1. #41301
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Remember when McConnell said its xenophobic to close the borders? Or when Trump wanted to add the new green deal to Covid relief, or when Graham wanted to roll funding for planned parenthood into the bill? Or the big one when Cuomo said he needed 30000 ventilators when now hes giving them to other states when he only received 4000. I mean revisionist history is fun and we all see 20/20 after the fact. How will the lock down people fair standing in a bread line?
    We arent talking about Cuomo or Dems playin politics (for what it's worth I agree unrelated shit should stay out of bills especially for aid)

    Trump fucked this up. If he stood up and was the leader we needed maybe we'd be in a position right now to be reopening. The literal only good thing he did was the stimulus and even that isnt enough. All his time is spent whining about how mean everyone is and hearing things he mentions because he wants some brownie points.

    Hell he indirectly killed a man. Yes it was the wrong drug and guys an idiot for eating fish cleaner but he only did it because trump was touting this medicine as a wonder cure

  2. #41302
    Just report the troll and put it on ignore, guys. It's constantly derailing the thread with conspiracy theory garbage and there's no reason to engage it. You're just prolonging the pointless argument.

    For something on-topic, we can talk about how Trump is leaving today for the first in a series of campaign trips (not what he's calling them, but that's what they are) where he'll be visiting various facilities--and forcing West Point graduates to endanger their health so that he can give them a speech they don't want to hear--to talk about what a great guy he is.

    This part's kind of enraging...

    But White House officials are also taking precautions to try to prevent Trump and Vice President Mike Pence from exposure to the virus. Honeywell workers who meet Trump on Tuesday — just like anyone else who comes in close proximity to the president and vice president — will be first required to take a rapid point-of-care test to determine if they're carrying the virus.
    Those tests are needed for the people on the front lines of the pandemic--the healthcare workers. There aren't enough to go around for them--which is why Pelosi AND McConnell both declined them last week--yet Trump's going to waste who knows how many because he desperately needs a publicity stunt? He's so confident that the US can completely reopen yet everyone getting within 20 feet of him is going to have to take a test.

  3. #41303
    I can't remember which thread the ad was linked in, and not sure if Trump's response has been noted yet, but nice to see Trump giving so much free air time to the Lincoln Project's latest ad:

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/t...se-coronavirus

    POTUS Has A Meltdown Over Anti-Trump GOP PAC Ad Blasting His Handling Of Outbreak

    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit

  4. #41304
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    I can't remember which thread the ad was linked in, and not sure if Trump's response has been noted yet, but nice to see Trump giving so much free air time to the Lincoln Project's latest ad:

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/t...se-coronavirus

    POTUS Has A Meltdown Over Anti-Trump GOP PAC Ad Blasting His Handling Of Outbreak

    I love that Trump is still shilling the, "What, this is totes the first time I ran for president!" line.

    How can Abe Lincoln be all smiles? I think his corpse has lost the ability to smile at this point.

    And man, Kelleyanne is just gonna stay in a job where her boss just publicly insults her and her husband on social media because why the fuck not.

    I guess we know what keeps the president of the United States up at night. It isn’t the Americans who are dying once every 45 seconds of covid-19.
    I mean, George Conway isn't wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
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    I noticed you didn't address my main point which was that this was abusing 2nd amendment rights for intimidation and there was no reason to bring guns.
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  6. #41306
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    We arent talking about Cuomo or Dems playin politics (for what it's worth I agree unrelated shit should stay out of bills especially for aid)

    Trump fucked this up. If he stood up and was the leader we needed maybe we'd be in a position right now to be reopening. The literal only good thing he did was the stimulus and even that isnt enough. All his time is spent whining about how mean everyone is and hearing things he mentions because he wants some brownie points.

    Hell he indirectly killed a man. Yes it was the wrong drug and guys an idiot for eating fish cleaner but he only did it because trump was touting this medicine as a wonder cure
    And yet the Dems are still worried that despite Trump's inept response, Biden won't beat him.

    What does that say about the Dems and their policies??

  7. #41307
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I love that Trump is still shilling the, "What, this is totes the first time I ran for president!" line.

    How can Abe Lincoln be all smiles? I think his corpse has lost the ability to smile at this point.

    And man, Kelleyanne is just gonna stay in a job where her boss just publicly insults her and her husband on social media because why the fuck not.



    I mean, George Conway isn't wrong though.
    Yeah Trump's narcissism--which has to be its own entity-- went right ahead and underscored their point. Conway should have linked another of theirs:
    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit

  8. #41308
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Yeah Trump's narcissism--which has to be its own entity-- went right ahead and underscored their point. Conway should have linked another of theirs:
    Yes, I agree, Trump bungled the shit out of this.

