Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Masark]

And here i thought that the violence against the police was hallmark of left wing militias (at least that's what happening here).

In the USA, it's more like violence against the left wing is a hallmark of police.

[Felya]

And here i thought that the violence against the police was hallmark of left wing militias (at least that's what happening here).

Before the alt right welcomed outright fascism, the extremes of right wing in US was Timothy McVeigh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

His belief system and that of its right wing extreme, was centered on two events:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

Both were used as examples of government infringing on their rights. The solution was to kill cops and government officials. You can still see remnants of the people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

Before alt right began trolling the left with blue lives mater, the extreme right only used those colors for target practice.

I hope me getting on a shit ton of government watch lists, was worth this post. At least I mostly stopped my self from posting in alt right code. lol

[Thepersona]

Before the alt right welcomed outright fascism, the extremes of right wing in US was Timothy McVeigh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

His belief system and that of its right wing extreme, was centered on two events:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

Both were used as examples of government infringing on their rights. The solution was to kill cops and government officials. You can still see remnants of the people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

Before alt right began trolling the left with blue lives mater, the extreme right only used those colors for target practice.

I hope me getting on a shit ton of government watch lists, was worth this post. At least I mostly stopped my self from posting in alt right code. lol

Ogh yeah, i remember reading some of that. The biggest terrorist attack (before WTC claimed that infamous title) on the US, done by a right wing terrorist (i mean, muslim terrorists are also right wing terrorists but whatev) via a car bomb.

[Breccia]

Trump announces competent new Postmaster General.

While he's the first in the role in a generation who wasn't in the USPS before, he did run a logistics company. So, he might follow Trump and try to murder the USPS, but at least he's not a horse breeder.

- - - Updated - - -

Trump repeats the lies he's been telling to deflect from his abysmal failure with the outbreak:
1) He inherited a broken test
2) He had no medical supplies to work with.

We've discussed these before. Incidentally, even if both were true, Trump's famous "it's one person coming from China, it's going to be fine" quote was 3 years nearly to the day into his tenure.

But just to drive the point home, NPR had a June 2016 tour of the federal stockpile. It was not empty.

This is, of course, in addition to Trump diving away literal tons of medical supplies to China (I'm guessing he regrets that, as well he should, America First right?) and those people in the CDC he fired.

Leaders make results. Losers make excuses.

[Zan15]

Trump announces competent new Postmaster General.

While he's the first in the role in a generation who wasn't in the USPS before, he did run a logistics company. So, he might follow Trump and try to murder the USPS, but at least he's not a horse breeder.

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well to be fair he was voted in by the board in full which represent members placed there by the past 4 administrations so i don't think it will be a major issue. Also he is limited in the things he can even change without congressional approval so there won't be any major changes anytime soon, congress has proved this over the last dozen years to very reasonable changes.

[Powerogue]

https://trumpdeathclock.com/

We not have a death counter, with estimates for how many of the deaths can be traced back to Trumps inaction on the virus. This is based off reporting of lots of early pushback from team Trump on taking action, and more recent reporting on epidemiologists estimating that around 60% of deaths could have been avoided if action was taken early.

It's currently at 43,861

I read on imgur earlier a description from a nurse of the situation they were dealing with at work every day, with particular focus on one patient burned into their mind with the rules ultimately being bent to allow the family to see them one last time. Did everything they could. https://imgur.com/gallery/dPPmiQA

In the time it takes to read that account, that death clock went up by another 10.

It's currently at 44,129.

[Benggaul]

So...researching this today was a bummer.

74,799 deaths total, 2,528 for the 6th of May (GMT). This MAY be more of a correction from the weekend since more than 700 of them are from New York, but this is the first time we've hit 2,500 again since April 21st (going by the worldometers site and the GMT day, for clarification). New cases stands at 25,459, which I may just stop mentioning since it's almost always in the same range. I suspect that's still because of the limited testing (read: not enough fucking testing).

Looking at the charts for several states (of those that are available), none of them are showing an overall decline in new cases or deaths the past week. Florida is going back up. Texas is going up. California is going up. I did not want to believe those predictions of us heading towards 3k per day dead, but if it keeps going at this rate, it's feasible.

Don't really know what else to say about this one. It's tough.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

This MAY be more of a correction from the weekend since more than 700 of them are from New York.

It almost doesn't matter. The overall average would still be the same...and it's not dropping under 2,000 like I was hoping it was.

Fuck.

[Xyonai]

I read on imgur earlier a description from a nurse of the situation they were dealing with at work every day, with particular focus on one patient burned into their mind with the rules ultimately being bent to allow the family to see them one last time. Did everything they could. https://imgur.com/gallery/dPPmiQA

In the time it takes to read that account, that death clock went up by another 10.

