1. #49281
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    It's nice to see that the approval from Republicans seems to be trending down as well...but Jesus Christ... 80% is pretty horrifying. If nothing else, it goes to show that politicizing something that should be as trivial as wearing a mask has worked wonders for his base.

  2. #49282
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    People keep telling me not to paint all Republicans with a Trump brush but that picture sure seems to tell me his support among Republicans has barely wavered despite the utter shitshow around his handling of the repsonce.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  3. #49283
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    It's nice to see that the approval from Republicans seems to be trending down as well...but Jesus Christ... 80% is pretty horrifying. If nothing else, it goes to show that politicizing something that should be as trivial as wearing a mask has worked wonders for his base.
    Well even if it has been trending downward since the end of March the republican approval rating of 80% for the corona virus handling is about the same as in the early days of the pandemic (late February, beginning of March).

    One obvious question that is left hanging is whether 80% of republicans say it's "my president right, or wrong"; or whether people who disapprove switch party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    Well even if it has been trending downward since the end of March the republican approval rating of 80% for the corona virus handling is about the same as in the early days of the pandemic (late February, beginning of March).

    One obvious question that is left hanging is whether 80% of republicans say it's "my president right, or wrong"; or whether people who disapprove switch party.
    The GOP voters who disapprove of Trump are the ones who say they're independent voters. They probably haven't switched parties but might not vote for Trump while voting for GOP down ticket. The GOP voters aren't switching sides.

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    'Trump administration pushing to block new money for testing, tracing, and CDC in upcoming coronavirus relief bill'

    at this point you hope the rona fucking gets him right? what a cunt.

    The pandemic cant be helped but the response to it can, America has fucked it up royally. Culturally they struggle with collectivism and structually they seem unable to do basic planning.

  6. #49286
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    'Trump administration pushing to block new money for testing, tracing, and CDC in upcoming coronavirus relief bill'

    at this point you hope the rona fucking gets him right? what a cunt.

    The pandemic cant be helped but the response to it can, America has fucked it up royally. Culturally they struggle with collectivism and structually they seem unable to do basic planning.
    And to think they had the nerve to claim he was just kidding when he said, "So I said to my people, 'Sloooowww the testing down, please!'".

    As far as the rona getting him, no chance. Even COVID has its standards.
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  7. #49287
    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    I would expect everyone, no matter the political affiliation, to be upset about this.

    They might think to themselves it's OK because they agreed with the targets. But as we all know government doesn't give back power it got (y'all still take your shoes off at the airport and get your balls fondled). One day government will switch political affiliation and conservative folk might be targets themselves.
    You'd be wrong. The conservafrauds here are creaming their pants over the tyrannical government coming down on the left and minorities. And if they did care they are all too scared shitless to actually do anything about it, like they all claim they would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    You'd be wrong. The conservafrauds here are creaming their pants over the tyrannical government coming down on the left and minorities. And if they did care they are all too scared shitless to actually do anything about it, like they all claim they would.
    From what I've seen, Trump supporters are digging in hard. Which, from a practical standpoint, means the virus will continue to thrive for quite a while.

  9. #49289
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    The GOP voters who disapprove of Trump are the ones who say they're independent voters. They probably haven't switched parties but might not vote for Trump while voting for GOP down ticket. The GOP voters aren't switching sides.
    That would be plausible, my question was whether we have seen that shift.

    I tried to look and https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/p...filiation.aspx more shows a shift from republicans to nothing since early March; neither independent nor democrat. Basically republicans down 5 percentage points, independents up 2, democrats up 1, nothing up 3.
    However, that isn't much compared to polling errors, and the latest poll was in early June (I couldn't find a summary at 538).

  10. #49290
    'Deputy Secretary of DHS Ken Cuccinelli tells NPR not only are they not stopping the Portland tactics they're going to take them nationwide.'

    lol will centrists keep thier heads in the sand.

    ICE, DHS, CBP looking like the footsoldiers for the dangerous election period.

  11. #49291
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    From what I've seen, Trump supporters are digging in hard. Which, from a practical standpoint, means the virus will continue to thrive for quite a while.
    Nothing to do with my point but you are correct. They are the main cause if the spread by refusing to wear masks and their fellow idion elected officials acting like it was no big deal, even now.

    My point was about the gun toting, bible thumping, 2nd amendment types who talk ab big game about overthrowing tyranny, but have yet to step forward when it's happening to liberals and minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    And Trump has stolen Linkin Park music for his most recent ad. Everyone I know involved with the group is kinda pissed.
    Tell them to issue a C&D and threaten to sue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Nothing to do with my point but you are correct. They are the main cause if the spread by refusing to wear masks and their fellow idion elected officials acting like it was no big deal, even now.

