Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Ursus]

Sticking with Gohmert, he's supposedly pulled all his staff into his office to inform them of his positive test.... He also tried to say that wearing a mask may have given him the virus

People like this are in charge of other people's lives. Boggles the mind.

Not to worry, a round of hydroxychloriquine, demon seed, and space alien DNA will clear any infections right up.

[Rasulis]

It's being masked as a "policy" issue, arguing that Biden would bring back the Obama era housing rule Trump ended - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirm...g_Fair_Housing

But, as with his "Suburban housewives" tweet, it's transparently aimed at scaring wealthier white suburbanites into thinking the poors (usually code for "people of color") will come into their neighborhoods.

The irony is that HUD never enforce the "Fair Housing Act". Not even once. If a local jurisdiction did not want a low-income housing built within their area, all they had to do to get around the "Fair Housing Act" was make life miserable for the developer during the building department review and inspection phases. Then they could claim that the developer's proposed project did not meet codes, substandard, or whatever such BS.

That's from personal experience.

[Zan15]

Not to worry, a round of hydroxychloriquine, demon seed, and space alien DNA will clear any infections right up.

i am all for a space alien fucking him right up the ass, no lube!! give him all the DNA he needs!

[Belize]

i am all for a space alien fucking him right up the ass, no lube!! give him all the DNA he needs!

Don't threaten him with a good time.

[Adam Jensen]

Not just Joe Public, but those actually in power, too. I've no doubt some are just scum and do what they do for the monetary gain, but I also don't doubt that plenty believe the absolute garbage they read online. Like the "doctor" Trump is currently pushing and defending. She sounds like a person that has just accepted every conspiracy she's ever seen online. They're even still defending her.

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Don't forget a drop of zinc!

And a spoonful of clorox.

[SirBeef]

Question: is the President actually able to do anything about it? Just seems like more screaming at the clouds to me.

No it will end up being on the pile of EOs that get challenged and tossed out in court. I do believe he's lost like 68 EO court battles already.

[Paranoid Android]

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...talitarianism/

President Postliterate Bestwords continues to make dumb mistakes. In his latest fury to retweet as much pro-Trump content as possible, he also unintentionally retweeted an op-ed in the Washington Times by Judge Napolitano, frequent Fox News contributor.

The op-ed called his deployment of federal troops unconstitutional. I guess he just really liked the image of armed and geared Gestapo looking menacing as they stand over a huddled protester who has a face full of tear gas -



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https://www.salon.com/2020/07/29/sen...nch-deduction/

Democrats: People are losing their jobs and going hungry, we need to make sure that safety nets can at least keep people fed.

Republicans: Fuck that, we ain't giving the poors no handout. But have you seen our business meal tax proposal? You can write the whole thing off! Get that extra martini and serving of caviar, the taxpayers will foot the bill.

Haha! This moron is so senile. The brain is not there. He is dangerous because his brain is rotten. We have propped up a moron who cant even read a headline properly.

Wait am I an idiot? Many headlines are click bait. Did I get jebaited and in the article Napolitano actually calls for harsh facism and a crackdown on American citizens? Trump is a brilliant legal mind for actually reading passed the click bait and finding the nuance.

[Ursus]

Wracking up more than 1 per month is kind of an impressive feat of incompetence.

It's Trump, the biglier the numbers, the better.

[Poopymonster]

i am all for a space alien fucking him right up the ass, no lube!! give him all the DNA he needs!

All we've learned is 1 in 10 don't seem to mind...

[Edge-]

How the fuck has Gym Jordan not been kicked out of there for repeatedly taking off his mask, yelling, and interrupting other Reps? The man is a fucking lunatic, and absolutely committed to his angry victim act. The hearing was ostensibly to address anti-monopoly and regulatory issues with big tech, yet he and other Republicans decided to make it a fucking victim olympics to whinge and moan that conservatives get in trouble for breaking rules that apply to everyone.

What a fuckin clown show, and I am beyond disgusted that this is where Republican priorities are during a god-damned pandemic and in the face of increasing issues with big tech facilitating hate and dangerous misinformation.

[cubby]

Apologies if this has already been posted somewhere here, but I didn't see anything on a cursory glance and I'm curious to see what people thought about this.

