Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Paranoid Android]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mp/ncna1231389

Normally I would start a new thread but seeing how it involves devos and education threads die off quickly. I will post it here.

In 5-4 decision, Supreme Court rules states cannot ban public funding for religious schools

A major slippery slope has just opened up and I fear for public education more than ever; especially minority’s/poor Americans access to good education.

Such bullshit. So the screw the First Amendment and churches don't pay taxes. Incredible.

I hope many madrasah or schools that have heavy Islam influence go for this. We will see how much they want their freedom of religion.

[Breccia]

The ruling involves scholarships; “ The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Montana's exclusion of religious schools from a state scholarship program funded by tax credits violates the Constitution”

Actually the ruling is in regards to public funding of private schools. Ruling was if a state decided to use tax dollars to fund private schools they can not exclude religious schools.

What I was going for, was that by taking public funds, they'd have to be public schools. Yes, it concerns me that tax money goes to private schools, especially those that exclude by religion, which states aren't allowed to do.

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Trump's Alabama rally next week is canceled due to rising coronavirus cases.

Good, that should help keep even the intentionally ill-informed healthy.

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Let's hear from one of the few competent people in the White House trying to do their job.

Fauci of course.

The United States cannot count on the availability of a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine, the government’s top infectious diseases expert said on Tuesday, and he warned that the daily surge in cases could more than double if Americans fail to take steps to get the virus under control.

I mean, I could stop there and it'd still be fucking terrifying.

“It’s extremely important to have safe and effective vaccines available for everyone in this country,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told a U.S. Senate committee.

Fauci, however, cautioned that “there is no guarantee ... we’ll have a safe and effective vaccine,” and he urged Americans to come together to contain the virus.

Fauci warned that the daily increase of new cases in the United States, currently around 40,000, could reach 100,000 if people do not adhere to social distancing guidelines and wear masks.

“I am very concerned because it could get very bad,” he said.

Remember the number Trump keeps using to talk about those hypothetical lives that he saved? Fauci is basically putting them back.

Quick napkin math here: the daily cases and daily death tolls are about 40,000 and 800. Let's say the death count is proportional to the case count, and let's look at two options:
1) The cases stay flat through July.
2) The cases scale evenly up through July to the levels Fauci mentioned.

(of course, we could actually make cases go down, but you'll see in a minute why I don't need to discuss that option)

The difference in cases, in July only, between these two summarized options is eighteen thousand deaths. Ignoring what that gap would create in August. And that's not total, that's extra. Meaning that estimate of 137,000 we were talking about a while ago is pretty much doomed to be an underestimate.

Now I'd love to see the cases drop, or at worst stay flat, but we're not seeing that. And i'm "hiding out" in New York, the state arguably taking this the most seriously (certainly high on the list). I'm trying to live by example and correcting factual errors I see people making, but that only affects my friends and neighbors. Unless y'all come around and realize the scope of what we're dealing with as a collected country, y'all are just going to keep pushing back further and further any recovery you wanted to see. States are re-closing. Y'all just canceled y'all's own Trump rally. This is your fault.

Oh, and I "can't wait" (sarcasm) to see the spike after July 4.

[PhaelixWW]

Oh, and I "can't wait" (sarcasm) to see the spike after July 4.

The really sad thing is that the lag between the infection curve and the death curve mean that the masses probably won't get scared enough to actually change their behavior until we're at least halfway through July.

[Breccia]

Judge temporarily halts release of the latest Trump book while the case plays out in court.

I think that's fair.

Apparently, the author is calling this a First Amendment violation -- which would be the case, if Trump used his authoritah to stomp on the book's release, but Trump seems to be talking about an NDA. So I don't know that this book is being released.

*ahem*

Legally.

[arandomuser]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/polit...ons/index.html

Trump's Alabama rally next week is canceled due to rising coronavirus cases.

Bet he's wishing he'd actually done something about it now. Or probably not. Who cares. Less bullshit for a day is alright by me.

aw is he a snowflake? They told us if we were worried about the virus we were called a triggered snowflake and told " its just a bad cold"

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[Breccia]

Coronavirus cases more than doubled in at least 10 U.S. states, including Florida and Texas in the month of June, a Reuters analysis on Tuesday showed.

Arizona recorded the biggest jump in cases for the month at 294%, followed by South Carolina and Arkansas. Cases also more than doubled in Alabama, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma and Utah.

Nationally cases rose by at least 43% and deaths increased by 20%. Several states have yet to report cases on Tuesday. (Open tmsnrt.rs/3dM9TLE in an external browser for a Reuters interactive)

Cases increased by less than 10% in June in just four states - New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut and New Jersey.

