Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Rasulis]

Our so called President is playing golf while Pelosi, Mnuchin and Schumer are negotiating. All he did was sent his chief of staff (Mark Meadow) to the meeting. WTH! Where is the great negotiator. This is so freaking dumb. The people that elected him are even dumber.

[Gorsameth]

Our so called President is playing golf while Pelosi, Mnuchin and Schumer are negotiating. All he did was sent his chief of staff (Mark Meadow) to the meeting. WTH! Where is the great negotiator. This is so freaking dumb. The people that elected him are even dumber.

No one cares about Trump, let him publicly veto Covid relief for 'the common man' and see how well that goes for him and the GOP.

[Breccia]

I would love for a reporter to ask Trump about that shit considering he claimed he’d be too busy to golf.

I would love to see that thrown in his face as well. Biden has hundreds of examples to pick from -- but, yes, the weekend in which coronavirus relief ended should be near the top of that list. Is Trump a member of Congress? No. Is he the leader of the Republican Party? Yes. He should be using his political weight to influhuuhuuheeheeheeHAHAHAHAH oh man...Trump with political weight...man, I almost finished that sentence. Trump's been making random-ass requests like "FBI building" and "payroll tax cut" that even McConnell is openly saying "no, we're not doing that".

A real President, at this time, would be pushing a deal that meets bipartisan support. The Democrats not only don't want to work with Trump (bad for their election year image) they don't think he'll pay them and they don't think he'll survive re-election. A growing number of GOP members are on board with all three of those. Trump has become more hindrance than help to the party he took over and to the country in general -- and this happened a while ago, we're just seeing it in full display.

[Benggaul]

58,429 new cases; about 10k fewer than the previous Saturday and the first time since July 12th it was lower than 60k. There are some tiny embers of hope for the time being.

Florida: 9,642 new cases; 179 deaths
California: 7,382 new cases; 137 deaths
Texas: 6,720 new cases; 268 deaths
Georgia: 3,660 new cases; 73 deaths
Arizona: 2,992 new cases; 53 deaths
Tennessee: 2,225 new cases; 7 deaths
Illinois: 1,639 new cases; 8 deaths
Alabama: 1,626 new cases; 23 deaths
South Carolina: 1,583 new cases; 39 deaths
North Carolina: 1,264 new cases; 33 deaths
Oklahoma: 1,244 new cases; 8 deaths
Mississippi: 1,134 new cases; 30 deaths
Wisconsin: 1,062 new cases; 13 deaths
Maryland: 1,019 new cases; 13 deaths

No new records jump out at me, though some states are still trending up towards previous highs (Wisconsin had their second highest total of new cases today). It's the beginning of the weekend so totals will likely be underreported through to the end of Monday, but it's still good that they've been lower this entire week than the previous week. It's not done spreading in most states, but it appears the hardest-hit states have passed their peaks.

Deaths went above 1k for the 5th day in a row, as expected, ending at 1,123, about a couple hundred more than the previous Saturday, putting the total at 157,898. Nothing else to note since this is what we've all been saying will happen. It will likely continue to be over 1k next week after the weekend lull in reporting. The US will pass 160k on Tuesday, most likely.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

Trump made his second unscheduled visit in less than a year to Walter Reed today. This time he had to be rushed there from the golf course. Based on photos he at least had an IV in his hand.

Okay, when you post something this big you really need a cited source.

[Felya]

Check the hand under the newspaper.

It’s not inflamed, it looks like a liver spot...

[PhaelixWW]

Trump made his second unscheduled visit in less than a year to Walter Reed today. This time he had to be rushed there from the golf course. Based on photos he at least had an IV in his hand.

There's nothing that indicates that he actually went to Walter Reed today. I found one unsubstantiated tweet to that effect, but it was later deleted, and the line it was quoting was from an article about last year's unscheduled visit.

[Adam Jensen]

In case any of you Trump supporters and wondering about Trump's past racism:

A trump supporter asked, "Name one time trump was racist."
Okay:

*SNIP*

Oh sh*t, you said one time. Sorry, my bad.

Yeah but none of those count because they all go against my narrative.

[Breccia]

Stay safe, folks.

It's not going to be easy. We're seeing new studies saying children can spread the disease like...um...a disease. They are just less likely to become symptomatic cases or be hospitalized.

[Benggaul]

Check the hand under the newspaper.

Meh, could be a lot of things at his age. I'm actually more curious about what appears to be a bunch of white, bound document-type papers jammed in-between the newspapers. They could ALSO be a lot of things, of course, but they have a more "official" air about them.

It's not going to be easy. We're seeing new studies saying children can spread the disease like...um...a disease. They are just less likely to become symptomatic cases or be hospitalized.

Didn't we already know this? Kids are disease-riddled vermin. We at least already knew thanks to an earlier study that 10 and up can spread it as easily as adults.

[cubby]

It's not going to be easy. We're seeing new studies saying children can spread the disease like...um...a disease. They are just less likely to become symptomatic cases or be hospitalized.

Jesus...that's school opening and everyone getting it pretty quickly. No symptoms mean no testing. Sits with kids for a few weeks, getting passed around. Then teachers/admin get it - school's closed.

Stay safe indeed. See you in May.

[Deja Thoris]

Jesus...that's school opening and everyone getting it pretty quickly. No symptoms mean no testing. Sits with kids for a few weeks, getting passed around. Then teachers/admin get it - school's closed.

