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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    People are just not showing up to the testing sites.
    BS, also the Testing will in fact ease your Reopening.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Its not for infected but all residents. My point is the longer we stay closed the more power the government is going to try to grab. This is why i agree with Trump that we need to reopen asap.
    It is Clearly not a Government Power Grab, the APP is also Voluntary, there is nothing the app Won't Share that you wouldn't want, you also have the Choice to Turn Location Tracing On or Off.
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    My point is the longer we stay closed the more power the government is going to try to grab. This is why i agree with Trump that we need to reopen asap.
    Trump’s dismantling of watch dog groups, is an actual power grab. You don’t think it is, but having Trump hand out billions, without oversight... is a power grab.

    If Trump is smart enough to not pay taxes, do you think he is smart enough to hand out billions to him self and his friends? Since watchdog groups aimed to prevent such things, are being dismantled by Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    It is Clearly not a Government Power Grab, the APP is also Voluntary, there is nothing the app Won't Share that you wouldn't want, you also have the Choice to Turn Location Tracing On or Off.
    Let me just, not ironically, go to google and search for ‘issues with tracking’. Okay, click this one, privacy cookies bla bla, accept... next page, cookies bla bla... accept... next page.........

    Edit: Now that I think about it, I am going to go on Facebook and post how these websites are annoying with their cookies. Oh and I must update Facebook with my house pictures and pictures of my new cat Tabby... It’s so hard being out of the house 9 to 6, I just want to play with him!!! (it’s a secret, but my password is Tabby2020, because it’s his birthday! No one will guess!!) Tide pods!!! Delicious...
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  3. #43023
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    BS, also the Testing will in fact ease your Reopening.





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    It is Clearly not a Government Power Grab, the APP is also Voluntary, there is nothing the app Won't Share that you wouldn't want, you also have the Choice to Turn Location Tracing On or Off.
    Sadly i listen to her daily briefings. She daily states we can test more if people show up. She wants to be at 10000 daily tests by the end of summer. We can handle 3500 a day currently yet we are testing less than 3k with a 5 to 8% daily positive rate this week. Almost all coming from the inner cities. They are at a 20% positive clip. Its voluntary until she says for us to open more we need more people to download the app. This is exactly what she did yesterday by saying if we want schools to open she needs everyone to use the app and activate tracing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Its voluntary until she says for us to open more we need more people to download the app. This is exactly what she did yesterday by saying if we want schools to open she needs everyone to use the app and activate tracing.
    It's still Voluntary.
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Trump’s dismantling of watch dog groups, is an actual power grab. You don’t think it is, but having Trump hand out billions, without oversight... is a power grab.

    If Trump is smart enough to not pay taxes, do you think he is smart enough to hand out billions to him self and his friends? Since watchdog groups aimed to prevent such things, are being dismantled by Trump.

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    Let me just, not ironically, go to google and search for ‘issues with tracking’. Okay, click this one, privacy cookies bla bla, accept... next page, cookies bla bla... accept... next page.........

    Edit: Now that I think about it, I am going to go on Facebook and post how these websites are annoying with their cookies. Oh and I must update Facebook with my house pictures and pictures of my new cat Tabby... It’s so hard being out of the house 9 to 6, I just want to play with him!!! (it’s a secret, but my password is Tabby2020, because it’s his birthday! No one will guess!!) Tide pods!!! Delicious...
    Too bad the boomers had to make a tacky generic version called Clorox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Its voluntary until she says for us to open more we need more people to download the app. This is exactly what she did yesterday by saying if we want schools to open she needs everyone to use the app and activate tracing.
    That would still be voluntary... While Trump dismantling watch dog groups, aimed at reporting where billions are going from relief funds, is already happening. You need to explain why Trump calling his use of loopholes to pay no taxes, doesn’t at least imply Trump will fund his and related business, because without watchdog groups monitoring it... creates a loophole for Trump to benefit him self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Too bad the boomers had to make a tacky generic version called Clorox.
    Gen X here... my job is to sarcastically point and laugh...

    Edit: The only reason I have that tide pods comment, is because I thought /s would be tacky, but people might still believe my password is Tabby2020. It was my attempt at doing /s... better...
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  7. #43027
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I'm not even sure what to add to these Trump tweets, honestly. He's literally trying to make mail-in ballots synonymous with "voter fraud," despite the fact he has literally no basis for this. The only thing he can mention about it is a flat out lie.

    Pretty much setting your election up for rampant calls of "FAKE NEWS" if he doesn't win.

