Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[draynay]

I kinda feel like this might be something the military top brass should make a statement and get out ahead of. This is an unbelievably dangerous thing to say (even for a shitheel like Stone) given the current political climate. I know we have a few frequent posters in the thread with a military background and I’d love to get their take on it.

The Pentagon made a statement last month about it not being their job to enforce election results. It was in response to former military saying they should be prepared to escort Trump out of the White House should he defy election results. I don't know if they need to make any further statements in response to crackpots like Roger Stone.

[Noxx79]

The Pentagon made a statement last month about it not being their job to enforce election results. It was in response to former military saying they should be prepared to escort Trump out of the White House should he defy election results. I don't know if they need to make any further statements in response to crackpots like Roger Stone.

Honestly it really isn’t the military’s job unless he actually surmounts an insurrection. Everything about him not accepting the result of the election is a civilian matter.

The job leaves the person.

Assuming everything works right (right now I don’t see an issue, but that could change), even if trump barricades himself in the White House, he’s not president and it’s a civilian matter to get him out. If he glues himself to the west wing, the presidency moves to wherever Biden is. Any executive orders he makes will be ignored. Bills will not await his signature. Any laws he breaks should be investigated and handled by the FBI.

It’s actually dangerous for the military to have any authority on this. It breaks the idea that the military is headed by a civilian authority.

If any soldiers want to follow Trump instead of the president, that’s on the military, however. Otherwise completely civilian.

[arandomuser]

https://twitter.com/MattGarrahan/sta...52220325584896
just think these guys will decide the election

[postman1782]

https://twitter.com/MattGarrahan/sta...52220325584896
just think these guys will decide the election

What the actual fuck? Do these guys constantly listen to Rush or Hannity on AM radio and Fox News when they aren't working? Because everything they just said, is fucking batshit insane.

[D Luniz]

What the actual fuck? Do these guys constantly listen to Rush or Hannity on AM radio and Fox News when they aren't working? Because everything they just said, is fucking batshit insane.

yes, but its while they are working

[postman1782]

yes, but its while they are working

Yeah, I meant Rush and Hannity while they are working and Fox News when they aren't. Cuz that is how delusional they are.

[Joathen]

What the actual fuck? Do these guys constantly listen to Rush or Hannity on AM radio and Fox News when they aren't working? Because everything they just said, is fucking batshit insane.

They do. Story Time:

My wife and I started taking over her mothers' cabinetry business this year, business has been good and we've been the first people to actually help her run the company in years- unfortunately, her mother is a fanatic Trump supporter. Like, listens to OANN, Fox, Hannity, Limbaugh; all the talking heads who preach hysteria. In the two months she's started attending rallies, took out a 160k EIDL loan putting our vehicle fleet and warehouse as collateral- then spent 13k having TRUMP/PENCE decals applied to our fleet. She says if Trump wins reelection he'll erase all the debt. If Biden wins she's selling everything and declaring bankruptcy.

These people have abandoned all reason or logic, any sense whatsoever- they're a danger to themselves and everyone around them. We gave her a card to my wifes' personal account and she wracked up another 2k in Trump donations. While we're trying to get a house. So- so- so close to the brink, it's absolutely unfathomable.

[postman1782]

They do. Story Time:

My wife and I started taking over her mothers' cabinetry business this year, business has been good and we've been the first people to actually help her run the company in years- unfortunately, her mother is a fanatic Trump supporter. Like, listens to OANN, Fox, Hannity, Limbaugh; all the talking heads who preach hysteria. In the two months she's started attending rallies, took out a 160k EIDL loan putting our vehicle fleet and warehouse as collateral- then spent 13k having TRUMP/PENCE decals applied to our fleet. She says if Trump wins reelection he'll erase all the debt. If Biden wins she's selling everything and declaring bankruptcy.

These people have abandoned all reason or logic, any sense whatsoever- they're a danger to themselves and everyone around them. We gave her a card to my wifes' personal account and she wracked up another 2k in Trump donations. While we're trying to get a house. So- so- so close to the brink, it's absolutely unfathomable.

Wow, that is the most delusional thing I have ever heard. Trump and everything they have going, will not wipe out that debt. As that has nothing to do with Covid and has nothing to do with anything but stupidity. My stepdad wears a KAG hat once in a while and has a Trump 2016 sticker on his truck, but he has never been allowed to listen to AM radio or watch Fox News in the house. The problem is, he has dumbasses on Facebook that feed him racism and lies, and he believes it. My mom would probably cut off his balls if he ever tried to donate to him.

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Also, if I were you, and her mother did those donations based on your card, I would declare that fraudulent and sue, personally. I would never allow anyone to donate to a campaign, using my card if I didn't support them. Hell, eve if I supported them, I wouldn't allow someone else donate, using my account, in their name.

[Joathen]

Wow, that is the most delusional thing I have ever heard. Trump and everything they have going, will not wipe out that debt. As that has nothing to do with Covid and has nothing to do with anything but stupidity. My stepdad wears a KAG hat once in a while and has a Trump 2016 sticker on his truck, but he has never been allowed to listen to AM radio or watch Fox News in the house. The problem is, he has dumbasses on Facebook that feed him racism and lies, and he believes it. My mom would probably cut off his balls if he ever tried to donate to him.