[draynay]

The fuck is this about?


Is he egging "lone wolf" fanatics on? Talking about himself? Referencing some statue I've never heard of?

maybe the lone warrior is the one who will finally DO SOMETHING

[arandomuser]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...207_story.html

the foreign interference is happening

Ukrainian lawmaker who was once affiliated with a pro-Russian political party and has met with Giuliani released 10 edited snippets of what appeared to be Biden’s official vice presidential phone calls with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in 2016. It was the second cache of recordings the lawmaker, who studied under the KGB in Moscow in the early 1990s, has released since May.

"The authenticity of the audio files, which appear heavily edited, could not be verified"

no other president would get away with having the RUSSIANS help him so much, and i bet you these "tapes" which might be totally altered will be on fox news 24/7 in the coming days

weird whenever trump is in tough shit polling wise, russia comes in to the rescue,

[Hobb]

The fuck is this about?


Is he egging "lone wolf" fanatics on? Talking about himself? Referencing some statue I've never heard of?

Reminds me of his Covfefe summoning meme.

[Felya]

The fuck is this about?

Trump NJPW fam confirmed!!! Minoru Suzuki is that awesome!!!

[Breccia]

The fuck is this about?

Mad Max is on?

By the way, y'all, Texas State just released a press release that they had an unspecified number of faculty, staff, and students test positive.

In summer.

Why didn't y'all just wear the damn mask?

[Edge-]

https://www.axios.com/trump-republic...da6df9fce.html

Until June 30, Republican satisfaction with the state of the country had stayed above 50% for nearly all of Trump’s presidency, according to Pew. The latest survey shows 19% of Republicans and those who lean Republican are satisfied with the direction of the country, compared to 7% of Democrats and those who lean Democrat.

So...is America Great Again?

Because by every measure I've seen so far, it seems like the past 3 years have demonstrably made America worse.

[Zan15]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mp/ncna1231389

Normally I would start a new thread but seeing how it involves devos and education threads die off quickly. I will post it here.

In 5-4 decision, Supreme Court rules states cannot ban public funding for religious schools

A major slippery slope has just opened up and I fear for public education more than ever; especially minority’s/poor Americans access to good education.

tax tax tax time!!

41% of our town property is "untaxable" because its of "religious/non profit" nature.

its getting insane this huge loophole. half of the properties are apartments. No idea how they even do it.

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It still seems to be the cry of Trump and his base, so I'd say he's failed in his almost 4 years.

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US buys up world stock of key Covid-19 drug

Thanks, America.
Literally "fuck the world."

And this orange turd will force Ford to do shit but won't go after major production of something like this on the cheap??

If its really that effective he should have a dozen factories making this around the clock for pennies. All it takes is a quick little pen stroke.

[NoiseTank13]

Mad Max is on?

By the way, y'all, Texas State just released a press release that they had an unspecified number of faculty, staff, and students test positive.

In summer.

Why didn't y'all just wear the damn mask?

me deserve Chili's

[Lanrefni]

tax tax tax time!!

41% of our town property is "untaxable" because its of "religious/non profit" nature.

its getting insane this huge loophole. half of the properties are apartments. No idea how they even do it.

There is no limit to executive compensation in non profits,so you can run a "charitable" organization that takes in a million dollars a year,donates 50k to a cause, and then pays the board of directors 950k and it's all legal for some insane reason.

[Huehuecoyotl]

The Lincoln Project now aiming their adverts at traditional Republican voters, with the aim of getting them to turn on Trump as well. Ouch.

[Zan15]

There is no limit to executive compensation in non profits,so you can run a "charitable" organization that takes in a million dollars a year,donates 50k to a cause, and then pays the board of directors 950k and it's all legal for some insane reason.

oh I know.
Our local "ministry" owns 22 apartments in 3 buildings.

They pull in about 20k a month tax free and no property tax.

Their "board" pays them (two people) well over 100k a year to run the place. they even brag about it often.

Most of the apartments are a wreck and the property is blighted.

They get away with it because they are non profit and rent to people with criminal records at "kind of" reduced rent rates...being all charitable and stuff....

[Zaydin]

Mad Max is on?

By the way, y'all, Texas State just released a press release that they had an unspecified number of faculty, staff, and students test positive.

In summer.

Why didn't y'all just wear the damn mask?

Because two thirds of Republicans are god damn morons who think that the dangers of COVID-19 are exaggerated.

[Belize]

me deserve Chili's

Chili's is too fancy, they're more of the Applebee's crowd.

[Zaydin]

Apparently there has been a sudden steep drop in how many Republicans are satisfied with how things are going in the country. It rapidly dropped from 55% to just 19% now.