1. #53901
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    How very fascist of you.
    The joke's on him. I moved out more than a decade ago. The thing is, I still get to have an opinion and vote since I'm still a citizen and care about what happens to friends/family/good people there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Vote as early as you possibly can, folks, and track your mail-ins where available:

    Postal Service overhauls leadership as Democrats press for investigation of mail delays



    Trump and his lackey DeJoy are doing EVERYTHING they can to ratfuck the process.
    Christ, we're going to have to scrub every institution we have clean of this ratfuckery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    I'd say it's a mistake by Cuomo. But in character for him.

    All it takes is for one case to wreck everything. My company (Seattle) was doing great, no cases. But some geniuses from corporate (Chattanooga) insisted on visiting. Well one of them just tested positive. So the 30+ people that met with them have all been sent home to quarantine for 2 weeks.
    Great...
    Corporate has also been insisting a V shaped recovery is coming!
    There's so many great mods that really redeem ME3.
    This is why I’m glad Pelosi isn’t backing down over opposing liability protections.

    Every single business owner, CEO, board member, and manager that was complicit in helping to facilitate this crisis needs to be sued into bankruptcy. And I’d be pretty happy if quite a few suits went to prison over it too.
    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    The video did exactly say what my statments were, it went through how Europe built its empires and I've only ehoed it, don't comment unless you bothered watching the video.
    First of all, people don't have to be required to watch a video to know that some of your statements were wrong. Second, I did watch the entire video, which is how I know that it doesn't support all of your statements.


    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    Not that it has anyrelvence to the topic of the video I just posted, if ad hominim is you're only defence of trump then good luck with the election bud.
    It's funny that you think the poster you're responding to is attempting to defend Trump simply because they rebuked you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Meanwhile, how fucking bad are things in Arizona when Arpaio (yes, that racist, criminal shitbag) loses his bid for re-election by just one percent? The winner being his former deputy who is nearly as bad.
    Shit's fucked, Ollie. Hopefully the actual election goes much better. I really enjoy looking over my shoulder less without the Arpaio/Arpaio Jr. Crew running the show. Just have to watch for regular police brutality and not the really targeted kind.

    Broadly speaking, I don't think convicted criminals (at least ones who haven't served their time or otherwise turned a new leaf) should be in charge of anything justice related.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    This is America. We always have warm dead bodies.
    if we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaoBurning View Post
    Shit's fucked, Ollie. Hopefully the actual election goes much better. I really enjoy looking over my shoulder less without the Arpaio/Arpaio Jr. Crew running the show. Just have to watch for regular police brutality and not the really targeted kind.

    Broadly speaking, I don't think convicted criminals (at least ones who haven't served their time or otherwise turned a new leaf) should be in charge of anything justice related.
    Yeah, I thought being pardoned for his crimes still meant he wouldn't be allowed to seek office but apparently it's all okay so long as someone far enough up the ladder says so! Stay safe out there, friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    63,246 new cases; about 8k fewer than last Friday.

    California: 7,904 new cases; 188 deaths
    Florida: 7,686 new cases; 180 deaths (*looks at camera* *rolls eyes*)
    Texas: 7,675 new cases; 228 deaths
    Georgia: 4,109 new cases; 91 deaths
    Tennessee: 2,432 new cases; 20 deaths
    Illinois: 2,103 new cases; 31 deaths
    Virginia: 2,015 new cases (new record); 18 deaths
    North Carolina: 1,778 new cases; 43 deaths
    Alabama: 1,709 new cases; 21 deaths
    Louisiana: 1,500 new cases; 61 deaths
    South Carolina: 1,422 new cases; 19 deaths
    Arizona: 1,406 new cases; 79 deaths
    Indiana: 1,239 new cases (new record); 10 deaths
    Ohio: 1,204 new cases; 33 deaths
    Mississippi: 1,036 new cases; 23 deaths
    Arkansas: 1,011 new cases; 6 deaths

    Cases continue to drop off for the most part in the initial states and are still climbing in some secondary/tertiary states. You aren't seeing many new records listed above primarily because a lot of these states went through outbreaks early in April/May and haven't hit their highs from that period...yet. Many are hitting second- or third-highest totals. Virginia had a massive spike today. The number is going down nationally, but it's definitely not going away in many areas.