Stay safe indeed. See you in May.

Little sleeper agents with mucous factories producing full time. How can this end well?

[Breccia]

Didn't we already know this?

There's "know" and "have clinical proof".

[cubby]

Little sleeper agents with mucous factories producing full time. How can this end well?

I mean, this is probably the nightmare scenario for the [previously functioning but now politically gridlocked] CDC. Spread a pandemic around, verify kids can get it, then put them all back in school. Rinse, repeat - and then burn the bodies of the [much more vulnerable] adults in large piles outside of cities.

Not blaming kids/teachers/schools. We all know where the blame lies (and double entendre ftw).

This might be as bad as it can get.

[Benggaul]

There's "know" and "have clinical proof".

Nah, I was thinking of this from mid-July. Fantastic to hear it's even worse than previously thought.

[cubby]

Sorry, my friend showed me and I posted and then used the bathroom. Give me a minute and I’ll show the picture.

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Check the hand under the newspaper.

I think your friend got some bad info. No way this could be a secret and not be all over the news right now. No one is reporting. Not digging on you, to be clear - just looks like a false report. Got my hopes up, too.

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Nah, I was thinking of this from mid-July. Fantastic to hear it's even worse than previously thought.

And after it decimates the school teachers/admins, no one is going to open schools again until post vaccine. Plus, medical professionals are already at the breaking point in some states.

[Breccia]

The RNC vote to nominate Trump will be held in private and live-streamed. It will not be held in a packed crowd.

[cubby]

The RNC vote to nominate Trump will be held in private and live-streamed. It will not be held in a packed crowd.

Interesting takeaway:

The vote to renominate President Donald Trump is set to be conducted in private later this month, without members of the press present, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Convention, citing the coronavirus.

If the GOP decision stands, it will mark the first party nominating convention in modern history to be closed to reporters.

The party of transparency can't even live-stream their nomination of der Fuehrer.

[Benggaul]

Interesting takeaway:


The party of transparency can't even live-stream their nomination of der Fuehrer.

My guess is it's because they're expecting more dissent from within than they'd care to admit to the public.

[Breccia]

So once again, it's time for Guess the Tweeter!

We have more cases because we have tested far more than any other country, 60,000,000.

If we tested less, there would be less cases. How did Italy, France & Spain do? Now Europe sadly has flare ups. Most of our governors worked hard & smart. We will come back STRONG!

"Sigh."

Correct, it's Trump.

The US has about 25% of the cases in the world, and about 25% of all the deaths in the world, to the lethal outbreak now so disproportionately common in the US that calling it "CHINA VIRUS CHINA VIRUS CHINA VIRUS" is as honest as saying they eat more frankfurters in Frankfurt than America, by claiming that Americans eat hot dogs so it doesn't count.

But it's been a day or two, so let's open it up to another 24 hour challenge. Because cases/deaths are roughly proportional in the US (about 25% of the world each) there are only a few possible outcomes.

1) Trump is lying.

2) Trump is telling the truth, and our caseload is higher because of increased testing. But this also means we have a disproprotionately high death rate, because other countries didn't test as many people and therefore had fewer cases than they would have, if they tested like the US did. This would lower their death rate, since they'd have more cases but the same number of deaths.

3) There is no option three. Trump didn't allow one by, for example, saying "deaths are inflated because rogue doctors are blaming suicides and heart attacks to COVID-19". Therefore you may not invent an alternate scenario to this challenge. Sorry. I don't make the rules, even in my own challenges -- Trump supporters must follow Trump's rules. (Non-Trump-supporters are allowed to add other options)

I will point out, however, the real risk of attempting one of my challenges is the sheer number of previous challenges that Trump supporters have failed. Just to use a name at random, @lockedout has avoided this thread for some time, but he has posted during the time of my previous challenge, and also has posted in other threads. Therefore, he has failed to rebuke Trump for suggesting pushing back the election, and by doing so has admitted he wants to delay the election. Also he has admitted he is a coward, but with the other missed challenges, that's now proven a dozen times over. It's not the strategy I would have gone with myself, but let's face it, Trump supporters are increasingly low on options. "I cannot defend Trump and I am a coward" seems to be something they're more willing to admit in public than "Trump is lying and I am willing to say that Trump lied".

Hell, at this point, we're seeing reports of people who would literally rather die than say Trump is wrong. I'm not even talking about Cain, not primarily. I'm talking about the people who are demanding packed classrooms for their children. Deaths are over 1,000 a day and it's still early August. If schools are being forced to host packed classrooms of children in record-setting case/deaths states, then late Sept/all of Oct, we're going to see the complaints magically shift from "I want my kids in packed classrooms so I can work" to "now I have to keep my kids home because all the teachers are sick" to "my babysitter died".

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My guess is it's because they're expecting more dissent from within than they'd care to admit to the public.

I find that unlikely. One, Trump will hear about any dissent and throw a Trumper Tantrum. We'll find out. Two, I think they'll still broadcast it on TV, I don't know why @cubby said it wouldn't be. Three, there is no point of dissent anymore. Trump insisted he run unopposed, and the GOP is now the Party of Trump. Four, the lethal outbreak that killed Herman Cain is enough of a reason to remove the public -- they don't need a secret ulterior motive, "I don't want to die" is enough.