U.S. Plans To Cut Troops In Germany By A Third

Esper claims this is merely an 'acceleration' by Trump for per-existing plans, not strictly an act of reprisal. A number of Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee came out against the plan in June, so the proposal has been floating around for a while at least. Now it's a question of if this decision really is the spiteful, petulant action it seems to be (according to Trump's own words on the topic) or if there's actually some merit to the choice.

It's horrific. Terrible idea - and they try to be so clever when Esper claims that this move will bolster the efforts against the Russians - not even making this up. Trump being a Russian stooge is at this point a foregone conclusion.

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How the fuck has Gym Jordan not been kicked out of there for repeatedly taking off his mask, yelling, and interrupting other Reps? The man is a fucking lunatic, and absolutely committed to his angry victim act. The hearing was ostensibly to address anti-monopoly and regulatory issues with big tech, yet he and other Republicans decided to make it a fucking victim olympics to whinge and moan that conservatives get in trouble for breaking rules that apply to everyone.

What a fuckin clown show, and I am beyond disgusted that this is where Republican priorities are during a god-damned pandemic and in the face of increasing issues with big tech facilitating hate and dangerous misinformation.

Agreed. People are posting as to why the Democratic policies are the only policies that are "right" for the United States, and we can just point to Gym Jordan and the other Republican peeps who follow the cult who's leader suggested, and then doubled down, on drinking bleach to cure a virus.

The GOP are essentially fucking imbeciles at this point, with few exceptions.

If Trump steals/wins the election in November this country is finished.

[Benggaul]

66,921 new cases; about 5k fewer than last Wednesday. The past few days have been on the whole lower than last week, so that's a good sign. Let's hope the trend holds.

California: 10,609 new cases; 195 deaths (new record)
Florida: 9,446 new cases; 216 deaths (new record)
Texas: 9,217 new cases; 313 deaths (new record*)
Georgia: 3,271 new cases; 79 deaths
Arizona: 2,339 new cases; 46 deaths
Tennessee: 1,778 new cases; 21 deaths
South Carolina: 1,737 new cases; 50 deaths
Louisiana: 1,735 new cases; 72 deaths
North Carolina: 1,715 new cases; 41 deaths
Missouri: 1,547 new cases; 10 deaths
Mississippi: 1,505 new cases; 20 deaths
Alabama: 1,416 new cases; 47 deaths
Illinois: 1,393 new cases; 16 deaths
Ohio: 1,363 new cases; 34 deaths
Michigan: 1,016 new cases; 1 death

Overall cases have been down or plateaued, which is good, though part of the reason California's cases were down the past few days was due to a backlog:

Los Angeles County reports +4,741 new cases with this note:"The high number of new cases are, in part, due to a backlog of over 2,000 results received from Thursday through Sunday." [source]
San Bernardino County reports +2,347 new cases with this note:"07/29/20 - A large amount of data was entered into the database as a result of a backlog of cases over the past several days. This caused a spike in the number of new cases." [source]

I'm not seeing any new records for cases, though some states bordering the South and Midwest are seeing an increase due to their proximity to these outbreaks (Virginia was the example I mentioned a few days ago). So far they've been manageable increases and hopefully they stay that way. We may have seen the peak for this wave, though as always I want to see another full week of data to see if there are concrete patterns.

Unfortunately as you have no doubt noticed, the deaths are now escalating. 1,485 on the day; a couple hundred more than last Wednesday, putting the total at 153,840. Florida can't hide them all. Fuck Florida.

The high number from Texas, however, comes in part due to a correction:

There has been (and currently is) a steep discrepancy in the total number of deaths reported by state and county official sources since July 27, when the Texas Department of State Health Services started counting deaths marked on death certificates as caused by COVID-19, whereas previously the state relied on local and regional public health departments to verify and report deaths. The city of Houston (representing the most notable example of such discrepancies, with Harris County reporting 685 total deaths while the state's dashboard reports 1,182 deaths) says it plans to switch to the state’s method of reporting deaths in the next few days, according to reports citing Dr. David Persse, Houston Health Authority. Counties affected are, among others: Harris, Bexar, Cameron, Galveston, Fort Bend, and Denton. Worldometer is monitoring the situation closely and trying to reconcile the conflicting reporting as best as possible pending a timely reconciliation between the two sources.

