Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[DocSavageFan]

Yes such a tool exists. Is it used to "rake" the forests? Is it a routine thing they do with it? Are there fleets of them?

Best I can find is a blog trying to argue that because they're used to gather up debris following a clearcut it's somehow proof that Finland "rakes" their forests.

Ignoring that they actually do controlled burns, which are trickier in the US due to federal laws and regulations, which are actually the best method to manage forests to limit fire risk while promoting biodiversity necessary to a healthy forest.

The solution is forest management...which was Trump's point. Raking is one of many techniques.

https://www.heartland.org/news-opini...innish-forests

[Felya]

The solution is forest management...which was Trump's point. Raking is one of many techniques.

Trump was asked what his solution was to climate change. Raking isn’t one of the techniques, nor is it the only one. It’s also not a technique that is recommended by the very people that Trump is using as reference. What is required, is surveillance and a network to handle these. Something that federal government is responsible for, since most of the forests are federal land... regardless of which, letting California burn as you blame forest management is not a solution.

[some guy]

In today's what he meant was:

Raking the forest = forest management.

For Trump being such a plain speaking, says it like it is person, people sure need to explain what he means all the time.

[Felya]

https://www.heartland.org/news-opini...innish-forests

Uhm... I responded to that before you even said it. Don’t you think that’s funny? ‘Cmon... you got to admit it’s funny?

[Felya]

In today's what he meant was:

Raking the forest = forest management.

For Trump being such a plain speaking, says it like it is person, people sure need to explain what he means all the time.

At least Pence didn’t call him self president, before immediately correcting him self! That’s something to be mad at!! The president of US speaking nonsense, so he can play golf while west coast burns... what he meant was...

Air still unhealthy in Seattle... really feels like an America problem, not a California problem. Can we get a president that will do something other than play golf and tweet?

[solinari6]

For Trump being such a plain speaking, says it like it is person, people sure need to explain what he means all the time.

Who knew that all the jobs Trump was creating were in the "What he meant was ..." category?

[Felya]

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/heartland-institute/

The solution is to combat climate change.

I’m mis Cleo!!! Send me all your money!!! Every dollar makes the future of Trump winning clearer!!! Every dollar is a seed!!!

Make America Rake Again: Finland baffled by Trump's forest fire raking claim
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mp-forest-fire

Look up, there us the Finish discussing it, since that’s your next argument.

[Edge-]

The solution is forest management...which was Trump's point. Raking is one of many techniques.

https://www.heartland.org/news-opini...innish-forests

Eyyyy that's the blog post! That's it! The one that's doing the rounds trying to contradict the PM of Finland about how his own countries manage their forests.

Raking is not a technique, actually. Clearing foliage following a cutting can be considered "raking" in the most broad of terms.

There's truth in better forest management being needed, many have been saying that for a long time. But the federal government owns the majority of forest lands in CA, why isn't Trump directing the feds to clean up their forests?

[Felya]

There's truth in better forest management being needed, many have been saying that for a long time. But the federal government owns the majority of forest lands in CA, why isn't Trump directing the feds to clean up their forests?

He is busy supporting small business... such as this one:

https://trumpgolfcount.com/

[rayvio]

Starting to think other countries may need to invade the US to shut down these disgusting concentration camps. This is inhuman and everyone involved needs to go to trial for crimes against humanity.

I completely agree. this is an absolute abhorrence and if it turns out to be correct (which would surprise nobody) then everyone involved needs to be brought to justice

Sound of wind causes cancer, according to Trump.

oh please be true and not a joke (it's honestly hard to tell with all the insanity he spews out), the irony of his name with that...

[Felya]

oh please be true and not a joke (it's honestly hard to tell with all the insanity he spews out), the irony of his name with that...

Your wish, is my command... still dig the face mask on the murloc...

Donald Trump's ridiculous link between cancer, wind turbines
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...nd-cancer-cla/

"If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value," Trump told his fellow Republicans April 2. "And they say the noise causes cancer."

We asked the White House for evidence that wind turbine noise causes cancer. We didn’t hear back.

Remember, Biden is senile...

[For_The_Horde]

Eyyyy that's the blog post! That's it! The one that's doing the rounds trying to contradict the PM of Finland about how his own countries manage their forests.

Raking is not a technique, actually. Clearing foliage following a cutting can be considered "raking" in the most broad of terms.

There's truth in better forest management being needed, many have been saying that for a long time. But the federal government owns the majority of forest lands in CA, why isn't Trump directing the feds to clean up their forests?