    Edit, my bad... saw a different name.
    Last edited by Machismo; 2020-05-05 at 04:29 PM.

  9. #41309
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    We arent talking about Cuomo or Dems playin politics (for what it's worth I agree unrelated shit should stay out of bills especially for aid)

    Trump fucked this up. If he stood up and was the leader we needed maybe we'd be in a position right now to be reopening. The literal only good thing he did was the stimulus and even that isnt enough. All his time is spent whining about how mean everyone is and hearing things he mentions because he wants some brownie points.

    Hell he indirectly killed a man. Yes it was the wrong drug and guys an idiot for eating fish cleaner but he only did it because trump was touting this medicine as a wonder cure
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.ya...133613382.html

    How odd is it that the woman donated thousands of dollars to a democrat science resistance fund, and the husband was a retired mechanical engineer. Why would they ingest 4x the lethal amount of fish tank cleaner? She has a domestic abuse record with her husband. Seems "fishy" to me. Why would they immediately "trust" Trump (he didn't say to ingest fish tank cleaner or anything if the sort). Maybe she found the perfect opportunity to off her husband. "Doesnt that chemical sound like what's in that fish tank cleaner? Perfect. I can even direct the blame on trump for this! Double kill!"
    Last edited by GreenJesus; 2020-05-05 at 04:29 PM.

  10. #41310
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Yes, I agree, Trump bungled the shit out of this.

    It's a shame you are voting for him.
    Pretty sure you didn't mean to direct that at me...
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  11. #41311
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    And yet the Dems are still worried that despite Trump's inept response, Biden won't beat him.

    What does that say about the Dems and their policies??
    What? Whose worried about Biden losing? Sure it's a possibility but whose freaking out about it?

    Or are you saying this is a huge conspiracy from the dems to hurt trump? Saying Trump fucked this up isn't fear or worry it's just a fact.

    Plus I don't think you really want to have a policy off because trump doesn't have any other than the wall™

  12. #41312
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    And yet the Dems are still worried that despite Trump's inept response, Biden won't beat him.

    What does that say about the Dems and their policies??
    Well, he does have a lot of supporters who will defend him, no matter what... like you.

    What does that say about you?

    I'd ask what it would take for you to stop supporting him, but I honestly don't know if there's anything that he could do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Pretty sure you didn't mean to direct that at me...
    My bad, I fixed it.

  13. #41313
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.ya...133613382.html

    How odd is it that the woman donated thousands of dollars to a democrat science resistance fund, and the husband was a retired mechanical engineer. Why would they ingest 4x the lethal amount of fish tank cleaner? She has a domestic abuse record with her husband. Seems "fishy" to me. Why would they immediately "trust" Trump (he didn't say to ingest fish tank cleaner or anything if the sort). Maybe she found the perfect opportunity to off her husband. "Doesnt that chemical sound like what's in that fish tank cleaner? Perfect. I can even direct the blame on trump for this! Double kill!"
    Well you figured it out. It wasnt a decision based on fear and someone who you think would have more information than you recommendations. It was clearly a ploy to off her husband especially since it would hurt trump!

    JFC why can't you guys say trump did an uh oh? He made a dumb remark and someone got hurt for listening to him. There's not some grand conspiracy to paint Trump in a bad light he literally does it himself. But no trump literally can do no wrong but God forbid a dem wears a tan fucking suit

  14. #41314
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    My bad, I fixed it.
    All good.

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  15. #41315
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    Well you figured it out. It wasnt a decision based on fear and someone who you think would have more information than you recommendations. It was clearly a ploy to off her husband especially since it would hurt trump!

    JFC why can't you guys say trump did an uh oh? He made a dumb remark and someone got hurt for listening to him. There's not some grand conspiracy to paint Trump in a bad light he literally does it himself. But no trump literally can do no wrong but God forbid a dem wears a tan fucking suit
    Quote me exactly what Trump said that was the "uh oh". Did he say go out and buy the chemical that happens to be inside that fish tank cleaner? No. He said the DRUG was showing good signs that it might help. Quote me EXACTLY where he said to use the chemical in fish tank cleaner. It's not Trump's fault 50 IQ fuckwads took treatment into their own hands with some homemade cocktail of fish tank cleaner and soda without the consent of their doctor and ingested 4x the lethal amount. There's plenty of other uh ohs to be mad about, but this isn't one. Honestly, if someone decides fish tank cleaner is something they should use to medicate themselves with they deserve to be removed from the gene pool.
    Last edited by GreenJesus; 2020-05-05 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    And yet the Dems are still worried that despite Trump's inept response, Biden won't beat him.

