Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Zan15]

I honestly don't think you understand what a 1% death rate means. You look at that number and brush it aside, regardless of the actual amount, because it's a one, and to you that means "hardly anything" - when in fact it's more than anything else, ever.

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1% death rate without hospitals being over run. @Trunksee What happens when you have a full bore run on hospitals nationwide how high does the 1% go because people can't get care?

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I'm not sure if anyone posted this between here or the actual coronavirus thread so I apologize if this is a repeat. So there was a 1905 US Supreme Court ruling (Jacobson v. Massachusetts) dealing with smallpox that pretty much gave the states the right to handle things the way they want in the wake of an epidemic. The person here was saying that he didn't have to take a small pox vaccination after the epidemic swept through Boston in 1901-1903. Supreme Court ruled as followed:

Harlan ruled that personal liberties could be suspended when "the safety of the general public may demand" for example during a smallpox outbreak. He compared the smallpox outbreak to the American Civil War (in which three out of nine Justices at the term served) by saying that a community has the right to protect itself from both disease and military invasion.[6]

It seems to be that we already have precedent set that the shelter-in-place rules are not unconstitutional and have already been covered by the Supreme Court.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...navirus-135826

Damn Obama appointed judges /s

[jonnysensible]

and so it begins

https://abcnews.go.com/US/colorado-m...ry?id=70491370

"A Colorado man arrested after federal agents allegedly discovered pipe bombs in his home had also been helping organize an armed protest demanding the state lift its coronavirus restrictions,"

here is some wider context

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1256374754035945474

Boogie boys being dumbasses as usual.

(think i posted the wrong link try again)

[cubby]

here is some wider context

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1256380791447146497

Boogie boys being dumbasses as usual.

Wow - people are just insane at times.

[Machismo]

here is some wider context

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1256380791447146497

Boogie boys being dumbasses as usual.

That flag hit the ground, they must hate America as much as Megan Rapinoe and Colin Kaepernick combined.

/s

[DarkTZeratul]

You know what's sad? I honestly doubt she understands the connotations that phrase has. Probably was told what it means sure. "Work makes us free? Well that's perfect to protest how we can't work right now!!'

Her sign uses the same "upside-down" B as the one on Auschwitz's gate. She understands perfectly well what it means.

[Tenlo]

Her sign uses the same "upside-down" B as the one on Auschwitz's gate. She understands perfectly well what it means.

Wow how did I miss that... Gj brain.

[alexw]

Wait...200k per day new cases? Per DAY?

Wouldn't that mean that we'd see a lot more deaths per day as well?

Exactly that.

30K cases per day = 2K dead per day. So 200K cases per day = around 14K dead per day 3 weeks later.

Now consider the outcome if the rate of growth in cases continues onwards after that date at the same rate. Three weeks later it'll be a million cases per day and not 200K per day. Exponential growth is a bitch.

[Edge-]

here is some wider context

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1256374754035945474

Boogie boys being dumbasses as usual.

(think i posted the wrong link try again)

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1256629484498771973

Holy crap, unironically sharing images of a guy shooting into a cop car.

And apparently the chucklefuck was bragging about building bombs to kill as many law enforcement in a "hard entry at 3am" as possible because they'd be clumped up.

Y'all Queda is a fucking clown show.

[Thepersona]

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1256629484498771973

Holy crap, unironically sharing images of a guy shooting into a cop car.

And apparently the chucklefuck was bragging about building bombs to kill as many law enforcement in a "hard entry at 3am" as possible because they'd be clumped up.

Y'all Queda is a fucking clown show.

Can the cops shoot down these fuckers? because they're terrorists, you know?

[Breccia]

It seems to be that we already have precedent set that the shelter-in-place rules are not unconstitutional and have already been covered by the Supreme Court.

I think the greatest irony would be SCOTUS reviewing this case by teleconference.

[Captain N]

Can the cops shoot down these fuckers? because they're terrorists, you know?

No no that's not how it works. His skin isn't dark enough to be considered a terrorist in modern America. That's a dedicated patriot -- if you want to see more of them go check out a comment section on a right wing site about the security officer in Flint that was shot in the head because he told the shooter's daughter she had to wear a mask inside a Dollar Tree. They believe gunning down that officer was legit in combating tyranny.