So we can probably expect to see higher-than-expected numbers coming out of there until they're all caught up--though Texas will still likely have 200+ deaths per day for the next week. In fact we can probably expect to see deaths around this level for a while given how long Texas, California and Florida have all seen 9-10k days. The hospitals aren't getting any relief and the new cases are piling up.

Stay safe, folks.

[jonnysensible]

saw one of the turning points dopes got owned by corona, wasnt charlie kirk tho.

F

[Breccia]

Florida: 9,446 new cases; 216 deaths (new record)

It's just...wow. They mocked NY for weeks, and it would be in poor taste to mock them back, but this grows sadder by the day.

Assuming this is FL's peak deaths, they'll probably end up with about 12,000 dead.

[Benggaul]

Assuming this is FL's peak deaths, they'll probably end up with about 12,000 dead.

That we know of. Fuck Florida.

In related news, Dr. Fauci is saying there are 4 states that are worrying him currently: Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky and Tennessee.

This is based on the fact that those four states are showing an increase in percent positives in testing. Well see how that goes.

[Rasulis]

Interesting reading from NPR. I assume NPR is not considered fake news?

Irregularities in COVID Reporting Contract Award Process Raises New Questions

An NPR investigation has found irregularities in the process by which the Trump administration awarded a multi-million dollar contract to a Pittsburgh company to collect key data about Covid-19 from the country's hospitals.

The contract is at the center of a controversy over the Administration's decision to move that data reporting function from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — which has tracked infection information for a range of illnesses for years — to the Department of Health and Human Services.

TeleTracking Technologies, the company that won the contract, has traditionally focused on creating software for hospitals to track patient status. And there are questions about how it came to be responsible for gathering data in the midst of a pandemic.

Among the findings of the NPR investigation:

• The Department of Health and Human Services initially characterized the contract with TeleTracking as a no-bid contract. When asked about that, HHS said there was a "coding error" and that the contract was actually competitively bid.
• The process by which HHS awarded the contract is normally used for innovative scientific research, not the building of government databases.
• HHS had directly phoned the company about the contract, according to a company spokesperson.
• TeleTracking CEO Michael Zamagias had links to the New York real estate world — and in particular, a firm that financed billions of dollars in projects with the Trump Organization.

You can read the rest yourself.

[Zan15]

How the fuck has Gym Jordan not been kicked out of there for repeatedly taking off his mask, yelling, and interrupting other Reps? The man is a fucking lunatic, and absolutely committed to his angry victim act. The hearing was ostensibly to address anti-monopoly and regulatory issues with big tech, yet he and other Republicans decided to make it a fucking victim olympics to whinge and moan that conservatives get in trouble for breaking rules that apply to everyone.

What a fuckin clown show, and I am beyond disgusted that this is where Republican priorities are during a god-damned pandemic and in the face of increasing issues with big tech facilitating hate and dangerous misinformation.

i think its better to let him stay and make a fool of himself.


so stupid being an anti-monopoly when half of the participants are active competitors of each other.

hell you pull amazon in but meanwhile Amazon still has 1/4 of the retail sales Wallmart does (once you break out their server business)
How the hell are they a monopoly?

Even their server business has several competitors including a 1.4 trillion dollar microsoft (who for some reason was not included, how weird owning what 97% of the OS and other software markets).

Guess MS was smart not to buy a newspaper....

[Thepersona]

It's just...wow. They mocked NY for weeks, and it would be in poor taste to mock them back, but this grows sadder by the day.

Assuming this is FL's peak deaths, they'll probably end up with about 12,000 dead.

Confirmed dead. Probably much more, as you know, FL likes to put people who died of COVID as people who died of a misterious pneumonia, or influenza.

[cubby]

Confirmed dead. Probably much more, as you know, FL likes to put people who died of COVID as people who died of a misterious pneumonia, or influenza.

If Trump loses, we can maybe get a statistically accurate count of the COVID dead. It's fucking horrific that we actually have state governments lying about their data, all for political reasons.

[Thepersona]

If Trump loses, we can maybe get a statistically accurate count of the COVID dead. It's fucking horrific that we actually have state governments lying about their data, all for political reasons.

Ehh, at this point i've accepted the horrible reality of that (which also happens in my country, so yay for right wing governments). I really ,really, really hope that you vote Trump out, because if not, we as humanity are royally fucked.