Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Rasulis]

A Texas ICU nurse is hospitalized with Covid-19 after testing negative

24-year old TX ICU nurse. Felt tired, no surprise. Started coughing, body aches & fever.

Antibody test - negative.

Virus test - negative.

CT scan - lungs affected and ended up hospitalized.'

Be careful out there.

[cubby]

/snip video of Dan Quayle misspelling Potato

I miss when these gaffes were considered scandalous : (

Remember the days when we would disqualify cabinet secretaries from confirmation when they had any issues in their background, including mis-paying taxes on domestic help? I sure miss the rule of law applying to the Executive Branch.

[Kaleredar]

It's not even 2PM... DeSantis needs to stop fucking around and close everything. He's already 2 weeks too late to keep his hospitals from being overwhelmed.

DeSantis has proven that he’s nothing if not a trump shill.

I’m curious about the end game from his perspective... is it truly incompetency, or does he feel like admitting there’s indeed a Covid problem, and therefore admitting trump was and is wrong, will hurt trump’s chances in the critical Florida elections?

[Adam Jensen]

A Texas ICU nurse is hospitalized with Covid-19 after testing negative

24-year old TX ICU nurse. Felt tired, no surprise. Started coughing, body aches & fever.

Antibody test - negative.

Virus test - negative.

CT scan - lungs affected and ended up hospitalized.'

Be careful out there.

No test is 100% successful

[cubby]

Meh, this one is a bit of a nothingberder. "The Black Death" is treatable with simple antibiotics nowadays and is easily survivable and critters have been carriers all over the globe forever.

Now, as far as FLORIDA goes....just over 9k new cases reported today and their highest ever death total: 132.
Fucked = Florida.

And if FL is seeing daily case counts higher than New York State ever saw, then would it be presumptuous to assume that (fuck) Florida might also see a daily death count higher than NY ever saw (731 in April)?

[DocSavageFan]

There are plenty of examples of police acting brutally against people who weren't rioters.

And there's plenty of examples of rioters acting brutally against people who weren't rioters as well as plenty of examples of rioters brutally destroying the property of innocent people. And you act as if you made a cogent point...but somehow I must have missed it.

[Thekri]

And if FL is seeing daily case counts higher than New York State ever saw, then would it be presumptuous to assume that (fuck) Florida might also see a daily death count higher than NY ever saw (731 in April)?

Hopefully not. Death rates do seem legitimately lower now, maybe it is because we have improved in care, maybe it is because the median age of people exposed are lower, or maybe something changed in the virus. Or most likely some combination of a range of factors. Hopefully we do not see the same death tolls as we saw in NY.

[Benggaul]

It's not even 2PM... DeSantis needs to stop fucking around and close everything. He's already 2 weeks too late to keep his hospitals from being overwhelmed.

The way Florida (and I THINK most other states?) reports these are the numbers from the day before. We won't see TODAY'S numbers until tomorrow, so it doesn't really matter what time it's reported. But yeah, it's already far too late, especially for half-measures.

[Thekri]

And there's plenty of examples of rioters acting brutally against people who weren't rioters as well as plenty of examples of rioters brutally destroying the property of innocent people. And you act as if you made a cogent point...but somehow I must have missed it.

Nobody is defending rioters man. As much as you want to strawman it, nobody is doing that. Violent people that hurt people are bad, everyone agrees with that. The fact you cannot make the distinction between rioters and protests doesn't mean the rest of us can't.

[Benggaul]

And if FL is seeing daily case counts higher than New York State ever saw, then would it be presumptuous to assume that (fuck) Florida might also see a daily death count higher than NY ever saw (731 in April)?

Hard to say, both because they are obscuring their data and because treatment HAS improved a lot since March. The average age of those admitted to the hospital has dropped dramatically which means there's probably also a better chance of their survival (although probably not without lifelong complications). Of course, if their healthcare system is being overwhelmed--and there is every indication that it is--then seeing a daily total of several hundred in the near future probably isn't out of the question.