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    On a different not, this:
    Although his tweets are a bit crass I am ok with the message behind the first two. By sending them out now way before we see the extent of damage these shut downs will cause is a hope that while numbers are still high for the acceptance of these lock downs is a bit early. We are 6 months away there was no reason to send these out now. Also what if people had moved and not updated their address? Did all these people request mail in ballots or were they just sent out? Mail in ballots are very easily a way for voter fraud by the way. They should be picked up in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Mail in ballots are very easily a way for voter fraud by the way. They should be picked up in person.
    That is a Lie.
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Although his tweets are a bit crass I am ok with the message behind the first two. By sending them out now way before we see the extent of damage these shut downs will cause is a hope that while numbers are still high for the acceptance of these lock downs is a bit early. We are 6 months away there was no reason to send these out now. Also what if people had moved and not updated their address? Did all these people request mail in ballots or were they just sent out? Mail in ballots are very easily a way for voter fraud by the way. They should be picked up in person.
    Did you miss the primaries part?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Mail in ballots are very easily a way for voter fraud by the way. They should be picked up in person.
    How so?

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    That is a Lie.
    I’m from WA... my gf had her mail in ballot rejected. I want to see what he is talking about, before explaining what actually happened. I’ve posted it before anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Did you miss the primaries part?



    How so?

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    I’m from WA... my gf had her mail in ballot rejected. I want to see what he is talking about, before explaining what actually happened. I’ve posted it before anyway...
    Yea I did miss the primaries part so my bad there. Mail in ballots are a very iffy subject with me. If you at least request them its fine but it seems as though they just sent them out which i am not ok with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Yea I did miss the primaries part so my bad there. Mail in ballots are a very iffy subject with me. If you at least request them its fine but it seems as though they just sent them out which i am not ok with.
    Why aren't you ok with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Why aren't you ok with them?
    The main problem I can see, is this ... if a marriage has a "dominant" partner, I could totally see that partner just grabbing both ballots and filling them out themselves and sending them in (possibly without the other partner even knowing they showed up). At least when you vote in person, your crazy trump loving partner can't force you to vote trump (and you can even claim you did, in case you are worried they might beat you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Although his tweets are a bit crass I am ok with the message behind the first two. By sending them out now way before we see the extent of damage these shut downs will cause is a hope that while numbers are still high for the acceptance of these lock downs is a bit early. We are 6 months away there was no reason to send these out now. Also what if people had moved and not updated their address? Did all these people request mail in ballots or were they just sent out? Mail in ballots are very easily a way for voter fraud by the way. They should be picked up in person.
    You are such a good little soldier. Repeating the talking points without thinking.

    But please, tell me more about how much you are concerned about people's rights while you support voter suppression.

    Please, Mr. Trump supporter, please rant more about government power grabs.

    I'd like to see just how much of your soul you are willing to sacrifice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    If you at least request them its fine but it seems as though they just sent them out which i am not ok with.
    They send them out based on your voter registration. Voter registration is the request...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Why aren't you ok with them?
    To be as simple in explaining as i can, there is truly no oversight to them. Any one who recieves it in the mail could just mail ot back in. If they end up in a mailbox anyone could send it back in. At least with in person fraud you need to know info about someone and have the balls to actually do it. Mailing something in is just to easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    They send them out based on your voter registration. Voter registration is the request...
    Right and if you moved and forgot to change your address with the voting board or if someone had past away and the information was not updated who ever received it could just mail it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    To be as simple in explaining as i can, there is truly no oversight to them. Any one who recieves it in the mail could just mail ot back in. If they end up in a mailbox anyone could send it back in. At least with in person fraud you need to know info about someone and have the balls to actually do it. Mailing something in is just to easy
    None of this is true... My gf’s ballot was sent back, because they didn’t think the signature matched registration. Each ballot is unique to the individual voter. You are making shit up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Right and if you moved and forgot to change your address with the voting board or if someone had past away and the information was not updated who ever received it could just mail it in.
    They also have to match your signature and assume the risk of you contacting authorities about not receiving your ballot, since they would literally know where the law breaker lives.
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    Remember, this is how Trump and his fans see him...
    Ugh. I'd know the handiwork of that hack even if he didn't sign it.

  18. #43038
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    You are such a good little soldier. Repeating the talking points without thinking.

    But please, tell me more about how much you are concerned about people's rights while you support voter suppression.

    Please, Mr. Trump supporter, please rant more about government power grabs.

    I'd like to see just how much of your soul you are willing to sacrifice.
    He has said he would literally vote for Satan himself, so that is exactly where he stands. Rape won't stop him. Sexual assault won't stop him. Murder will not stop him.

    When people say that Trump could literally rape a child on television, and Trumpsters would still support him... it's true.
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  19. #43039
    I think at this point into his presidency most people can agree he is a shit President, this is not even a bias or anti-Trump thing, he is just a poor leader in every sense of the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    The main problem I can see, is this ... if a marriage has a "dominant" partner, I could totally see that partner just grabbing both ballots and filling them out themselves and sending them in (possibly without the other partner even knowing they showed up). At least when you vote in person, your crazy trump loving partner can't force you to vote trump (and you can even claim you did, in case you are worried they might beat you).
    In which case the victim in this domestic abuse has six months to get out of that relationship somehow and request a new absentee ballot.
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