    Deaths are down by a couple hundred compared to last Friday, but it's still 1,290, putting the US at 164,094 deaths. Again, there don't seem to be many records being set--but they're coming awfully close in many states. Georgia, for example, seems to be increasing both in terms of new cases and deaths right as they're sending students back to school. Total TRUMP SHITSHOW.

    Stay safe, folks.
    Why after 30 years in San Diego, I still left my heart in San Francisco. For reference, although population wise SF only ranks 16, density wise it ranks second after NY.

    Rate of cases and deaths per 100,000 for top 20 US largest cities.



    How many fewer deaths cities would have had if their mortality rates matched SF’s.

    Last edited by Rasulis; 2020-08-08 at 08:08 PM.

  10. #53910
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Why after 30 years in San Diego, I still left my heart in San Francisco. For reference, although population wise SF only ranks 16, density wise it ranks second after NY.
    Overall California is doing very well compared to most other states with huge outbreaks. It may have the most cases, but it has the second-lowest deaths-per-million (259) out of the states in the top ten of cases second only to North Carolina (206) whose mortality numbers are climbing.

    There have been a couple of embarrassing counties fucking it up for everyone there and the HUGE, crowded population isn't helping the numbers, but comparatively speaking CA's been handling it.

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    Here's an interesting study: 35% of all Americans said they would refuse a COVID-19 vaccine.

    No, really.

    "Oh, you're going to assume it's the rabid fanbase, aren't you?"

    Well, Gallup did find the results by political party so...let's play a guessing game!

    81% of Democrats said they'd get the vaccine.

    59% of Independents said they'd get the vaccine.

    47% of Republicans said they'd get the vaccine.

    Guess which percent goes with which political party. Be honest, you were right, weren't you?

    I'd also like to ask the people who just played the guessing game above to compare
    a) the results of that game, and
    b) the states with the most of each party, and
    c) which states are pushing hardest for in-person classes.

    "Okay okay, enough about classes. We all know most schools don't have enough info to make the perfect decision. So until a college or university which happens to be the leading expert at the --"

    Johns Hopkins University goes fully online for the fall semester.

    "God dammit."

    You'll also be pleased to note that, in addition to announcing E.O.'s which even Trump says will immediately get him sued -- yes, Trump said that -- he also said the news about Russia/China/Iran attacking the election was completely --

    You’re telling me that this came out a little while ago, and I’ve heard that it came out. It came out just a little while ago, and we’re going to look at that very closely.
    Um, "I've heard that it came out"? Why didn't he hear it directly? These are his intelligence agencies. And no, we've known about Russians attacking the election since he asked for it, and got it.

    - - - Updated - - -

    So, the rumor I'm hearing is that Trump is going to not halt the payroll tax -- he can't do that -- but defer it, which he can do. Incidentally, Congress already allows employers to do this, so either this would be another thing Trump "does" which already exists, or would be passed to the individuals too.

    "Sweet, a payroll tax cut!"

    No no, deferred. You'd still owe the taxes.

    "Oh, well still, not paying taxes is not paying taxes! MAGA!"

    Okay, you'd still need to pay them. The CARES Act still requires payment of half the deferred taxes in 2021 and the other half in 2022. Businesses are probably capable of budgeting properly, but I'm a little worried about individuals who are already in trouble getting hammered in 2022 when they have to pay extra taxes on 2021's income...assuming they have it, of course. There are a lot of people out there who aren't great with their finances, and we call them "poor".

    "Well, at least the people who were unemployed in 2020 but get a job in 2021 will be okay."

    Um....

