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    President Trump and first lady Melania Trump have both requested mail-in ballots for the upcoming Florida primaries despite the president's frequent criticism of mail-in ballot systems. https://t.co/OFa6Hyj9gy https://t.co/94FBmNBCm2
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...197637121?s=19

    Okay, we can make fun of the hypocrisy but Trump is trying to steal this election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Soo... it looks like tRump is bringing back the good 'ol birtherism. I have nothing to comment that doesn't get me banned.
    Her father is Jamaican American.
    Her mother is Tamil Indian American.

    And she's born in Oakland California.

    By law, she is a citizen and eligible to be President. It should not be up for question, at all.

    So yeah . . . birtherism is basically the belief that brown people can't be Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    What you've described is textbook "daddy didn't love me".
    Well, at least according to his niece, He did not. At least not in the loving and caring way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Soo... it looks like tRump is bringing back the good 'ol birtherism. I have nothing to comment that doesn't get me banned.
    Lindsey Graham does.

    there is no issue as to whether or not she is an American citizen
    This should be the end of the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferly View Post
    WaPo is reporting that the 2 top DHS officials are not legally eligible to serve in their roles.
    One of them is the head of the DHS. This can have huge repercussions because any order the HEAD OF THE DHS has given are by default unlawful/invalid now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    This can have huge repercussions because any order the HEAD OF THE DHS has given are by default unlawful/invalid now.
    Says who? Show me how exactly your so called "checks and balances" are working out? Who's enforcing them? What have been the consequences of this administration breaking the law? Show me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Says who? Show me how exactly your so called "checks and balances" are working out? Who's enforcing them? What have been the consequences of this administration breaking the law? Show me.
    ^ This.

    If no body bothers to enforce anything while he's doing this shit, then waiting until afterwards (if ever) is entirely pointless. Because the damage will have been done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Her father is Jamaican American.
    Her mother is Tamil Indian American.

    And she's born in Oakland California.

    By law, she is a citizen and eligible to be President. It should not be up for question, at all.

    So yeah . . . birtherism is basically the belief that brown people can't be Americans.
    The racist pieces of shit will pull this crap on any person of color whenever they run for president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pathora44 View Post
    The racist pieces of shit will pull this crap on any person of color whenever they run for president.
    Exactly. That's why it's a belief that brown people can't be American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Says who? Show me how exactly your so called "checks and balances" are working out? Who's enforcing them? What have been the consequences of this administration breaking the law? Show me.
    Well you see, the US Senate will vote to impeach anyone who . . . AH HA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHA . .. . *sobs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    ^ This.

    If no body bothers to enforce anything while he's doing this shit, then waiting until afterwards (if ever) is entirely pointless. Because the damage will have been done.
    Well in theory protesters who are arrested now have a huge cudgel to use in court. If the people who arrested them were directed there by the DHS head then they were following invalid orders so a lot of qualified immunity type stuff should not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Lindsey Graham does.



    This should be the end of the discussion.
    This is the Trump era.

    It won't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    Well in theory
    In practise, your laws are toilet paper when the powers that be refuse to enforce them against one of their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Lindsey Graham does.



    This should be the end of the discussion.
    Not really, because as usual, it isn't the discussion it pretends to be. They aren't arguing that Kamala Harris wasn't born in California, they are arguing that Harris cannot be "American" because "Americans" are white. That is really all there is too it, no minority will ever be eligible for President in their eyes, because they hold a deeply rooted belief that only White People can be truely American.

    It is just all ethno-nationalist crap. They are literally saying that a brown person born in California can't be President because her parents aren't white. Nothing Lindsey Graham or anyone else says is going to end that conversation, but Donald Trump is immoral enough to fan the flames of that "discussion" for his own ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferly View Post
    WaPo is reporting that the 2 top DHS officials are not legally eligible to serve in their roles.
    We've known Cuccinelli was illegally the Acting head of CIS since March when federal courts ruled on it - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/u...-services.html

    We're 6 months later and nothing has happened.

    I doubt a reminder about him being illegally in that position, and the unsurprising news that Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf is similarly illegally holding that position, will have any consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferly View Post
    WaPo is reporting that the 2 top DHS officials are not legally eligible to serve in their roles.
    NEWS: GAO has concluded that Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf and Acting Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli were invalidly appointed and are *ineligible* to serve in their current roles. https://t.co/tH8XzKOYxV
    https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...739595264?s=19

    Umm Cuccinelli was known. Didn't he try to get the head DHS spot? He was not qualified so they made up the position he is now I believe.

    Well, this is business as usual were Trump appoints unqualified people, generally not Congress approved.

    I always say I would love to see a Dem President do this. Yet, I believe the GOP knows the Dems wouldn't pull this. Not that the Democrats are angels, they are just not that scummy.

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    JUST IN: Dem senator demands answers from Postmaster General on reports of mailbox removals across Montana https://t.co/mgstImadLp https://t.co/4nk8Xny42G
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...223833600?s=19

    Guess stealing our election is not worth a thread. So I'll post here and link my thread just for the 2 posts.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post52569859
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    This mail in ballot thing is hilarious because all it will do is keep old people from voting.

    Younger "progressives" tend to show up

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    HUGE SCOOP IN PA. The postal service is now telling state officials in Pennsylvania -- the most critical swing state in November's election -- that it can't deliver the mail quickly enough for the current vote by mail plan. This is a 9-alarm fire, folks https://t.co/GcuboyQj97
    https://twitter.com/Will_Bunch/statu...208278531?s=19

    Trump is trying to steal the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...223833600?s=19

    Guess stealing our election is not worth a thread. So I'll post here and link my thread just for the 2 posts.
    Montana is a GOP State. I would think if it was done as a form of voter suppression they'd exclude their own base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    This mail in ballot thing is hilarious because all it will do is keep old people from voting.

    Younger "progressives" tend to show up
    Mayyyyybe not during a deadly pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Montana is a GOP State. I would think if it was done as a form of voter suppression they'd exclude their own base.
    The GOP hurts itself in its confusion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Montana is a GOP State. I would think if it was done as a form of voter suppression they'd exclude their own base.

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    Mayyyyybe not during a deadly pandemic.
    Montana leans Trump but is not solid Trump. I understand where people are saying Trump is doing the whole "mutual mass destruction" thing. That may be true, since this is Trump we are talking about. I do not believe people should blow this off.

    As I stated in my thread that not one thing will change the election but many. Closing postal service may affect Republicans, but at less than Democrats? Could be, idk the stats. We have the whole voter suppression thing here. Closing of polls in high urban or minority places make mail in more convenient. The strategy maybe to suppress the whole thing but hope enough Trump supporters still vote.

    Yes, he is taking gasoline to the situation, but probably a desperate move that he has left.
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