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    Quote Originally Posted by Hextor View Post
    What the fuck are these mental gymnastics? The rest of the world can reign in the virus but when the US fails horribly it's "just life"? Lmao
    Its called American Exceptionalism and its pretty common.
    The US has a deep belief that they are special and things that work everywhere else in the world don't work in the US simply because.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    *snip* and he began talking to me since I was a veteran (idk how ppl just know sometimes),*snip*
    its cause how you carry yourself and watching your surroundings.
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Really? Looks like a death cult to me
    *pic snip*
    What’s their cause? To kill people and die?
    I like that the orphan novitiate is wearing a mask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Its called American Exceptionalism and its pretty common.
    The US has a deep belief that they are special and things that work everywhere else in the world don't work in the US simply because.
    As I said, is idol worship by a death cult. Having leadership deny a pandemic, resulting in no national plan and showing support for the president, requiring ignoring all precautions and warnings... is not American exceptionalism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    I like that the orphan novitiate is wearing a mask.
    Where you care enough for your kid, to protect him from a fake pandemic, you are protesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    The protesters are not a death cult. They just beleive thier cause is worth risking their lives and the lives of others. Those that go maskless are fiools though.
    Sorry, I’m sure you are busy writing a witty reply... but, if these protesters were not a death cult, why exactly did they attack nurses?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Really? Looks like a death cult to me:




    What’s their cause? To kill people and die?
    I see you can't be honest about all who have been protesting in ways that help facilitate the spreading of the virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    I see you can't be honest about all who have been protesting in ways that help facilitate the spreading of the virus.
    What do you mean? Arizona, Florida and Texas, the places where these protests were booming, including a gathering of the cult to hear their idol in Tulsa... are the ones where numbers are spiking. NY and WA, where these protests were far and few, are seeing stable numbers. In NY specifically, their testing has gone through the roof, but their numbers are stable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    I like that the orphan novitiate is wearing a mask.
    It's not mask. it does not cover the nose and mouth, is not tight fitting and has no effective filter. He might as well be like the maskless fools around him for all the good it does. But either way that group is failing to social distance, which is worse than not wearing a mask is helping the virus spread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    The protesters are not a death cult. They just beleive thier cause is worth risking their lives and the lives of others. Those that go maskless are fiools though.
    You are dishonest then, becasue that is a death cult. If they don't mind risking the lives of themselves or others then they are a death cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    It's not mask. it does not cover the nose and mouth, is not tight fitting and has no effective filter. He might as well be like the maskless fools around him for all the good it does. But either way that group is failing to social distance, which is worse than not wearing a mask is helping the virus spread.
    They are a group protesting stopping the virus. The kid wearing a mask, to a rally saying the pandemic is bullshit, is irony of great magnitude.

    Oh and in case you missed my edit... why were these protestors attacking nurses? Specifically, what did the nurses do to deserve this? Should have worn a MAGA hat for protection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    I see you can't be honest about all who have been protesting in ways that help facilitate the spreading of the virus.
    Funny, those protests, and gathering in general where people have not worn masks saw infections spread at a far greater rate than the BLM protests where protesters wore masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    You are dishonest then, becasue that is a death cult. If they don't mind risking the lives of themselves or others then they are a death cult.
    They attacked nurses for fuck’s sake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Funny, those protests, and gathering in general where people have not worn masks saw infections spread at a far greater rate than the BLM protests where protesters wore masks.
    At the time of these Open Up protests, Trump was encouraging them to do it. Literally posting “liberate” on twitter, to individual states protesting. Explicitly encouraging the spread of the virus. To top it off, they were attacking nurses and medical professionals working to save lives of COVID patients. They were not only not wearing masks, they were protesting measures to contain the virus and attacking people trying to save lives of those inflicted by the virus.

    How is that not a death cult?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Funny, those protests, and gathering in general where people have not worn masks saw infections spread at a far greater rate than the BLM protests where protesters wore masks.
    Absolutely they will. I addressed this already. Mask are one layer of a multilayer defence. If you don't wash your hands you risk others. If you don't wrear a mask you risk others. If you don't social distace you risk others. I fail to see why we should not be condemning those that fail to social distance in the same way we do those who fail to wear a proper mask....unless there is some sort of agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    Absolutely they will. I addressed this already. Mask are one layer of a multilayer defence. If you don't wash your hands you risk others. If you don't wrear a mask you risk others. If you don't social distace you risk others. I fail to see why we should not be condemning those that fail to social distance in the same way we do those who fail to wear a proper mask....unless there is some sort of agenda.
    What’s the agenda in protesting to deny the virus to the extent they attacked nurses? What’s the agenda in attacking nurses?

    I will repeat... Covid is sky rocketing in Arizona, Texas and Florida... the places that listened to Trump... because he has no agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    What’s the agenda in protesting to deny the virus to the extent they attacked nurses? What’s the agenda in attacking nurses?
    I have no affiliation with them I cannot answer your questions about their action. Ask them for those answers. Whynl do you choose to only condem only certain protesters who fail to follow covid saftey guidlines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    I have no affiliation with them I cannot answer your questions about their action. Ask them for those answers. Whynl do you choose to only condem only certain protesters who fail to follow covid saftey guidlines?
    What do you mean you can’t answer the question? You seem to be denying they are a death cult, but can’t comment on them protesting protective measures and attacking nurses? Wow... that’s saying something...

