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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    So that is a no.

    1) It isn't a secret meeting if Kerry talks about it on a Radio Show
    2) It wasn't a meeting at all, Kerry said he saw him at international events and talked to him, 3 or 4 times since he left office. He never claimed he ever scheduled a meeting with him, and he explicitly denied coaching him on Trump.


    So that is no evidence. You took a sentence out of context, and inserted a conspiracy theory. I am sure Barr will be happy to investigate it, but I highly doubt they are going to find anything. Seeing a person from Iran and saying hello is not illegal.
    The meetings were not done openly at the time they met...so they were secret at the time.

    And yes there were meetings. Your desperate attempt to twist the facts of the matter is quite disturbing....shame on you.

    John Kerry engaging in shadow diplomacy to salvage Iran deal: The Boston Globe
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/05/polit...eal/index.html
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    The use of laws and customs and politics as a means to control others while not applying to the power group.


    Barr ushering in a new wave of lawlessness with fascistic characteristics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    The meetings were not done openly at the time they met...so they were secret at the time.

    And yes there were meetings. Your desperate attempt to twist the facts of the matter is quite disturbing....shame on you.

    John Kerry engaging in shadow diplomacy to salvage Iran deal: The Boston Globe
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/05/polit...eal/index.html
    Have you finally kicked the "Hillary for prison" dead horse so many times and come up with nothing that you're now going back to John Kerry?

    I look forward to your future rantings and ravings about how the evil Democrat conspiracy is plotting to undermine Trump's America as evidenced by Dukakis being at the same conference as some Russian oligarch's cousin's former roomate.
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    Kaleredar is right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    The meetings were not done openly at the time they met...so they were secret at the time.

    And yes there were meetings. Your desperate attempt to twist the facts of the matter is quite disturbing....shame on you.

    John Kerry engaging in shadow diplomacy to salvage Iran deal: The Boston Globe
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/05/polit...eal/index.html
    Date on the Boston Globe article: May 4, 2018

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...CUL/story.html

    Date the United States withdrew from the JCPOA, at which point further discussions on the topic would be a violation of the Logan Act: May 8, 2018

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...ble-iran-deal/

    So by your own link, it is not a violation of the Logan Act. Thanks, dude.

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    Ok i just remembered this, remember when trump wrote a NYT op ed saying the now exonerated brooklyn 5 should have been executed?
    he doubled down on that last year https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/n...ive-trump.html
    because its pay walled


    President Trump said on Tuesday that he would not apologize for his harsh comments in 1989 about the Central Park Five, the five black and Latino men who as teenagers were wrongly convicted of the brutal rape of a jogger in New York City.

    Mr. Trump was asked about newspaper advertisements he bought back then calling for New York State to adopt the death penalty after the attack. (The ads never explicitly called for the death penalty for the five defendants.)

    “You have people on both sides of that,” he said at the White House. “They admitted their guilt.”


    So the idea of republicans suddenly caring about perjury traps is funny, and i know its against the rules to point out the obvious difference between mike flyn and the brooklyn 5..soo u guys know..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    But when did he meet with Zarif? That's your kryptonite right now, you need to establish that those meetings were after the US pulled out of the JCPOA first, and from there you'd need to learn what his discussions were about.
    They met while the Trump administration was in the midst of attempting to renegotiate the nuclear deal. But I'm sure Kerry didn't discuss that subject with them at all...and just wanted to say hello and talk about grandchildren, golf, and their respective travels. Yeah...that's it...that's the ticket!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    They met while the Trump administration was in the midst of attempting to renegotiate the nuclear deal. But I'm sure Kerry didn't discuss that subject with them at all...and just wanted to say hello and talk about grandchildren, golf, and their respective travels. Yeah...that's it...that's the ticket!
    You mean like the Trump Tower meeting was only about adoptions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Date on the Boston Globe article: May 4, 2018

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...CUL/story.html

    Date the United States withdrew from the JCPOA, at which point further discussions on the topic would be a violation of the Logan Act: May 8, 2018

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...ble-iran-deal/

    So by your own link, it is not a violation of the Logan Act. Thanks, dude.
    He actively undermined the current administration's foreign policy...if it wasn't a technical violation of the Logan Act, it was treason imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    He actively undermined the current administration's foreign policy...if it wasn't a technical violation of the Logan Act, it was treason.
    Interesting logic.

    What's next?: "Biden is actively undermining the current administration's reelection policy. That's treason!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    He actively undermined the current administration's foreign policy...if it wasn't a technical violation of the Logan Act, it was treason.
    The current administration has waved all rights to call out acts of treason. They have displayed a complete disregard for all the principles the US stands for, in multiple occasions. At this point, committing treason against the administration is holding up the principled the US was founded on, and a service towards the global community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    He actively undermined the current administration's foreign policy...if it wasn't a technical violation of the Logan Act, it was treason.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...e-negotiations

    GOP senators send letter to Iran in attempt to undermine nuclear deal
    I'm sorry, could you say that again?

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    Its absurd how easily derailed you all are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    How about obstruction?
    You’re not actually serious are you?

    The entire investigation was a hoax. It was known, very early on and by high up people, that there was no collusion. Nothing.

    So, I ask you, what about that obstruction?

    Man wins presidency, surprisingly because everyone said he was losing. He starts gathering what team he has and this collusion thing is thrown around. Flynn is set up and railroaded. Mind you, he’s really the only one that had real experience with intelligence matters. He’s fired on false charges.

    Others start avoiding the administration like the plague. At this point Trump lashes out about a hoax investigation and threatens to cancel it because he didn’t collude with Russia.

    Yeah, good luck prosecuting that. Which is exactly why Mueller did nothing but left vague assertions hanging over the failed investigation.

    This entire thing is falling apart. Grenell is releasing more Russia documents tomorrow. He’s in Clappers old position.

    Schiff is done. He’s in complete panic mode.
    His entire, fraudulent scheme has fallen apart. Trump was supposed to be gone by now, and none of this was supposed to see the light of day.

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    who changed the thread name lol i only just noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspark View Post
    I'm calling it. He is going to TRY to order air strikes on US cities. There will be some "justification" for it like "people that look Chinese or Mexican or were just a little too brown were seen there". Sure, according to the law he can't do that. But the law doesn't matter. The ONLY thing will stop him is if the military itself refuses the orders. I'd like to think that will happen. But I wouldn't bet money on it.
    Are you okay? Because this is really scary stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    He actively undermined the current administration's foreign policy...if it wasn't a technical violation of the Logan Act, it was treason imo.
    You were at those meetings? You know specifically what was discussed?

    Did you get selfies with anyone?

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    This new title ... Trump "Focused Discussion" .. lol

    This is like when a NYT headline calls one of Trump's blatant lies, a "misunderstanding" or just a an "exaggeration".

    When 100,000 are dead, can we call it a shitshow again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...e-negotiations



    I'm sorry, could you say that again?
    holy shit I forgot about that, lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    John Kerry engaging in
    *LOUD ANNOYING BUZZER*

    Anyone in the rabid fanbase, which now openly supports Flynn not being charged, cannot point at what Kerry did and say "this is bad".

    Your argument is invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    holy shit I forgot about that, lmao.
    Kerry is also a Purple Heart recipient. Yet, they already ran a lying campaign against him:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftboating

    This is who these people are calling a traitor, to defend captain bone spurs.
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