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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Fact: Americans pay far less in taxes than most developed western countries. You, as usual, have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Also, being responsible for others is part of what a society is. Don't like it? Go live in a fucking cave somewhere and stop benefiting from society.
    Or go live in a stateles capitalist society... You know.. Like current somalia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Boy wouldn't it just be a chad move if Biden just agreed to being frisked on stage as long as Trump did the same.
    Already I've seen my, sigh, Alabama Party of Trump family members saying "We deserve answers!" and this question was somehow magically never raised before Trump said anything just today.

    Trump doesn't get to make the rules. If Trump wants to invent a reason to flake out, he's free to do so. Maybe they can check his ears for bone spurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    What are you even talking about mate? Your posts make no sense to me
    I am asking you how all of these businesses function without issue, while under the threat of burning Anarchist. How is that hard to understand? What sort of bias do you have, for that to be a difficult concept?

    If anarchists are burning down the city, you should be able to show some sort of business disruption. Correct? Instead of rhetoric, actual data? Correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Already I've seen my, sigh, Alabama Party of Trump family members saying "We deserve answers!" and this question was somehow magically never raised before Trump said anything just today.

    Trump doesn't get to make the rules. If Trump wants to invent a reason to flake out, he's free to do so. Maybe they can check his ears for bone spurs.
    Oh, no, I was just being more of a spiteful little bitch and enjoying the thought of Trump having to live with being felt up by secret service members on the debate stage while on television.

    I increasingly suspect he's going to pussy out of the debates, to be entirely honest. The lack of a live audience to play off is the main factor.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  5. #54865
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Already I've seen my, sigh, Alabama Party of Trump family members saying "We deserve answers!" and this question was somehow magically never raised before Trump said anything just today.

    Trump doesn't get to make the rules. If Trump wants to invent a reason to flake out, he's free to do so. Maybe they can check his ears for bone spurs.
    The idiots need any reason for not admiting they are idiots, and they were conned. If they realize they took the stupid option, i think their whole being would be shattered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I am asking you how all of these businesses function without issue, while under the threat of burning Anarchist. How is that hard to understand? What sort of bias do you have, for that to be a difficult concept?

    If anarchists are burning down the city, you should be able to show some sort of business disruption. Correct? Instead of rhetoric, actual data? Correct?
    I have knowledge of one autonamous zone being created never have I said there was more than that but thanks for cherry picking that in order to make obnoxious dishonest posts.

    Which no longer exists... But that was never the point and you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    The idiots need any reason for not admiting they are idiots, and they were conned. If they realize they took the stupid option, i think their whole being would be shattered.
    This is a Fox News debate to boot... imagine what happens in a couple of weeks, when it’s not Fox...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Oh, no, I was just being more of a spiteful little bitch and enjoying the thought of Trump having to live with being felt up by secret service members on the debate stage.
    God dammit, I misread that. Sorry.

    Anyhow, I disagree. Biden should refuse on principle. Anything else is Trump changing the rules because he's losing. Biden should instead ask "show us your taxes". And nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    I have knowledge of one autonamous zone being created never have I said there was more than that but thanks for cherry picking that in order to make obnoxious dishonest posts.
    Is it still there? The one you are aware of... is it still there? Let’s see who is obnoxious and dishonest...

    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    I can link you a hundred videos and articles. It isn't worthy though because you're so deep inside your echo chamber you've probably already watched them and scuffed at them as being irrelevant.

    It's very sad watching from the outside how tribal this is.
    Oh man... that one autonomous zone, created hundred videos and articles? Think about that...
    Last edited by Felya; 2020-09-29 at 05:30 PM.
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  10. #54870
    Your "source" makes 2020 look about the norm for most years if you stop and compare.