I think the greatest irony would be SCOTUS reviewing this case by teleconference.

Imagine the outcry if the modern majorly Conservative SCOTUS decided to uphold those rules. Do you think the rabid fan base would cry about legislating from the bench?

[Thepersona]

No no that's not how it works. His skin isn't dark enough to be considered a terrorist in modern America. That's a dedicated patriot -- if you want to see more of them go check out a comment section on a right wing site about the security officer in Flint that was shot in the head because he told the shooter's daughter she had to wear a mask inside a Dollar Tree. They believe gunning down that officer was legit in combating tyranny.

Interesting. So if i go and stand around with an AR-15 or AR-10 and full tacticool gear i wouldnt be shot on sight because my skin is actually quite fair? Or my spanish sounding surname would mean that i'm a dirty latino that should get killed on the spot?

[Captain N]

Interesting. So if i go and stand around with an AR-15 or AR-10 and full tacticool gear i wouldnt be shot on sight because my skin is actually quite fair? Or my spanish sounding surname would mean that i'm a dirty latino that should get killed on the spot?

I don't think that's a gamble you'd want to take.

[Edge-]

Interesting. So if i go and stand around with an AR-15 or AR-10 and full tacticool gear i wouldnt be shot on sight because my skin is actually quite fair? Or my spanish sounding surname would mean that i'm a dirty latino that should get killed on the spot?

Only if all your tacticool gear is mismatched, ill fitting, incomplete (no helmets, elbow pads, or knee pads, those don't look cool), and functionally useless in any actual combat situation.

Otherwise we're going to have to ask you to go home and return when you're in appropriate attire.

There was a great Twitter/Reddit thread of a dude taking apart the special forces cosplayers in Michigan that I'm trying to hunt down again, but it was so perfect at showing just how pathetic these types are.

[Thepersona]

Only if all your tacticool gear is mismatched, ill fitting, incomplete (no helmets, elbow pads, or knee pads, those don't look cool), and functionally useless in any actual combat situation.

Otherwise we're going to have to ask you to go home and return when you're in appropriate attire.

There was a great Twitter/Reddit thread of a dude taking apart the special forces cosplayers in Michigan that I'm trying to hunt down again, but it was so perfect at showing just how pathetic these types are.

Lol. For what i know, actual tactical gear is quite cumbersome, expensive, heavy and uncomfortable to use. I mean, my father was a paratrooper and he always rambled about the 20-30kg+ of gear that he had to use on a training mission. And there're people who actually LARP on a knock-off of said gear.

[Templar 331]

Only if all your tacticool gear is mismatched, ill fitting, incomplete (no helmets, elbow pads, or knee pads, those don't look cool), and functionally useless in any actual combat situation.

Otherwise we're going to have to ask you to go home and return when you're in appropriate attire.

There was a great Twitter/Reddit thread of a dude taking apart the special forces cosplayers in Michigan that I'm trying to hunt down again, but it was so perfect at showing just how pathetic these types are.

I got you.

https://imgur.com/gallery/JLfURra

[Edge-]

I got you.

https://imgur.com/gallery/JLfURra

Damnit yes! I spent like 20 minutes trying to find that after spotting it on Reddit yesterday and couldn't find shit. Thanks, dude!

[Captain N]

I got you.

https://imgur.com/gallery/JLfURra

That was awesome. Thank you for posting that.

Makes these guys seem like the poorly equipped Raiders you fight in Fallout.

[Thepersona]

That was awesome. Thank you for posting that.

Makes these guys seem like the poorly equipped Raiders you fight in Fallout.

God his is awful. This is like.. gun weebs or something like that.

Edit: What the fuck, they're armed in a government building, and they were not shot on the spot by armed security? and black people are routinely killed because their phones were mistaken for a handgun?

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU AMERICA?

[jonnysensible]

That was awesome. Thank you for posting that.

Makes these guys seem like the poorly equipped Raiders you fight in Fallout.

They are actually quite well equipt compared to other militias globally. Look at the average ISIS/Taiban/Jihadi fighters kit and what they have all been able to do. The gear they have is meant to intimidate and at worst face off against cops with worse gear.

That threads a bit of a dud because its comparing professional military forces to militias. Its thier lack of training and mindset that makes them a joke, a guy with bad gear and good training is still a deadly force.