    My point was about the gun toting, bible thumping, 2nd amendment types who talk ab big game about overthrowing tyranny, but have yet to step forward when it's happening to liberals and minorities.

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    Tell them to issue a C&D and threaten to sue.
    This. I can't stand Linkin Park, but compared to Trump I practically love them, they should definitely sue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspark View Post
    This. I can't stand Linkin Park, but compared to Trump I practically love them, they should definitely sue.
    In the end, does it really matter?

    I’ll see my self out...
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    Cause apparently the shitshow wont end till we drown in it

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/w...gtype=Homepage


    The White House pushes to eliminate billions from a relief proposal drafted by Senate Republicans.
    The Trump administration has objected to the inclusion of billions of dollars for coronavirus testing and tracing across the country in an opening draft proposal from Senate Republicans for the next coronavirus relief package, further complicating efforts to reach an agreement on the legislation.

    The draft suggested allocating $25 billion to states for testing and contact tracing, as well as almost $10 billion to shore up the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and $15 billion to bolster the National Institutes of Health, according to a person familiar with the tentative plans, who cautioned that the final dollar figures remained in flux.

    The administration has instead pushed to eliminate all of those funds and has also called for cutting billions of dollars set aside for the Pentagon and the State Department to help counter the outbreak and potentially distribute a vaccine at home and abroad.

    The suggestions from the administration, according to two people familiar with the proposals, included funding priorities unrelated to the spread of the coronavirus, including the contentious effort to construct a new building for the F.B.I. The people asked for anonymity to disclose private details of the talks, which were first reported by The Washington Post.
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Nothing to do with my point but you are correct. They are the main cause if the spread by refusing to wear masks and their fellow idion elected officials acting like it was no big deal, even now.

    My point was about the gun toting, bible thumping, 2nd amendment types who talk ab big game about overthrowing tyranny, but have yet to step forward when it's happening to liberals and minorities.
    Oh I see. Thanks for the clarification.

    'Deputy Secretary of DHS Ken Cuccinelli tells NPR not only are they not stopping the Portland tactics they're going to take them nationwide.'

    They are doubling down on that as well

    And to continue with the post of @jonnysensible

    ICE, DHS, CBP looking like the footsoldiers for the dangerous election period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Their music may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but every member is/was a good person. None of them support Trump or his horrendous policies.
    Yeah, I don't know any of them personally, I just can't stand their music. If they don't support Trump I'll support them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    Oh I see. Thanks for the clarification.

    'Deputy Secretary of DHS Ken Cuccinelli tells NPR not only are they not stopping the Portland tactics they're going to take them nationwide.'

    They are doubling down on that as well

    And to continue with the post of @jonnysensible

    ICE, DHS, CBP looking like the footsoldiers for the dangerous election period.
    I expect them to start "arresting" minorities and "anyone who looks liberal" en masse leading up to the election. They're basically the SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I've personally posted dozens of early-morning/late-night tweets by Trump. That's not an excuse. Incidentally, supposedly he's retweeted over 20 times since the news broke, pretty much all about himself. I'm predicting that "form letter" to drop later today, after his staff has shamed him about it. And I also predict his 1AM shout-out to Hannity's replacement will have more emotion.
    Can't be any worse than Rubio offering a scripted condolence tweet and then changing his profile picture to one of himself and....Elijah Cummings, because all Black Congressmen are the same person to Lil Marky Mark.

    Fuck them clowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    They arrested a random pedestrian who was wearing black for walking near a protest... It's pretty clear they're going to claim they're "rounding up antifa" to justify a lot of this shit.
    I can see someone who fights back, ends up in court for assaulting an officer. "They jumped out of the van. I thought I was too old. No offer of candy. No puppies were mentioned. Not even my mom was in an accident. This was the worst Epstein recruitment ever."
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    'Deputy Secretary of DHS Ken Cuccinelli tells NPR not only are they not stopping the Portland tactics they're going to take them nationwide.'

    lol will centrists keep thier heads in the sand.

    ICE, DHS, CBP looking like the footsoldiers for the dangerous election period.
    Tell the governors to call the national guard, and treat them as enemy soldiers if they dont identify themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    I can see someone who fights back, ends up in court for assaulting an officer. "They jumped out of the van. I thought I was too old. No offer of candy. No puppies were mentioned. Not even my mom was in an accident. This was the worst Epstein recruitment ever."
    If they even make it to court. People will probably just start disappearing. Welcome to 1939 Germany. I wonder how many people being grabbed off the street are being sent to the concentration camps.
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