Both of her daughters are telling her to delete Facebook because half her day is spent chain smoking and sharing insane shit on Facebook while listening to OANN full blast AT A ACTIVE JOB SITE. We've been stressing to her that she is going to tank this business because she's offending anyone with an even slightly liberal bend, she's done two jobs (3200 and ~4000) for free to Trump campaign staff because it's her "patriotic duty". She seriously started an "evil democrats" rant out at dinner when I told her other son in law (who owns his own business,) that if he was going to defer payroll taxes that he should save that amount for when it comes due: but of course that reality is "FAKE NEWSSSS."

It'd be funny- because the stereotypical pain in the ass Mother in Law; but she's seriously ratfucking the future of her daughter, myself- and even herself. This is also a woman who was registered Democrat until 2016. Voted for Obama twice. Now he's a communist Muslim terrorist bent on destroying America and legalizing pedophilia.

What. The. Fuck.

Edit: We ninja'd her copy of the card back, but she's since been using the company card and account to donate. And she doesn't even claim donations of any kind on her taxes so it's not like it's a elaborate big brain move. God my stomach aches just typing it all out, first time in almost a year I've posted but saw the posts above and just can't not lament. Wife and I keep our Facebooks sterile so we don't piss off either side because it's our fucking livelihood.

[postman1782]

Both of her daughters are telling her to delete Facebook because half her day is spent chain smoking and sharing insane shit on Facebook while listening to OANN full blast AT A ACTIVE JOB SITE. We've been stressing to her that she is going to tank this business because she's offending anyone with an even slightly liberal bend, she's done two jobs (3200 and ~4000) for free to Trump campaign staff because it's her "patriotic duty". She seriously started an "evil democrats" rant out at dinner when I told her other son in law (who owns his own business,) that if he was going to defer payroll taxes that he should save that amount for when it comes due: but of course that reality is "FAKE NEWSSSS."

It'd be funny- because the stereotypical pain in the ass Mother in Law; but she's seriously ratfucking the future of her daughter, myself- and even herself. This is also a woman who was registered Democrat until 2016. Voted for Obama twice. Now he's a communist Muslim terrorist bent on destroying America and legalizing pedophilia.

What. The. Fuck.

Yeah, I would hate to be in your shoes, but my step father voted Democrat until the Black guy won the nomination, has been Republican since. He is pretty racist, but he loves sports teams that are mostly minorities. But they whine if anyone kneels, cuz they don't listen to the actual reason for kneeling, they believe the racist narrative from people from Fox News and whatnot.

[postman1782]

Why does Trump keep making awards up? The latest is the "Bay of Pigs Award."

This man's brain is addled and sees anything it can as accolades.

I mean, who would want an award like that? Who would name an award like that?

[Bodakane]

Why does Trump keep making awards up? The latest is the "Bay of Pigs Award."

This man's brain is addled and sees anything it can as accolades.

Because his base eats it up.

[Thekri]

Why does Trump keep making awards up? The latest is the "Bay of Pigs Award."

This man's brain is addled and sees anything it can as accolades.

It goes on his shelf right next to his "Revolutionary War Airport Guard Award". Which was presented to him by Fredrick Douglas.

[Captain N]

I mean, who would want an award like that? Who would name an award like that?

An award named after a monumental failure? Seems like a legit award for the Trump Presidency.

[Thekri]

The Bay of Pigs thing is his mental deterioration causing confusion, as per usual. He was endorsed by the Bay of Pigs Vets Association in 2016 and now thinks they gave him an award.

I am confused as to how they aren't all losers and suckers. Doesn't he like invasions that don't fail? How is he shitting on people in the graveyards of Normandy, and trumpeting Bay of Pigs like it was the greatest victory ever?

(Note: I am not saying they are losers or suckers, or anything disparaging about the group of veterans of it, just commenting on the inconsistent logic of it all)

[Belize]

Why does Trump keep making awards up? The latest is the "Bay of Pigs Award."

This man's brain is addled and sees anything it can as accolades.

Next up, the "9/11 Award" and the "Pearl Harbor Award"!

[Benggaul]

Around 32k new cases and 392 deaths. The total is now 198,520. Wisconsin has AGAIN posted a new record at 1,582 new cases, so I'm fairly sure it can't just be attributed to the holiday lull last week any longer. North Dakota posted their second-highest total (highest was yesterday). Not great news considering it's the weekend.

Sorry this is brief, but I was busy watching a whole cast of my heroes reuniting to do a table read of The Princess Bride to benefit Wisconsin Democrats and it's not like there's usually much to analyze from Sunday reports anyway.

Stay safe, folks.

[beanman12345]

An award named after a monumental failure? Seems like a legit award for the Trump Presidency.

A monumental failure that many Cuban American's to this day still hate democrats for no less. Not that his grasp on history or that he cares about the reason he was endorsed by the association, because he doesn't care about them at all.

[Twdft]

When you join the military you take an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.

So does the president... but swearing an oath doesn't hinder him ignoring the constitution.

[Gorsameth]

So does the president... but swearing an oath doesn't hinder him ignoring the constitution.

With all the bullshit Trump has pulled I don't see them supporting him in a coup d'état.
From abandoning US allies in Libya, assaults on veterans, the bounties on US soldiers in Iraq by Putin, ect ect.

Even without all that baggage it wouldn't be happening.