Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Thekri]

My serious advise to anyone in the US that is afraid of this happening. Start looking into emigration, just incase.

Umm... bye I guess. I don't see much point in running, if you want to make the world a better place, you don't just run from the nastiness. I fully intend to stay no matter what. There is a fight worth winning here, and we are winning. If we run away, we won't win obviously, lol.

[Paranoid Android]

USPS warns 46 states, DC that delayed mail-in ballots could disenfranchise voters - The Washington Post

https://t.co/q1cNsXsjF6

https://twitter.com/DavidJollyFL/sta...076288002?s=19

Hey this is the US President trying subvert our American Democracy. No really he is trying to make sure people can't vote or their vote don't count.

[Benggaul]

Already planning to start looking for jobs in Canada. The border is like a day's drive north.

If Canada is allowing Americans in at that point. Right now they aren't thanks to the US's COVID-19 problem.

[Adam Jensen]

If Canada is allowing Americans in at that point. Right now they aren't thanks to the US's COVID-19 problem.

Yeah that's kind of a problem.

[TigTone]

Ugh as if this year wasn’t bad enough. The Rs are going full speed ahead to destroy this country and take over fully.

While those against them just call them out and expose them but dont actually punish them to stop them in their tracks.

[Benggaul]

Yeah that's kind of a problem.

It's supposed to expire before the end of the month so you might be in luck...but it can always be renewed.

[Felya]

It's supposed to expire before the end of the month so you might be in luck...but it can always be renewed.

I bet it’s tough to get a job as a sheep herder in New Zealand, with just IT experience... hmm...

[Benggaul]

I bet it’s tough to get a job as a sheep herder in New Zealand, with just IT experience... hmm...

What really hurts is that it's been a dream of mine for literal decades to move to New Zealand to live out the second half (hopefully?) of my life and I just don't ever see that happening now. Not just because Americans are pretty much persona non grata worldwide now but because they've no doubt tightened their immigration proceedings in part due to COVID-19 but also due to the happenings on the world stage.

[cubby]

What really hurts is that it's been a dream of mine for literal decades to move to New Zealand to live out the second half (hopefully?) of my life and I just don't ever see that happening now. Not just because Americans are pretty much persona non grata worldwide now but because they've no doubt tightened their immigration proceedings in part due to COVID-19 but also due to the happenings on the world stage.

I think you'll be able to do it, you'll just need to jump through some more hoops. They are letting people into the country, you just have to quarantine for (I think) 21 days upon arrival.

[kaid]

Okay this is a pretty hilarious ad I was curious how long it would be for somebody to string this stuff together in an attack ad.

[JohnBrown1917]

Okay this is a pretty hilarious ad I was curious how long it would be for somebody to string this stuff together in an attack ad.

You know its gonna be fun when videos by Neo-cons start being posted.

[Felya]

You know its gonna be fun when videos by Neo-cons start being posted.

Why is that?

[Benggaul]

It’s likely to be renewed until we get our shit together.

That was the implication, yes. I expect the end of August/beginning of September will start seeing precipitous spikes again.

[unfilteredJW]

Umm... bye I guess. I don't see much point in running, if you want to make the world a better place, you don't just run from the nastiness. I fully intend to stay no matter what. There is a fight worth winning here, and we are winning. If we run away, we won't win obviously, lol.

Felt this for a while.

Then Covid happened. Turns out everyone around me is a selfish cunt.

Time to go.

[Drutt]

Umm... bye I guess. I don't see much point in running, if you want to make the world a better place, you don't just run from the nastiness. I fully intend to stay no matter what. There is a fight worth winning here, and we are winning. If we run away, we won't win obviously, lol.

There's no fight to win if democracy is subverted, because nothing you do or say matters. If he's willing to steal an election and no one stops him, I don't see anyone moving to stop him from moving for a third+ term either.

Unless you're willing to pull out a gun and start shooting, of course.

If Trump does steal the election, I fully expect to see the secession of the blue states. It's a better option than another violent civil war.

[Adam Jensen]

It's supposed to expire before the end of the month so you might be in luck...but it can always be renewed.

Well the real luck is that the situation in the US doesn't get so shitty that I feel like I have to leave.

[Zan15]

https://twitter.com/DavidJollyFL/sta...076288002?s=19

Hey this is the US President trying subvert our American Democracy. No really he is trying to make sure people can't vote or their vote don't count.

Best part is you can't even get a 2A nut to comment on it at all. All that boasting about protecting our rights and constitution...but mums the word for voting!!!

[Benggaul]

Well the real luck is that the situation in the US doesn't get so shitty that I feel like I have to leave.

Honestly, as most people have been saying, Trump is the symptom of the underlying problem and one of the only saving graces of this administration is that he's too fucking stupid to do most of the shit he wants to. If Biden wins out in November he will be spending his entire term replacing all of the posts Trump appointed and trying to fix the problems he created...meaning the outlook on the States probably still isn't going to look much better for "progressives" after that term is up because there will be very little room for "progressive" ideals when everyone's just trying to piece the government back together again in some semblance of functionality.

People have short memories. If Biden wins this election there's absolutely zero guarantee another Trump doesn't come along in 2024 and take everyone back to the fucking stone age. I got out under Bush and Jesus fuck am I glad I did while I was able. Although now I can't even travel back to visit my family because then I'd be stuck in quarantine trying to leave to go back to work.

[wunksta]

Honestly, as most people have been saying, Trump is the symptom of the underlying problem and one of the only saving graces of this administration is that he's too fucking stupid to do most of the shit he wants to. If Biden wins out in November he will be spending his entire term replacing all of the posts Trump appointed and trying to fix the problems he created...meaning the outlook on the States probably still isn't going to look much better for "progressives" after that term is up because there will be very little room for "progressive" ideals when everyone's just trying to piece the government back together again in some semblance of functionality.

People have short memories. If Biden wins this election there's absolutely zero guarantee another Trump doesn't come along in 2024 and take everyone back to the fucking stone age. I got out under Bush and Jesus fuck am I glad I did while I was able. Although now I can't even travel back to visit my family because then I'd be stuck in quarantine trying to leave to go back to work.

Yeah it would basically require constant Democrat replacement at every level for years to come and hope that the GOP just dies off. Fixing gerrymandering has to be a priority.

[Benggaul]

Best part is you can't even get a 2A nut to comment on it at all. All that boasting about protecting our rights and constitution...but mums the word for voting!!!

They're all too busy celebrating because the NRA won a court case in California that allows them to carry larger magazines. *shrug*

- - - Updated - - -

60,600 new cases, about 3k fewer than last week.

California: 10,316 new cases; 152 deaths
Texas: 8,690 new cases; 233 deaths
Florida: 6,148 new cases; 229 deaths
Georgia: 3,227 new cases; 35 deaths
Illinois: 2,296 new cases; 27 deaths
Tennessee: 1,947 new cases; 13 deaths
Missouri: 1,427 new cases; 11 deaths
Louisiana: 1,298 new cases; 30 deaths
Virginia: 1,216 new cases; 7 deaths
Kansas: 1,192 new cases (new record); 4 deaths
Ohio: 1,126 new cases; 28 deaths
Nevada: 1,099 new cases; 15 deaths
Indiana: 1,067 new cases; 8 deaths
Wisconsin: 1,021 new cases; 7 deaths

California is still adding cases from the backlog as they said they would be and apparently it's going to be a long process as it all also has to go through at the county level to add demographic information. The problems with the system were so severe that it seems the state's Public Health director resigned as a result.

Florida hasn't gotten their shit together since packing up some temporary testing stations 2 weeks ago ahead of the storm, testing at about half what they were doing before then, so you can be sure their reported numbers aren't telling the full story. That's not stopping them from starting school on time, though. Fuck Florida.

Kansas is an odd one. Their reporting is, frankly, ridiculous. They seem to alternate daily between full and partial reports. Take their last five daily new cases numbers: 885, 93, 792, 123, 1192. The overall trend has definitely been increasing cases, but their silly reporting scheme is going to make it more difficult to pinpoint peaks and such.

Illinois also continues its slow increase. This isn't a new record for them, but it is the highest they've reached since May. This pattern is also present in several other states and is pretty representative of suburban spread, I think. When it hits cities it hits them hard and fast because everyone is packed together. Get it out into the suburbs and it appears to spreads slower...but it's seemingly inexorable. At any rate, cases are continuing overall to decline, but we see pretty clearly that it's still at threat in many areas.

Deaths were a bit lower than last week at 1,120, putting the US total at 171,535. Good chance we'll go back below 1k tomorrow as the weekend starts, but expect them to come right back up to 1k and above next week.

As has been pointed out by others, some schools have already started--and immediately packed back up because of outbreaks. Over 2,400 staff and students have either been infected or exposed in the past week or so, so that's gone swimmingly.

So, we've got COVID-19 still running rampant as we head into the school year, flu season approaching and probably the single most important election in our lifetimes while the post office is at its least reliable, meaning a lot of Americans are going to be forced to expose themselves and risk their health to exercise their right to vote. This TRUMP SHITSHOW needs to end, one way or another, before it ends us.

Stay safe, folks.