    Again, provide actual evidence for the bullshit your spouting or shut the hell up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    This is a Fox News debate to boot... imagine what happens in a couple of weeks, when it’s not Fox...
    Oh, there's that. The idiots then are super fearful, that even in the controlled, safe space of Fox News, they'll be shown to the world that they are, indeed, a bunch of imbeciles
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  12. #54872
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    The fucking deadly pandemic didn't stop people from congregating on mass to pillage and burn and create anarchic zones inside cities.

    God forbid they have to stop the pillaging for 5 minutes, wear a mask, wash their hands and deliver a piece of paper.

    Deadly pandemic only kills responsible citizens during the election process, obviously not a bunch of men children roaming the streets like a horde.
    hmm nothing like taking a few thousand people and making them the standard for 120 million people that need to vote. Besides the fact the vast majority of people who were "congregating" were wearing mask, were washing their hand and following appropriate COVID procedures.

    good job there buddybro.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    Your "source" makes 2020 look about the norm for most years if you stop and compare.

    Again, provide actual evidence for the bullshit your spouting or shut the hell up.
    His example is Chaz, from months ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    God dammit, I misread that. Sorry.

    Anyhow, I disagree. Biden should refuse on principle. Anything else is Trump changing the rules because he's losing. Biden should instead ask "show us your taxes". And nothing else.
    I think we should just take a moment to remind ourselves of exactly what we stand to witness here.

    Donald Trump in televised room with no live audience to play off of or appeal to, after four years in office with nothing to show for it, just after the NYT dropped a story exposing him as one of the most indebted tax frauds in American history.

    Not gonna lie I personally wouldn't be showing my face in that situation either. Doesn't seem winnable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    And the Democrats platform is force people to wear a stupid mask, raise taxes and bash Trump and republicans. They have no plans unless they arent announcing them because they know we will hate it
    Oh the irony....

    Trump still owns the biggest tax increase ever on US citizens thanks to Tariffs.
    Still waiting for those healthcare, infrastructure, etc etc plans.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    His example is Chaz, from months ago...
    Did someone say Chaz?


  17. #54877
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Why haven’t you provided evidence of even 1 death during a PEACEFUL protest? Still waiting kiddo.
    By definition it isn't peaceful if people die. But you know there can be 1 guy get his head smashed in for being a fascist 1 block away from a peaceful demonstration while the 3rd block has nike shops being lifted and on the 4th block a retired black police officer gets shot by some more intense protesters fighting against injustice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I think we should just take a moment to remind ourselves of exactly what we stand to witness here.

    Donald Trump in televised room with no live audience to play off of or appeal to, after four years in office with nothing to show for it, just after the NYT dropped a story exposing him as one of the most indebted tax frauds in American history.

    Not gonna lie I personally wouldn't be showing my face in that situation either. Doesn't seem winnable.
    With the backdrop of a deadly pandemic, in which he witheld information and lied to the public, in order to maintain wall street happy (and i suspect, his hotels afloat).
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  19. #54879
    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    We all pay too much in taxes. Taxes were initially instituted to pay for national defense and to build infrastructure (railways and roads) and that is what they should still be used for. We should ALL be paying less than 10% of our income in taxes. There should be no welfare (corporate or personal), there should be no foreign aid, there should be no grants, government funded research,or donations, there should be government healthcare. People should be responsible for themselves
    750 dollars is too much on a couple hundred million in income?

    If people should be responsible for themselves then we should do away with the military and just give everyone a tank!
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    By definition it isn't peaceful if people die. But you know there can be 1 guy get his head smashed in for being a fascist 1 block away from a peaceful demonstration while the 3rd block has nike shops being lifted and on the 4th block a retired black police officer gets shot by some more intense protesters fighting against injustice..
    4 blocks... ey? That’s what this meant:

    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    I can link you a hundred videos and articles. It isn't worthy though because you're so deep inside your echo chamber you've probably already watched them and scuffed at them as being irrelevant.

    It's very sad watching from the outside how tribal this is.
    210000 dead to virus Trump lied about, because he needed to panic people for the election.
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