    What does that say about the Dems and their policies??
    The GOP and Trump are worried that Biden will beat him. And that they might lose the Senate. And not regain the House.

    What does that say about the GOP and their polities??

    It's an election. Everyone worries about losing.
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  17. #41317
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Quote me exactly what Trump said that was the "uh oh". Did he say go out and buy the chemical that happens to be inside that fish tank cleaner? No. He said the DRUG was showing good signs that it might help. You need to go to a doctor to get that drug anyway. It's not Trump's fault 50 IQ fuckwads took treatment into their own hands with some homemade cocktail of fish tank cleaner and soda without the consent of their doctor and ingested 4x the lethal amount.
    When you are the POTUS and you say "Drugitine is really" looking good for treating virus and Mr Man goes to the store and finds 'Drugamine" and takes it and dies POTUS is indirectly responsible. Doesn't matter the name is different he gave the idea to people who are probably panicking a bit. In that state rationale is gone

    Trump's not a doctor he has no business talking about any treatments. All he should have said is "we have a few things that may work. Here's Dr Boy with more info"
    But no trump wanted something to earn brownie points. I did the same shit as a kid when I was in trouble.. saying whatever to get people off my back.

    Hell how many people called to ask about injecting disinfectintant after trump suggested it? That alone means what he says carries clout

  18. #41318
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Quote me exactly what Trump said that was the "uh oh". Did he say go out and buy the chemical that happens to be inside that fish tank cleaner? No. He said the DRUG was showing good signs that it might help.
    "Won't someone rid me of this meddlesome priest!?"

    "What?! I didn't ask anyone to kill them!"

    Same argument. And also, why you don't see non-medical professionals advocating untested drugs to treat new diseases. This is some basic shit, dude. It's his fault, without him "musing" about it, there's no risk.

  19. #41319
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    When you are the POTUS and you say "Drugitine is really" looking good for treating virus and Mr Man goes to the store and finds 'Drugamine" and takes it and dies POTUS is indirectly responsible. Doesn't matter the name is different he gave the idea to people who are probably panicking a bit. In that state rationale is gone

    Trump's not a doctor he has no business talking about any treatments. All he should have said is "we have a few things that may work. Here's Dr Boy with more info"
    But no trump wanted something to earn brownie points. I did the same shit as a kid when I was in trouble.. saying whatever to get people off my back.

    Hell how many people called to ask about injecting disinfectintant after trump suggested it? That alone means what he says carries clout
    It's required to get a prescription from the doctor to get Hydroxychloroquine... you can't jsut go to the store and get it dude. The disinfectant comment is correctly the "uh oh" moment that Trump was completely just idiotically wrong about. Stop misdirecting when proven wrong about the fish tank cleaner people. I can disagree with Trump's fault for certain things and agree with fault for other things..

    Chloroquine phosphate is a chemical for aquarium use because it kills algae. It's commercially available for purchase at stores and online.

    The national health alert comes after a Phoenix-area man died and his wife was hospitalized after taking the chemical they believed could help protect against coronavirus.

    Last Sunday, the couple, both in their 60s, took the aquarium-use chemical, and within 30 minutes, the two experienced severe side effects, requiring admittance to a nearby hospital. The man died, and his wife remains under critical care, according to a hospital spokesperson.

    The product in their possession was in powder form inside a 2.2-lb. container and labeled "for Ornamental Fish Use Only."
    Last edited by GreenJesus; 2020-05-05 at 04:52 PM.

  20. #41320
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    When you are the POTUS and you say "Drugitine is really" looking good for treating virus and Mr Man goes to the store and finds 'Drugamine" and takes it and dies POTUS is indirectly responsible. Doesn't matter the name is different he gave the idea to people who are probably panicking a bit. In that state rationale is gone

    Trump's not a doctor he has no business talking about any treatments. All he should have said is "we have a few things that may work. Here's Dr Boy with more info"
    But no trump wanted something to earn brownie points. I did the same shit as a kid when I was in trouble.. saying whatever to get people off my back.

    Hell how many people called to ask about injecting disinfectintant after trump suggested it? That alone means what he says carries clout
    Orange man bad, he say things and people take out of context so his fault. Childish response to put blame where no blame should be put on other than the dumbass who ingested fish tank cleaner.

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