Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

Fortunately, Trump is far too dense to remember the details of such things that would actually be harmful to blurt out.

We just have to hope that they take his phone away next time there's a briefing so he doesn't casually "declassify" that information, which he is legally allowed to do.

I'm still reeling from when he just casually dropped detailed photo's from "super duper secret" spy satellites.

[zorkuus]

The "funny" part? He apparently made the claim there--in one of the States that's currently experiencing explosive growth of COVID-19--that "[the border wall] stopped COVID, it stopped everything".

That's pretty impressive. A couple of mile long fence (with holes in it) stopped a virus.

[Templar 331]

Literally everything about this quote is hilariously stupid.

I have never wanted so badly a Skroe post that goes into detail how wrong Trump is about military tech as I do now.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1275567178901860352

I guess calling it the "kung flu" went over so well in Tulsa he tried it again.

It seems to go over even better now, with raucous cheers and applause.

At least he's working to dispel any notions that he doesn't rely heavily on racist xenophobes to prop up his political life.

[Masark]

A parachute won't work from a tower. It just makes you fall slightly longer.

Parachutes work fine from towers. Though whether they would work with his weight is a different question.

17x faster than the fastest missile? Some casual googling is saying that the "fastest" missile right now, the "Brahmos", travels at about Mach 3, or 2,302 miles per hour.

If we believe this, this new "hydrosonic" missile would travel at around 39,134 miles per hour, or mach 51 which...there doesn't appear to be anything that goes that fast.

New Horizons is close. It's zipping along at about 36,000 miles per hour or a bit more than mach 47.

[Thekri]

I have never wanted so badly a Skroe post that goes into detail how wrong Trump is about military tech as I do now.

I mean I could provide it, but ultimately it is pointless. The story itself is simple, Trump got briefed on US Hypersonic Weapon development, understood exactly none of it, and started blabbering on about stuff he didn't understand and shouldn't be talking about.

Obviously we don't have "Hydrosonic" Missiles, that is a technique for growing plants Hydroponically, not a weapon system. We do not have missiles that go Mach 51. That isn't in the realm of established physics.

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Parachutes work fine from towers. Though whether they would work with his weight is a different question.



New Horizons is close. It's zipping along at about 36,000 miles per hour or a bit more than mach 47.

I have jumped from towers with a Parachute, on Fort Benning they have towers designed for it.

New Horizons is cheating by not being in an atmosphere, and accelerating for several years.

[Zaydin]

So Trump apparently has no idea what the 19 in COVID-19 stands for. He's using the 'some people' bullshit again, meaning he has no idea.

How many times has it been explained that the 19 stands for 2019, the year the virus was discovered?

[Jotaux]

I was legitimately confused and thought he was talking about torpedoes or something lol.

[s_bushido]

Seems like he's got a full house, but it's not a very big one.

I like how one of the few non-white people in there is also one of the few with the sense to be wearing a mask...

[rayvio]

Seems like he's got a full house, but it's not a very big one.

so now he's got his very own suicide cult
instead of the blind leading the blind it's the stupid leading the stupid.

[Benggaul]

The US hit 36k new cases for the first time since May 1st. Total deaths were 863, which is higher than it was the previous Tuesday.

Arizona had it's highest ever daily total of new cases at nearly 3.6k. Good job, vanity wall!

Fuck Florida.

Stay safe, folks.

[Zaydin]

The US hit 36k new cases for the first time since May 1st. Total deaths were 863, which is higher than it was the previous Tuesday.

Arizona had it's highest ever daily total of new cases at nearly 3.6k. Good job, vanity wall!

Fuck Florida.

Stay safe, folks.

And cons go into denial when you point out to them that the overwhelming majority of states setting new records daily for new COVID-19 cases are red states that never took the pandemic seriously to start with.

[Breccia]

The "funny" part? He apparently made the claim there--in one of the States that's currently experiencing explosive growth of COVID-19--that "[the border wall] stopped COVID, it stopped everything".

As Coronavirus Cases Surge Nationally, President Trump Shifts Attention to U.S.-Mexico Border Wall

President Donald Trump visited the U.S.-Mexico border Tuesday and tried to credit his new wall with stopping both illegal immigration and the coronavirus. But his visit played out as top public health officials in Washington were testifying about the ongoing threat posed by COVID-19, singling out Arizona as one of the states now experiencing a surge in cases.

In the blazing summer heat, Trump briefly stopped to inspect a new section of the concrete and rebar structure where the president and other officials took a moment to scrawl their signatures on the wall.

“It stopped COVID, it stopped everything,” Trump said.

This is not the first, and is not the last, time we've heard Trump try to blame Mexican rapists for the China virus. Because he has to be the only one who was helping, and everyone else has to be out to get him.

Narcisism breeds paranoia.

[Thepersona]

The good news is experts are optimistic we’ll have a vaccine by next summer. So even if they want to own the libs we can just get vaccinated and they’re only risking themselves... and those who can’t be vaccinated, but we’ll just have to do our best to protect them. Including requiring a vaccination for public school unless you have a waiver.