    I’m sorry, did I mis a protest that was demanding the spread of the virus to the point of attacking nurses? Did I miss the states that have spiking numbers and had these protests? What are you talking about? Do you want to be more specific about the one protest you have a problem with, in spreading covid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    ....unless there is some sort of agenda.
    I really want an answer on this... What was Trump’s agenda in posting “liberate” to encourage protestors that were explicitly impeding attempts to slow down the virus? Why is the virus spiking in the states Trump demanded be liberated? Is there an agenda there? It sure as hell isn’t to save lives or protect American people. Since you bring up agendas, what’s up with this? Why the millions spent oh chloroquine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    What do you mean you can’t answer the question? You seem to be denying they are a death cult, but can’t comment on them protesting protective measures and attacking nurses? Wow... that’s saying something...

    I’m sorry, did I mis a protest that was demanding the spread of the virus to the point of attacking nurses? Did I miss the states that have spiking numbers and had these protests? What are you talking about? Do you want to be more specific about the protest you have a problem with, in spreading covid?
    Again im am not affiliated with them I can not speak for thier actions. Ask them protesters to explain thier reason to for you. I agree they are wrong I thier action to protest maskless and in such close proximity to each others. But they are just one of many groups of humans over the last month that have ignored covid safety guidelines. All that ignore those guidelines are at fault. I fail to see why you only choose this small sub set to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    Again im am not affiliated with them I can not speak for thier actions.
    You can at least say you see an issue with attacking nurses. You keep talking about the protest spreading the virus, but can’t speak for them attacking nurses? Strange...

    Ask them protesters to explain thier reason to for you.
    I already said it... death cult worshiping an idol... there is no possible other explanation. You can’t even imagine one...

    I agree they are wrong I thier action to protest maskless and in such close proximity to each others. But they are just one of many groups of humans over the last month that have ignored covid safety guidelines. All that ignore those guidelines are at fault. I fail to see why you only choose this small sub set to blame.
    Because that group was specifically attacking nurses that were helping patients and were protesting the literal measures to protect others, because their god lord Trump told them to. Than there is the fact that these very states is where the virus is raging out of control, who am I supposed to blame? If not people spiking the numbers, while demanding an end to preventative measures and even attacking people trying to save lives... name who I am supposed to blame instead? Some protest you can’t name, that isn’t correlating with spiking numbers and wasn’t actively demanding that covid be ignored?

    Edit: I’m anxiously awaiting the name of this protest, that spread the virus more, than protests attacking nurses and demanding an end to preventive measures, in states that have cases on extreme rise. Can’t wait...

    Edit 2:

    Just a reminder, the cause of these protests is to not wear masks, not to social distance and not to quarantine. What other cause that you state they believe below, are you talking about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    The protesters are not a death cult. They just beleive thier cause is worth risking their lives and the lives of others. Those that go maskless are fiools though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You can at least say you see an issue with attacking nurses. You keep talking about the protest spreading the virus, but can’t speak for them attacking nurses? Strange...



    I already said it... death cult worshiping an idol... there is no possible other explanation. You can’t even imagine one...



    Because that group was specifically attacking nurses that were helping patients and were protesting the literal measures to protect others, because their god lord Trump told them to. Than there is the fact that these very states is where the virus is raging out of control, who am I supposed to blame? If not people spiking the numbers, while demanding an end to preventative measures and even attacking people trying to save lives... name who I am supposed to blame instead? Some protest you can’t name, that isn’t correlating with spiking numbers and wasn’t actively demanding that covid be ignored?
    All who fail to follow covid safety guidlines, which includes failing to social distance, regardless of what political cause motivated said protest. I stand by my claim. America did this to itself becuase other matters were more important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    All who fail to follow covid safety guidlines, which includes failing to social distance, regardless of what political cause motivated said protest. I stand by my claim. America did this to itself becuase other matters were more important.
    These protestors protested safety guides and social distancing, for no reason other than they god lord Trump. You brought up protests, but still blame everyone for failing to follow guidelines, completely ignoring those who protested them to the point of attacking nurses. There is no one to blame for that, but Trump... he is the one that has been lying to create thus issue. He is the one that refuses to wear a mask and flames conspiracy theory.

    Without Trump, we would have a national, united response. America is not to blame for this, since majority of us have been listening to medical officials. The issue is the few who listen to the president instead. American people cannot produce a national response, without leadership. It’s the whole point of a president... who you can’t blame American people for either, since 3 million more voted for the other candidate.

    Like I said... death cult... no need to blame America...

    Edit: For fuck’s sake, both East and west states had to form coalitions to have even that limited united response. Something that Trump bitched about, as the evil left attacking him, claiming that it’s his job... even though he is still not doing it.

    Edit 2:
    Trump in February: “The heat will kill the virus”
    Australia in February: “It’s summer here, bro...”

    Trump for months: “chloroquine!!!!”
    Study results: “... increases mortality rate.”

    Trump: “Injecting disinfectants?”
    The world: “...”

    Trump in March: “It will go away in April... like magic...”
    You in July: “ America did this to itself becuase other matters were more important.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    These protestors protested safety guides and social distancing, for no reason other than they god lord Trump. You brought up protests, but still blame everyone for failing to follow guidelines, completely ignoring those who protested them to the point of attacking nurses. There is no one to blame for that, but Trump... he is the one that has been lying to create thus issue. He is the one that refuses to wear a mask and flames conspiracy theory.

    Without Trump, we would have a national, united response. America is not to blame for this, since majority of us have been listening to medical officials. The issue is the few who listen to the president instead. American people cannot produce a national response, without leadership. It’s the whole point of a president... who you can’t blame American people for either, since 3 million more voted for the other candidate.

    Like I said... death cult... no need to blame America...

    Edit: For fuck’s sake, both East and west states had to form coalitions to have even that limited united response. Something that Trump bitched about, as the evil left attacking him, claiming that it’s his job... even though he is still not doing it.
    Those that attacked nurses are at fault for thier actions. Trump didn't hold a gun to their heads. Thier failures are their own. Just like all those that chose to protest instead of social distancing.
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