[Rasulis]

DeSantis has proven that he’s nothing if not a trump shill.

I’m curious about the end game from his perspective... is it truly incompetency, or does he feel like admitting there’s indeed a Covid problem, and therefore admitting trump was and is wrong, will hurt trump’s chances in the critical Florida elections?

From Gallup.

GOP Governors Losing Residents' Support on COVID-19

There have been clear declines in residents' ratings of their governor in Republican-led states as a whole. This includes an 11-point decrease, from 54% in early June to 43% most recently, in those agreeing their governor is communicating a clear plan of action for addressing the pandemic. There has also been an eight-point decline, from 61% to 53%, in those agreeing their governor cares about the safety and health of the community.

Meanwhile, there has been no meaningful change in the governor ratings of residents in Democratic-led states as a whole.

Further analysis of the Gallup data shows that Republican governors lost the most support over the past month from political independents, with lesser declines seen among Republican residents. Democrats' already low ratings of their Republican governors' response to the situation were fairly flat by comparison.

Meanwhile, in states led by Democratic governors, independents' ratings of their governors' handling of the situation increased slightly in June, by six to eight points across the dimensions analyzed. Republicans living in these states also grew slightly more positive about their Democratic governors' leadership over the course of June, while Democratic residents' already high ratings didn't change much at all.

[DocSavageFan]

DeSantis has proven that he’s nothing if not a trump shill.

I’m curious about the end game from his perspective... is it truly incompetency, or does he feel like admitting there’s indeed a Covid problem, and therefore admitting trump was and is wrong, will hurt trump’s chances in the critical Florida elections?

DeSantis needs to free up hospital beds by sending all the sick old folks back to their nursing homes. And when the plan goes to hell in a hand basket...all he needs to do is blame Trump to absolve himself of any culpability. Easy peasy!

[Thee ANCOM]

And there's plenty of examples of rioters acting brutally against people who weren't rioters as well as plenty of examples of rioters brutally destroying the property of innocent people. And you act as if you made a cogent point...but somehow I must have missed it.

stay mad, the court of public opinion has ruled lives are more important than property.

[DocSavageFan]

Nobody is defending rioters man. As much as you want to strawman it, nobody is doing that. Violent people that hurt people are bad, everyone agrees with that. The fact you cannot make the distinction between rioters and protests doesn't mean the rest of us can't.

I'm talking about the RIOTERS Dr. Einstein. How the fuck could you miss that?

[Felya]

DeSantis needs to free up hospital beds by sending all the sick old folks back to their nursing homes. And when the plan goes to hell in a hand basket...all he needs to do is blame Trump to absolve himself of any culpability. Easy peasy!

Want to try again?

Florida ordered 1M doses of a Trump-touted drug. Hospitals didn't want it
https://www.politico.com/states/flor...ant-it-1292638

In Trump's 'LIBERATE' tweets, extremists see a call to arms
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/securit...-arms-n1186561

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I'm talking about the RIOTERS Dr. Einstein. How the fuck could you miss that?

Would there have been rioters if Trump was leading, instead of inspecting bunkers and then tear gassing protestors?

[Benggaul]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Yes, this is where I get most of my info every day. I'm not sure what you're trying to say. What they (Florida) is reporting is the PREVIOUS day's totals. They almost always do it all at once around noon.

[Thee ANCOM]

its funny how conservatives have to keep harping about looters and rioters when that hasn't happend in weeks while everyday more and more evidence of cops brutalizing innocent people wont stop coming to light.

[DocSavageFan]

stay mad, the court of public opinion has ruled lives are more important than property.

False dichotomy is false dichotomy.

[Felya]

False dichotomy is false dichotomy.

Liberating states is a false dichotomy? Trump chose property, as in wallstreet, over American lives.

[Thee ANCOM]

False dichotomy is false dichotomy.

I'm not sure you know what that means.