They're too busy trying to rig the election, dismantle the government, and forcibly sterilize interned peoples to care about California burning to the ground.

[DocSavageFan]

Eyyyy that's the blog post! That's it! The one that's doing the rounds trying to contradict the PM of Finland about how his own countries manage their forests.

Raking is not a technique, actually. Clearing foliage following a cutting can be considered "raking" in the most broad of terms.

There's truth in better forest management being needed, many have been saying that for a long time. But the federal government owns the majority of forest lands in CA, why isn't Trump directing the feds to clean up their forests?

The mismanagement problem has been in the making for 100 years. However, the US Forest Service has started using "controlled" or "prescribed" burning in recent years....something that should have been done a long time ago. Trump has increased funding for these efforts.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...udget_fy21.pdf

Supports Active Forest Management to Reduce Wildfire Risk.
The Administration remains committed to accelerating active forest management activities. The Budget reflects this critical priority by requesting $510 million for hazardous fuel mitigation work and $385 million for forest products. Hazardous fuel removal is pivotal in ensuring Federal forests and watersheds are sustainable, healthy, and productive, which would help make them safer and more resilient to the destructive impacts of wildfire. Consistent with the objectives and targets under the President’s Executive Order
13855, “Promoting Active Management of America’s Forests, Rangelands, and other Federal Lands to
Improve Conditions and Reduce Wildfire Risk,” the Forest Service will utilize the full range of available and appropriate forest management tools, including prescribed burns and mechanical thinning to strategically mitigate the fuel load on national forest land. These programs also generate jobs in rural forest communities.

In addition, the Budget fully funds base wildfire suppression operations pursuant to the Consolidated
Appropriations Act, 2018, which would be bolstered by $2.4 billion in additional suppression resources
under the wildfire cap adjustment. This funding aims to eliminate the need for disruptive “fire borrowing” from forest management programs to fund firefighting shortfalls during times of emergency

Supports Active Forest Management to Reduce Wildfire Risk.
The Administration remains unequivocal about the need to accelerate active forest management on Federal lands. The Budget
reflects this critical priority by requesting $228 million for DOI’s hazardous fuels mitigation work
and $177 million for DOI timber programs. Consistent with the objectives and targets under the
President’s Executive Order 13855, “Promoting Active Management of America’s Forests, Rangelands,
and other Federal Lands to Improve Conditions and Reduce Wildfire Risk,” to promote active forest
management, DOI will utilize the full range of available and appropriate forest management tools, including prescribed burns and mechanical thinning to mitigate fuel loads in order to lessen the risk of fire and maintain air quality. Together, these efforts help ensure that Federal lands are healthy and productive, and that rural communities are more resilient to the destructive impacts of wildfire. The
Budget responsibly funds wildfire suppression costs, including cap adjustment resources made available to DOI and the Forest Service for 2021.

[Rasulis]

The solution is forest management...which was Trump's point. Raking is one of many techniques.

https://www.heartland.org/news-opini...innish-forests

Since the Feds own and manage 57% of the forests in CA, and the state only control 3%, the Feds better start raking then. Almost all the current fires are in US Forest Service managed National Forests.

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The mismanagement problem has been in the making for 100 years. However, the US Forest Service has started using "controlled" or "prescribed" burning in recent years....something that should have been done a long time ago. Trump has increased funding for these efforts.

Mismanagement due to US Forest Service policy allowing for clear cutting of trees. This used to be common practice in Federal owned forest in the Sierra Nevada up to the 1990s. The follow up reforestation ended up creating patches of densely packed, single-species, same-aged, tree plantations with no natural firebreak. The old logging practices have altered a large portion of California native forests, transforming them into simplified forests of same-aged trees with a reduced ecological resilience. These disturbed stands are especially prone to wildfire and mortality due to beetle infestation and disease. It has also caused fragmentation and increased edge effect.

[Verdugo]

There are trees in that one, therefore, forest, right?

Most of them exploded already.

[DocSavageFan]

Most of them exploded already.

Firestorms and conflagrations are often compared to explosions in a rhetorical manner. English is hard.

Angeles National Forest fire explodes to almost 5,000 acres, sends ash far and wide
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...well-reservoir

[Verdugo]

Firestorms and conflagrations are often compared to explosions in a rhetorical manner. English is hard.

Did I ask you anything?

[DingDongKing]

[some guy]

Just gotta keep twisting words to try to find some way that Dotard Donnie is correct.

[Belize]

Most of them exploded already.

Little known fact that most trees contain massive amounts of nitroglycerin, and so when they fall over they violently explode, showering the area with burning woodchips.