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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s actually two of the voting by mail posts and both link here:
    https://twitter.com/i/events/1265330601034256384
    Also look, I'm sorry but the extent to which Twitter "fact checking" is effective can be summed up as follows:

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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Also look, I'm sorry but the extent to which Twitter "fact checking" is effective can be summed up as follows:

    Yep, it's truly perfect. Twitter gets to say they've "addressed" the problem while doing nothing at all. That's a win/win right there, plus tons of additional free PR every time they pointlessly flag one of these tweets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Also look, I'm sorry but the extent to which Twitter "fact checking" is effective can be summed up as follows:
    It’s worse, because the link is to a twitter page, showing more tweets. Their solution to Trump misinformation, is to keep you on twitter longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s worse, because the link is to a twitter page, showing more tweets. Their solution to Trump misinformation, is to keep you on twitter longer.
    I wonder if Jack ever wonders why his platform hosts increasing numbers of guillotine.gif.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Mhm. Never underestimate the lengths to which corporate America will self-sabotage.

    Just look at Tumblr.
    Lol, good point. Twitter dying wouldn't be the worst thing - although someone else with $$$ in their eyes will just take over.

    Plus - Twitter might be able to handle a wrongful death suit by a major celebrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Lol, good point. Twitter dying wouldn't be the worst thing - although someone else with $$$ in their eyes will just take over.

    Plus - Twitter might be able to handle a wrongful death suit by a major celebrity.
    Ehhh - questionable regarding the extent to which there will be a replacement.

    For those interested in Internet History, compare and contrast the aftermath of the fall of Myspace versus the fall of Tumblr. The former happened, as said, during an internet environment where startups were more viable and the field wasn't choked by megagiants - when Tumblr died, sure Twitter caught some of the traffic but for the most part a lot of that community just up and died.

    Part of the reason is the fig leaf on a lot of these internet services has been pulled off vis a vis investors starting to realise that a free service can't be monetized exponentially. Well, it can, but the numbers are going to be fake as shit. (Woop, I just described most of the stock market. *sips tea*)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    I admit I may be ignorant about the subject, but is Twitter even allowed to take down Trump's Tweets? Aren't they protected because of his office--isn't that the reason him deleting his own Tweets is technically illegal?

    I could have sworn I read somewhere that his Tweeting was now considered "policy" and therefore must be kept intact and archived or something along those lines, but honestly there's been so much bullshit coming out of this administration it's hard to keep track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I admit I may be ignorant about the subject, but is Twitter even allowed to take down Trump's Tweets? Aren't they protected because of his office--isn't that the reason him deleting his own Tweets is technically illegal?

    I could have sworn I read somewhere that his Tweeting was now considered "policy" and therefore must be kept intact and archived or something along those lines, but honestly there's been so much bullshit coming out of this administration it's hard to keep track.
    People don't usually like engaging with this line of discussion because it raises serious questions about the ethics of private ownership of the media.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I admit I may be ignorant about the subject, but is Twitter even allowed to take down Trump's Tweets? Aren't they protected because of his office--isn't that the reason him deleting his own Tweets is technically illegal?

    I could have sworn I read somewhere that his Tweeting was now considered "policy" and therefore must be kept intact and archived or something along those lines, but honestly there's been so much bullshit coming out of this administration it's hard to keep track.
    No, actually it's Trump who isn't allowed to take down his tweets. Everything the President writes is automatically a piece of the official national record. Deleting them is basically destruction of federal property.
    "Winning? Is that what you think it’s about? I’m not trying to win. I’m not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because I want to blame someone. It’s not because it’s fun. God knows it’s not because it’s easy. It’s not even because it works because it hardly ever does.. I DO WHAT I DO BECAUSE IT’S RIGHT! Because it’s decent! And above all, it’s kind! It’s just that.. Just kind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    No, actually it's Trump who isn't allowed to take down his tweets. Everything the President writes is automatically a piece of the official national record. Deleting them is basically destruction of federal property.
    That's what I meant. Sorry, just got home from work and I'm exhausted. Not all the synapses are firing.

    So Twitter wouldn't actually get in any legal trouble for taking his shit down, then? I thought that his not being allowed to delete them also extended to other people/entities doing so in his stead.

    Granted, he seems to be entering an "experimenting with various drugs" phase, so maybe he'll do us all a favor and take himself out soon enough.

    EDIT: That whole twitter thread of his press conference...good fucking god he needs to be taken out/down immediately. Not even his followers could call him a "stable genius" with a straight face anymore.
    Last edited by Benggaul; 2020-05-26 at 11:22 PM.

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    Trump: I don’t use insulin. Should I be? Huh? I never thought about it. https://t.co/rGv3tLru0d
    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1265...600424448?s=19

    The dumbest person ever!

    Oh btw this at a Rose Garden presser on insulin.

    Truly spectacular spin/save attempt by the Surgeon General: He tells Trump that bodies like theirs make insulin -- "so yes, we do utilize insulin, but we make it ourselves" -- but people with diabetes need exogenous insulin.
    https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/12...383875073?s=19

    Just the dumbest person ever!
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    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1265...600424448?s=19

    The dumbest person ever!

    Oh btw this at a Rose Garden presser on insulin.
    Why is he asking this to reporters?

    Scratch that, that's a stupid question. Everything about this is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Why is he asking this to reporters?

    Scratch that, that's a stupid question. Everything about this is stupid.
    Mommy, the Emperor has no grey matter.

    This is the worst fucking timeline.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    They at least could ban his idiot kid on twitter for the bullshit he does. Nobody would give a fuck if that moron was banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    They at least could ban his idiot kid on twitter for the bullshit he does. Nobody would give a fuck if that moron was banned.
    There's really no financial incentive for twitter to ban Trump or his family, think about it would anyone be talking about twitter if it wasn't for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    There's really no financial incentive for twitter to ban Trump or his family, think about it would anyone be talking about twitter if it wasn't for them?
    Yeah I do. There is more stuff on twitter then just the Trumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Yeah I do. There is more stuff on twitter then just the Trumps.
    How many of that stuff gets them 24/7 international attention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    How many of that stuff gets them 24/7 international attention?
    Maybe I don't understand your argument, you think trump and his family is the main thing making twitter money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    How many of that stuff gets them 24/7 international attention?
    Recently? A police officer suffocating a suspect to death.

    There's plenty of awful to keep the morbidly obese curious without the Trumps. And cat memes for those who aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Recently? A police officer suffocating a suspect to death.

    There's plenty of awful to keep the morbidly obese curious without the Trumps. And cat memes for those who aren't.
    And even without the Trumps, they do so much bullshit that people would still tweet about them all the time.

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