    "Oh for fuck's sake, what now?"

    Yeah, you have to pay income taxes on those. Yes, including the extra $600. So...yeah, deferring those taxes a year or two might spread out the problem, but it'd still be a problem.

    No details yet, this could be a false alarm.

  12. #53912
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I listened to it with the TV in a different room. The hooting and hollering from his idiot supporters at the club made me think the channel somehow got switched to a Married With Children episode.
    “Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.” -- Donald J. Trump, 2013

    "I don't take responsibility at all."
    -- Donald J. Trump, 2020

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    Last edited by Paranoid Android; 2020-08-08 at 10:14 PM.
    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States…. [It is] nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

    -Isaac Asimov

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunksta View Post
    Wanting to mine the grand canyon is just sickening.
    What?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    What?
    Came up a few times last year and then Trump brought it back up recently. Biden mentioned it in a recent tweet.

    President Donald Trump’s $1.5 billion proposal to prop up the country’s nuclear fuel industry has emboldened at least one company to take steps toward boosting operations at dormant uranium mines around the West, including outside Grand Canyon National Park.
    https://apnews.com/06d99ee066302f91dded79a83ea21b19

    New Trump Nuclear Plan Favors Uranium Mining Bordering the Grand Canyon
    The administration, seeking to restore America’s “competitive nuclear advantage,” also wants to create a $150 million uranium reserve in the coming decade.
    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/2...on-coronavirus

    The Trump administration is signaling a renewed push to consider uranium mining near the Grand Canyon, a move that would undoubtedly ignite a political fight involving environmentalists and the mining industry.

    The issue of lifting the mining moratorium near the Grand Canyon surfaced briefly last year when former Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, under pressure from conservationists, indicated he would not revisit the ban.

    “The Secretary has no intention to revisit uranium mining in and around the canyon and has made exactly zero moves to suggest otherwise,” former Interior spokeswoman Heather Swift tweeted at the time.

    However, Interior Secretary David Bernhardt, a former energy lobbyist whose clients included mining companies, has made no such pledge.
    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...r-grand-canyon

    Biden says he opposes uranium mining around Grand Canyon, citing importance to tribes
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...on/3322661001/

    Will likely be a big debate issue to swing voters.

  16. #53916
    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Yeah, I thought being pardoned for his crimes still meant he wouldn't be allowed to seek office but apparently it's all okay so long as someone far enough up the ladder says so! Stay safe out there, friend.
    Its the difference between a Pardon and Commuting a sentence.
    A Pardon effectively removes the consequences of conviction so he can vote or hold office.
    A commuted sentence means you don't have to serve time, but are still otherwise treated as having been convicted, so no right to vote or hold office.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  17. #53917
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    I listened to it with the TV in a different room. The hooting and hollering from his idiot supporters at the club made me think the channel somehow got switched to a Married With Children episode.
    He's found somewhere he can have one of his rallies that he so dearly misses. They hoot and holler when he attacks Biden or is rude to journalists, that's exactly what he wants with him, people reinforcing his childlike behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Its the difference between a Pardon and Commuting a sentence.
    A Pardon effectively removes the consequences of conviction so he can vote or hold office.
    A commuted sentence means you don't have to serve time, but are still otherwise treated as having been convicted, so no right to vote or hold office.
    Ugh, you know what, I knew that. Roger Stone's sentence, for example, was commuted. Thanks for setting me straight; there's so much shit to keep track of these past few years.

  19. #53919
    So, Dotard Tang signed some EOs and memoranda for... something. Can someone chime in? Because, as far as i know, this solves nothing, does nothing, and only counts as short term PR, that will fall out in a week, when the money isnt actually delivered.
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  20. #53920
    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    So, Dotard Tang signed some EOs and memoranda for... something. Can someone chime in? Because, as far as i know, this solves nothing, does nothing, and only counts as short term PR, that will fall out in a week, when the money isnt actually delivered.
    He defunded social security and medicare...

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