Best case scenario, we'll get a vaccine by november/december. Now, that wouldnt help Dotard Tang win his reelection, but still.

[Breccia]

Best case scenario, we'll get a vaccine by november/december. Now, that wouldnt help Dotard Tang win his reelection, but still.

He's going to claim there's a vaccine and he's going to take credit for it, after the debates. Calling it now.

[Thepersona]

He's going to claim there's a vaccine and he's going to take credit for it, after the debates. Calling it now.

Lol. Not that it would help him, as the vaccines wont be fully rolled out until after the boreal winter (and by that i mean 100s of millions of doses applied globally).

[Zan15]

Lol. Not that it would help him, as the vaccines wont be fully rolled out until after the boreal winter (and by that i mean 100s of millions of doses applied globally).

doesnt mean he won't lie about it.

[Breccia]

Oh, and a quick look around at various sites suggests Mexico is going far better with the COVID-19 outbreak than we are, proportionately. They seem to have about half the deaths per capita, and cases per capita, as we do.

Trump is trying to argue that the Wall stopped COVID-19. Considering the South, in particular, is growing in cases very quickly and therefore the border is likely worse proportionately than the country, he's arguing that his bathtub filled with water because it was next to a damp towel.

[D Luniz]

I was legitimately confused and thought he was talking about torpedoes or something lol.

that was my thought at first, supercavitating torpedoes, but since I doubt Trump could remember that, let alone pronounce it, he jumped to the "hydrosonic missiles"

[Breccia]

So the Senate GOP had a meeting today and those stimulus checks Trump wants? Probably not going to happen.

Trump views the $1,200 “economic impact payment” checks that featured his name prominently as a political and economic winner. Many GOP senators, on the other hand, think a second round would be a huge waste of money.

Sen. Pat Toomey (Pa.) was one of several Republican senators who warned Mnuchin about the rising red ink at a Tuesday lunch. The deficit is projected to hit $3.7 trillion in 2020, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

“I expressed a lot of skepticism about the wisdom about doing another big spending bill,” Toomey, a member of the Senate Finance Committee, said after the meeting.

He said another round of $1,200 checks doesn’t make sense as the economy starts to reopen after the lockdowns in March and April.

“I’m a skeptic about the idea of doing that. That was an emergency measure taken when we were in a full-blown crisis and, frankly, knew it was wildly inefficient because all kinds of people were getting checks whose work was not jeopardized,” he said.

Toomey said many recipients of the checks “didn’t have any lost income” or were government employees or retirees.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said several of his colleagues spoke up at the meeting and “urged caution moving forward.”

“We want to make sure the next round of assistance is targeted at those who need it the most,” he said.

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) said Senate GOP concerns about the ballooning deficit were “well covered” at the meeting.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), another member of the Finance panel, said the round of $1,200 checks “was necessary at the beginning” of the crisis when people might have had to wait for state and federal unemployment benefits to catch up with the massive spike in layoffs and furloughs in March and April.

“I don’t see the compelling need” for another round now, he said.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) called another round of checks “a terrible idea.”

“We’re already setting records with how much money we’ve spent,” he said. “We’ve added like $4 trillion in debt in one year just with what they’ve done so far.”

I don't see McConnell in on this, but, he's pushed off even the thought of discussion and has made the "No to Everything" stance quite clear. And while Trump could make a deal with Democrats, that's not a Senate victory -- where McConnell lives. Trump would have to intentionally dare McConnell to block it, and for added fun, would force the Party of Trump to split from the Republican Party, humiliating McConnell.

I wonder, though...how many of those GOP Senators, the ones saying "we" spent too much money, had a problem with the tax cut for the rich?

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There are very few nations who have handled this worse than the US.

Yeah...



...and Mexico isn't one of them. And I don't believe Mexico is lying with their numbers.

Related: Trump tells the Arizona rally that Democrats want the country shut down to hurt Trump's numbes.

No, really.

He also made a bunch of claims that the stock market was the best in history, "the plague" was going away soon, etc.

When you have all those tests, you have more cases. We want to do testing. We want to do everything, but they use it to make us look bad.

Ah, Trumpland. It's not the problem, it's the fact that people know about the problem.

And here's one that slipped past.

Our Ruling

Trump said that Biden and other Democrats were in favor of prosecuting churchgoers, but didn’t want to prosecute people for burning churches.

We didn’t find any leading Democrats who said they wanted to prosecute churchgoers for disobeying social distancing rules.

We also didn’t find statements from Biden or other leading Democrats that people who set fires at churches shouldn’t be prosecuted.

In fact, Biden and other leading Democrats spoke out against violence and burnings that took place at some Black Lives Matter demonstrations.

We rate Trump’s claim False.

And finally, one of the founders of the Lincoln Project -- and a lifelong Republican.

Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk.