Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

It's apparently ok not to pay taxes for real estate until you sell them or something. And Trump has no other source of income. What a load of bullshit.

It is indeed. Trump claimed revenue of four hundred million dollars and didn't really pay taxes, likely continuing to accrue losses because he's a horrible businessman. No part of the NYTimes article said "Trump didn't pay taxes on real estate gains in value". It did mention the $72 million possibly fraudulent refund, but I forgot to mention, if Trump is forced to pay that back, he also pays interest, crossing eight zeroes on that bitch. Whoever Jim is didn't mention that, by any chance, did he?

[Kaleredar]

Strange. I went down the rabbit hole and discovered that tweet.

The problem with this is Trump makes most of his money from licensing fees. You can't roll that into real estate losses or depreciation.

Now this dude is once again speaking on bullshit loopholes that can be used. No doubt Trump has. Problem for people who cheer this for some reason will never benefit from these laws.

Unfortunately many Trump supporters see him being able to effectively circumvent the law as being a symbol of his “strength.”

[Breccia]

The panicked tweets from Trump

*WARNING WARNING WARNING*

Burying the fucking lead, UD! Trump said the taxes were illegally obtained. That means they're real.

I'm tempted to end my challenge early, since Trump just flat-out admitted they were real. But he might change his mind, so not yet. But, um, this does kind of restrict the answers people can give, doesn't it?

Remember: nobody on these forums is to respond to any Trump supporter in any way, unless they first address the question on if the NYTimes tax returns are real or not. If they don't answer, they are to be ignored and shamed until they answer. Or until the debate, at which point they admit they're cowards -- doubly so this time since Trump answered the question in public.

And again, he keeps hiding behind fiscal disclosures, which as many of us have already said, don't disclose taxes paid or actual values of anything.

[cors8]

Unfortunately many Trump supporters see him being able to effectively circumvent the law as being a symbol of his “strength.”

If you replaced "Trump" with "Clinton" though, they'd be foaming at the mouth. I think it's complete bullshit he paid so little legally. That's why it's imperative we see the full tax returns so experts can actually go through it.

[Adam Jensen]

Some perspective, and hypocrisy:

AOC Condemns 'Misogynistic' Republicans for Not Criticizing Trump's $70K Hairstyling Write-Off While Attacking Her $250 Haircut

Trump pays more for his hair than I get paid in a year, Republicans are fine with it. AOC spends $250 on a haircut on a birthday splurge? Outrage from members of congress.

[Jotaux]

Some perspective, and hypocrisy:

AOC Condemns 'Misogynistic' Republicans for Not Criticizing Trump's $70K Hairstyling Write-Off While Attacking Her $250 Haircut

Trump pays more for his hair than I get paid in a year, Republicans are fine with it. AOC spends $250 on a haircut on a birthday splurge? Outrage from members of congress.

Thats an expensive toupee!

Honestly it's crazy how much women have to spend for a haircut. A lot of women have told me $250 is normal for a birthday splurge and here I am not wanting to spend more than $20.

Wtf kind of haircut are you getting for 70k?

[Breccia]

Oh, and Trump just tweeted that Biden refused the drug test. I hope he's telling the truth. Trump doesn't set the rules this time.

Trump lost every single debate against Clinton, and Biden is not just more experienced by a verbal brawler. Plus, taxes. Trump has three choices:
1) Bring carefully-crafted cherry-picked facts Biden doesn't know yet to try to win the debate on the merits.
2) Do his usual thing and get thrashed like a Mar-a-Lago "shithole" review
3) Declare "rigged" and not show up.

1) The smart move is 1. Some objectively higher numbers did happen in Trump's tenure. If he says "before the China virus, XXX" he could get some half-decent XXX's. Not great -- jobs, economy, those weren't all that great, and Biden is sure to respond "Yes but Obama did better" to half of those. Correctly. That's why Trump needs to dig around for less common facts that make him look good, to which Biden won't have a direct response. This is not his usual method at all, and it'd require him to have a bunch of things he's never heard before memorized in the next 24 hours and change, but it's his only chance.

2) With no live studio audience, there's no crowd to play off. And the moderators are likely VERY well armed to challenge Trump on blatant, objective falsehoods. Lesser lies might still slide, but if Trump says "2020 has the best GDP!" that won't get through.

3) Trump is certainly setting the stage for fleeing like a fucking coward, something he can try to spin as "rigged". Again, this is a dumb fucking move, but worse now somehow. Nobody, not even the rabid fanbase, will believe that this massive bombshell of "Trump is a tax fraud felon" and Trump's refusal to appear in public will be unrelated.

My guess? Trump will be a complete #2. He'll be convinced that fleeing will be the worst option (that's correct) and he'll think he can take Biden (he can't).

[Felya]

Burying the fucking lead, UD! Trump said the taxes were illegally obtained. That means they're real.

I don’t know, saying he is entitled to not pay any taxes is a good one... as GOP targets entitlements...

[Adam Jensen]

I don’t know, saying he is entitled to not pay any taxes is a good one... as GOP targets entitlements...

"These immigrants come to our country and get all these benefits and don't pay taxes!!!!!" - right wing screeches heard over the past few decades

[kaid]

I have always kinda wondered who Barron's biological daddy is...

The above notion of Ivanka being the VP candidate is the first taste of what will come if Trump steals the 2020 election. We'll see him on the ballot as VP, with his children running at President (there are no term limits to VP).

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Whoop-si-daisies!

Thoughts and prayers, Brad!

I was wondering what triggered his implosion last night not to shocking it was something like this.

[Paranoid Android]

If you replaced "Trump" with "Clinton" though, they'd be foaming at the mouth. I think it's complete bullshit he paid so little legally. That's why it's imperative we see the full tax returns so experts can actually go through it.

Go back to the 2016 Mega Election thread. Many attacked the Clinton Foundation as some corrupt tax haven. Now since I'm a Woke Independent possibly, but that is another story or maybe not.

Now silence. The basic frenzy of what they projected on Clinton is what Trump is almost guilty. In this bubble and the other bubbles they don't care.

[Adam Jensen]

Go back to the 2016 Mega Election thread. Many attacked the Clinton Foundation as some corrupt tax haven. Now since I'm a Woke Independent possibly, but that is another story or maybe not.

Now silence. The basic frenzy of what they projected on Clinton is what Trump is almost guilty. In this bubble and the other bubbles they don't care.

The projection is so bad, that if news broke that Trump was running a sex ring in the basement of a pizzeria, I would not even be shocked anymore.

[Felya]

If you replaced "Trump" with "Clinton" though, they'd be foaming at the mouth. I think it's complete bullshit he paid so little legally. That's why it's imperative we see the full tax returns so experts can actually go through it.

Trump was saying Clinton charity was corrupt for taking Saudi money, as he literally was bragging that he has a good relationship with Saudis, because they spent 100s of millions on his condos. At no time did Hillary or any democrat in office, has taken so much money from Saudis for purely personal gain. It’s probably why no one other than Trump sent 2000 US troops to protect their oil...

[Paranoid Android]

I'm going to enjoy all the Trumpsters trying to justify Trump being a welfare queen.

Yeah right! They will hide in their holes until Trump is nominated for Dog Catcher of the Year.

I stated maybe a couple weeks ago that when they pop up we hit him with a truly important story such as Trump trashing troops. All Trumpkins in here were silent.

Whatever kool-aid they drink they know when to hide like rats in their holes.

[Felya]

The projection is so bad, that if news broke that Trump was running a sex ring in the basement of a pizzeria, I would not even be shocked anymore.

More interestingly, QAnon wouldn’t care... they only care about Trump.

[solinari6]

2) With no live studio audience, there's no crowd to play off. And the moderators are likely VERY well armed to challenge Trump on blatant, objective falsehoods. Lesser lies might still slide, but if Trump says "2020 has the best GDP!" that won't get through.

Pretty sure the moderator, Chris Wallace, said he's not going to be fact checking anyone.

[Adam Jensen]

Pretty sure the moderator, Chris Wallace, said he's not going to be fact checking anyone.

Then he can get the fuck out and be replaced by someone who will.

[Paranoid Android]

a refresher video explaining America's tax code.



Haha. Okay I stole this from Twitter. Here is the link.

https://twitter.com/nxthompson/statu...003464714?s=19

Alright last one.

News clip of fans celebrating Miami Heat into the NBA Finals.

Reporter interviewing a fan with his mask off and she asks him to responsibly put on his mask. He puts it on and says:

Fuck Trump!

She walks away and apologizes.

https://twitter.com/ananavarro/statu...830358530?s=19

[Machismo]

Yeah right! They will hide in their holes until Trump is nominated for Dog Catcher of the Year.

I stated maybe a couple weeks ago that when they pop up we hit him with a truly important story such as Trump trashing troops. All Trumpkins in here were silent.

Whatever kool-aid they drink they know when to hide like rats in their holes.

At the end of the day, all of this mud against Trump means nothing to them. Trump could do literally anything, and they'd still support him. That's life inside of a cult.

I'm reminded of my mother, a woman who once beat a man with a wrench so badly that he was in a coma. He had sexually assaulted a woman in a bar bathroom (allegedly). That same woman has since called all of Trump's and Kavanaugh's accusers lying whores, and even mocked her own niece's retelling of her own sexual assault.

The same woman who swears she loved kids, laughed at the idea of kids dying while crossing the border, because it would mean less people coming here.

So, none of this means anything to them,

[swiftowner]

Oh god, just lol’ed. Someone commented, “I also love that Trump paid more for sex in 2016 than taxes this decade”