Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

Meanwhile on reddit they are defending her. She can't be blamed for her uncle, etc. etc.

Once again...sure. Why not.

Circle that, bookmark that, and be ready to bring it back up the second Hunter Biden's name is brought up.

[Felya]

Sorry, weird tangential metaphor based on the stupid WAP outrage.

Anna Chapman, one of the Russian spies that was traded for Skripal in 2010, is also a huge Trump advocate. She is also a model and social media influencer... I like to show what happens to Russian spies caught in US.

[Breccia]

McConnell finally crawls out to work on a Senate GOP relief bill, which will be $500-$700 billion and pretty much only have what he wants.

It has zero chance of passing the House. This is purely posturing. The idea still seems to be "we dare you Democrats to vote against this" to which the obvious reponse will be "of course we'll vote against this, it doesn't help the average American, we'll be proud to vote against this, we'll campaign on voting against this".

Just to remind everyone on the timeline:
1) Democrats wrote up something that's like $3 trillion or more.
2) McConnell said he wanted a much lower price tag, but still over $1 trillion.
3) Then McConnell gave up, and said "talk to the White House, if they don't agree there's no point" and just sat out for months. Plural. Months.
4) Pelosi went to the WH with a "meet in the middle" price tag of $2 trillion and change. Trump responded with even less than McConnell's offer. That's not negotiating. That's actively discouraging negotatiion.
5) Trump then tried to act like the hero with executive orders, including unemployment boosts, which most states didn't take because they couldn't afford to. So that failed.
6) And now, McConnell is trying a bill even lower than Trump's insultingly low counteroffer.

Every single step the Party of Trump took was to say "we are trying to use less and less money" but this 100% translates into "and therefore we are trying to provide less and less help to Americans". Remember that job "growth" Trump bragged about for three months? CARES was in full force. That's all gone now. No relief, the job "growth" (rebranded recovery) slows or possibly stops -- don't forget, 1.4 million jobs was balanced by 800k+ new claims -- as the school year continues to create new cases.

Trump is in charge, and the fact remains, that any mark on his record becomes his responsibility. "I tried, but the Demorats --" is not a valid excuse to make when there's proof you're not trying in full view.

Leaders make results. Losers make excuses.

[Slant]

They are correct... the problem is optics and self awareness. She could literally have said... ‘talk to my uncle about what happens if Trump isn’t elected’...

No, she should could literally have shut the fuck up. If it wasn't for her uncle killing 3k people in those twin towers, nobody on the planet would know who she is or care even remotely what her crazy ass opinion is. It's a very dubious move to not only use the infamous reputation her family got to get attention for herself but also lean into it and go "oh and if you don't, 9/11 may make a comeback!"

I mean, that's beyond indefensible...

[Breccia]

Just going to throw this out there.

1) W allowed 9/11
2) Obama killed bin Laden.
3) The niece's opinion is not just contrary to existing evidence,, but also irrelevant.

[gondrin]

Anna Chapman, one of the Russian spies that was traded for Skripal in 2010, is also a huge Trump advocate. She is also a model and social media influencer... I like to show what happens to Russian spies caught in US.

Well, as punishment, they get to be one of the many Trump mistresses.

[arandomuser]

trump is very hard at work for the working people in ohio at those diner focus groups
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/philipp...ennifer-laude/
Trump personally campaigned for this person to be released, not focusing on the pandemic, or getting mitch to pass covid relief

i joke about the diner thing, but if your a realist that really is what they voted for, they dont care about the whole economic anxiety meme, they just want to punish social progressives.

this whole trans rights issue seems to be the #1 issue people go full fash over(now that the immigration wave is pretty much over), so as a matter policy to prevent the fash i do think maybe the left should just avoid talking about it all together, but cmon can we atleast draw the line at murder. what happened to all lives matter?

[Breccia]

Well, as punishment, they get to be one of the many Trump mistresses.