It's currently at 44,129.

that whole gallery is fucking heart wrenching

[Benggaul]

It almost doesn't matter. The overall average would still be the same...and it's not dropping under 2,000 like I was hoping it was.

Fuck.

If we don't start getting days under 1000 we WILL hit 100k before the end of the month.

[PhaelixWW]

If we don't start getting days under 1000 we WILL hit 100k before the end of the month.

There are 25 days left in the month, we're at 75k already, and today was over 2000, still, regardless of any account-settling in New York...

...we'd have to average under 1k a day in order to stay below 100k by the end of May...

...and states are starting to reopen; there's zero chance we don't hit 100k in May.

[Captain N]

There are 25 days left in the month, we're at 75k already, and today was over 2000, still, regardless of any account-settling in New York...

...we'd have to average under 1k a day in order to stay below 100k by the end of May...

...and states are starting to reopen; there's zero chance we don't hit 100k in May.

And depending on where these deaths are at might very well force areas opening back into shelter-at-home states.

Which has its own problems considering we have loons with pipe bombs and guns getting all worked up already.

[Benggaul]

There are 25 days left in the month, we're at 75k already, and today was over 2000, still, regardless of any account-settling in New York...

...we'd have to average under 1k a day in order to stay below 100k by the end of May...

...and states are starting to reopen; there's zero chance we don't hit 100k in May.

Yes, I'm aware how math works. I just assumed I didn't need to spell it out completely. I also did not WANT to because honestly I'd like to not kill off EVERY last scrap of hope that reason can prevail.

[Zaydin]

Yes, I'm aware how math works. I just assumed I didn't need to spell it out completely. I also did not WANT to because honestly I'd like to not kill off EVERY last scrap of hope that reason can prevail.

Reason won't prevail because the American right-wing have decided that killing hundreds of thousands of Americans is an acceptable price in their desperation to save Trumps failed presidency and reelection bid.

[Dontrike]

No introduction necessary.



And throwing this in:

Our Ruling

I know it's not the point, but hearing him say "empty nothing" gives me a sinus infection.

[Acidbaron]

I would say yes. it doesn't take that long for infractions points to go away and be able to post again.

It becomes longer the more you have been banned, first a week or two than a month, so can easily be 2 months or more.

[Paranoid Android]

Well it was National Nurse Day. The day we recognize the work of nurses, but even more during this crisis.

Trump? Not so much.

At a White House ceremony marking #NationalNursesDay, President Trump contradicted a nurse who said the availability of PPE has been 'sporadic'

So the nurse was saying that PPE was needed and the struggle they were going thru. Trump with no sympathy for the nurses shoots her down and immediately says the supply line is great and of course: It was Obama's Fault.

[Fuiking]

Well it was National Nurse Day. The day we recognize the work of nurses, but even more during this crisis.

Trump? Not so much.

At a White House ceremony marking #NationalNursesDay, President Trump contradicted a nurse who said the availability of PPE has been 'sporadic'

So the nurse was saying that PPE was needed and the struggle they were going thru. Trump with no sympathy for the nurses shoots her down and immediately says the supply line is great and of course: It was Obama's Fault.

This man makes me feel sick in my stomach. But atleast he showed his true colours fully now. (Not that I think Trumpkins would care... I'm pretty sure they wont care. Everything' is fake news, or bad news anyway)

[Kiri]

Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I only recently saw those attempts of Trump's to brand those he wants to work as "warriors", and I was wondering if he strictly only uses that word. Can anyone confirm or deny that?
Just asking because it struck me as odd that I don't really hear the word "soldiers" much, only "war" and "warriors". And that got me thinking whether or not that is deliberate. The US takes care of its soldiers, after all - treat their injuries sustained while on duty, educate them, pay them, honour them, etc. But warriors? No such connotations. A warrior that gets sick and stops working because of that can just be seen as as someone who was too weak to fight on and ignored, which somehow sounds like what this admin might be going for. Spur/force people into action without having to actually protect them in any way.

[Evielution93]

Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I only recently saw those attempts of Trump's to brand those he wants to work as "warriors", and I was wondering if he strictly only uses that word. Can anyone confirm or deny that?
Just asking because it struck me as odd that I don't really hear the word "soldiers" much, only "war" and "warriors". And that got me thinking whether or not that is deliberate. The US takes care of its soldiers, after all - treat their injuries sustained while on duty, educate them, pay them, honour them, etc. But warriors? No such connotations. A warrior that gets sick and stops working because of that can just be seen as as someone who was too weak to fight on and ignored, which somehow sounds like what this admin might be going for. Spur/force people into action without having to actually protect them in any way.

It's the same idea of using the word "Hero" for people being forced to work against their will as 'essential workers', putting them at risk of getting sick and, in turn, getting their families sick.