As we've seen, "take one for the team!" is now something every Trump supporter must now admit htey support. Oh, did I forget the 24 hour challenge for that? Fuck it, too late now.

[Benggaul]

I refuse to watch the propaganda today. Much obliged in advance to those posting the bullet points later.

[Elegiac]

I'll just leave this here...

https://english.alaraby.co.uk/englis...t0KgyT3Glow9_k



This is just... oh so yummy. The trifecta is complete. The US has abandoned its long time allies in favour of courting favors with Russia, North Korea and Al Quaida. This is so delicious. As far as plot twists go... touché, history. This is a good one. I did not see this coming for 2020 at all.

Enjoy your discussion of a traitor running the US.

Gretchen Wieners: “I don’t think my uncle, the inventor of Al Qaeda, would be very pleased to hear about this.”

[s_bushido]

The fucking gull to warn of another 9/11, by a Bin Laden relative if Trump is not elected, is precious...

...but...9/11 happened under a Republican president.

[Bodakane]

...but...9/11 happened under a Republican president.

So what!!!!!!!! At least the Repubs didn't train and arm them.......oh wait......

Yeah, ok but we had to train them to fight Russia our mortal enemy........oh wait....

[Crispin]

I mean, I'm not saying she's a radical Islamist. But her name still should disqualify her from commenting on US politics, if only out of respect for the victims her uncle caused.

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Meanwhile on reddit they are defending her. She can't be blamed for her uncle, etc. etc.

Yet Biden is blamed for his son somehow.

[rayvio]

guilt by association only covers people they don't like

[Slant]

Yet Biden is blamed for his son somehow.

What did his son do?

[Benggaul]

What did his son do?

Accepted a position he apparently wasn't qualified for, so the right is SCREAMING "nepotism!" while ignoring their own side. Again.

[SirBeef]

Accepted a position he apparently wasn't qualified for, so the right is SCREAMING "nepotism!" while ignoring their own side. Again.

There are really no qualifications to be on the board of directors of any company. I'm on the board if a local hospital. I knew jack shit about health care or hospitals, but I ran a successful business in the community.

[Slant]

Accepted a position he apparently wasn't qualified for, so the right is SCREAMING "nepotism!" while ignoring their own side. Again.

Like, are we talking something important here? He accepted a position as a surgeon with his only experience being playing the Mr. Surgeon boardgame? Or is this something laughable, like taking a PR position of some local state agency nobody gives a shit about because the biggest PR news in recent years has literally been "Yeah, on Mr. Andersons backyard a tree fell over!"

[Benggaul]

There are really no qualifications to be on the board of directors of any company. I'm on the board if a local hospital. I knew jack shit about health care or hospitals, but I ran a successful business in the community.

Which is why I put "apparently". It's the GOP's main bugbear. I couldn't care less.

Like, are we talking something important here? He accepted a position as a surgeon with his only experience being playing the Mr. Surgeon boardgame? Or is this something laughable, like taking a PR position of some local state agency nobody gives a shit about because the biggest PR news in recent years has literally been "Yeah, on Mr. Andersons backyard a tree fell over!"

The board for a Ukrainian natural gas producer. So really they're screaming "nepotism!" while at the same time trying to make various conspiracy theories fit around his position there. There's nothing there--they've looked--but that hasn't stopped them from trying to manufacture something for the past year or so. Most here speculate that that's what the "October surprise" from the GOP is going to be.

[Jotaux]

Like, are we talking something important here? He accepted a position as a surgeon with his only experience being playing the Mr. Surgeon boardgame? Or is this something laughable, like taking a PR position of some local state agency nobody gives a shit about because the biggest PR news in recent years has literally been "Yeah, on Mr. Andersons backyard a tree fell over!"

There's no real requirement for joining a board of directors. Generally they want people to compliment their leadership, like having a lawyer or accountant on the board. Hunter has been on other boards so I figure he was qualified enough.