Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Monster Hunter]

Biden was tested twice today. negative.

Thats a good sign but not definitive if he was only infected a few days ago, those tests are still way below the precision needed and aren't very good at finding the virus in the early and very late stages after symptoms.

In the UK were told to test when symptoms occur and no longer than 5 days after there gone for best accuracy for that reason.

I don't want it to be the case, I've got £50 riding on Biden and I know bet 365 will claim him dieing as reason to not pay out even if his successor wins.

But until 2 weeks have passed I'm gonna be nervous

[Inuyaki]

its basically impossible to achieve an absolute majority under the German system, but the Nazis achieved a vote share that was unprecedented in German politics even to this day.

people might not have elected him to become fuhrer, but it was people and democracy that put a no name failing artist in Austria in to the position where he could seize power, that's the danger, all defence of democracy and the dangers of democracy seem to just split hairs and try to ignore that it was the vehicle of democracy that put them in the position to subvert the system in the first place.

and im not saying we should scrap democracy, all im saying is its a terrible flawed system that is very dangerous but its the best we have come up with compared to all other system, but we should not love or trust it unconditionally or treat it with the almost religious fantasism Americans give it because that leads to people becoming very naive of the dangers.

I can't let that stand... what fucking bs.

Hitler couldn't form a government TWICE in 1932 and was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg temporarily until the next election few months later. He actually lost a lot of votes between those 2 elections and the NSDAP was suffering hard and only got 33% in the 2nd one.
In that period he had his Reichtags fire and won closely (well, only after another party was annulled actually, they still only had 44%).

I don't know in what world that is "unprecedented" except if you mean unprecedented bad.

[NoiseTank13]

Good timing on that diagnosis. After peeing in his pants in the debate, I reckon Donny boy will try and run. Bet he'll try and delay the election too.

[Elegiac]

Per Jim Acosta:

"WH officials have serious concerns about Trump's condition tonight and his symptoms are worse than those of the First Lady at this point, according to our sources."

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1312172504148893698

Part of me wonders if Melania actually has it, or if they're saying she has it to avoid the embarrassment of it just being Trump and Hope Hicks having it.

[Edge-]

Part of me wonders if Melania actually has it, or if they're saying she has it to avoid the embarrassment of it just being Trump and Hope Hicks having it.

She was maskless much of the night, and probably maskless in transit. I have no doubt she actually has it, but as stated she's a woman who is 50 and in good health/shape otherwise, and not obese. She'll very likely be fine and not have any immediate complications.

[Thepersona]

Part of me wonders if Melania actually has it, or if they're saying she has it to avoid the embarrassment of it just being Trump and Hope Hicks having it.

New update on this

Jim Acosta: "Trump adviser said there is reason for concern about Trump's health tonight. "This is serious," the source said. The source went on to describe Trump as very tired, very fatigued, and having some trouble breathing. WH officials continue to say Trump will be fine."

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1312172504148893698

[Paranoid Android]

Part of me wonders if Melania actually has it, or if they're saying she has it to avoid the embarrassment of it just being Trump and Hope Hicks having it.

Ha! Nice take, since we know Melania stays far away from Trump as possible and it's not because of responsible social distancing.

[draynay]

That's not that surprising given that she's younger than him (50) and in FAR better shape.

She does have that problem with her eyes since she's always squinting.

[Drutt]

Per Jim Acosta:

"WH officials have serious concerns about Trump's condition tonight and his symptoms are worse than those of the First Lady at this point, according to our sources."

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1312172504148893698

Trump has gone from no symptoms, to positive diagnosis after someone else exhibited symptoms, to mild symptoms, to an experimental cocktail of drugs, to hospital....inside 24 hours.

That is really ominous for him.

[Felya]

Trump has gone from no symptoms, to positive diagnosis after someone else exhibited symptoms, to mild symptoms, to an experimental cocktail of drugs, to hospital....inside 24 hours.

That is really ominous for him.

As long as he is not panicking, he will be alright...

[cubby]

Trump has gone from no symptoms, to positive diagnosis after someone else exhibited symptoms, to mild symptoms, to an experimental cocktail of drugs, to hospital....inside 24 hours.

That is really ominous for him.

Indeed. And they would always low ball the severity "for the good of the nation", so being hospitalized within 24 hours of diagnosis is BAD.

[cubby]

New update on this

Jim Acosta: "Trump adviser said there is reason for concern about Trump's health tonight. "This is serious," the source said. The source went on to describe Trump as very tired, very fatigued, and having some trouble breathing. WH officials continue to say Trump will be fine."

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1312172504148893698

Holy hell.

[fwc577]

Trump has gone from no symptoms, to positive diagnosis after someone else exhibited symptoms, to mild symptoms, to an experimental cocktail of drugs, to hospital....inside 24 hours.

That is really ominous for him.

My biggest fear if he gets through this? Advocating for an experimental vaccine with no FDA approval prior to the election.

[Thepersona]

Holy hell.

Remember, he was diagnosed only yesterday.

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My biggest fear if he gets through this? Advocating for an experimental vaccine with no FDA approval prior to the election.

Vaccines do not cure the disease. It just prevents it. There're a lot of experimental treatments though. The problem is his obesity and heart problems

[Monster Hunter]

I may have been inspired a bit by Denis Leary rant from Demolition Man : 3

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She's not in Congress. She was a Congressional candidate for Pelosi's House seat. And she got 4K votes, the least of the field, meaning she's not in the general election.

She's a consistent source of this nuttery on Twitter.

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That's not that surprising given that she's younger than him (50) and in FAR better shape.

I don't know if its a twisted irony of the universe that I'm to the point in the man in the high castle where hittler died and the germans are using it to start a war with the japs

[DarkAmbient]

Trump has gone from no symptoms, to positive diagnosis after someone else exhibited symptoms, to mild symptoms, to an experimental cocktail of drugs, to hospital....inside 24 hours.

That is really ominous for him.

Median time from onset to hospital is 10 days. This guy is in hospital within hours of diagnosis. He must have been having symptoms for several days by now.

[TigTone]

This is my guess on what happens he makes out alive but will need to be put on ventilators to survive.

As study’s have shown being put on ventilators will mostly likely cause Trump to have serious mental and physical decline.

He will no longer be fit to be the president. He will be ready for a nursing home.

[DarkAmbient]

He will be ready for a nursing home.

Just like Biden is now I hope next time America can find someone who's not about to croak.

[Thekri]

This is my guess on what happens he makes out alive but will need to be put on ventilators to survive.

As study’s have shown being put on ventilators will mostly likely cause Trump to have serious mental and physical decline.

He will no longer be fit to be the president. He will be ready for a nursing home.

As opposed to the totally mentally fit person we saw in Tuesday's debate?

[Machismo]

Just like Biden is now I hope next time America can find someone who's not about to croak.

Biden just beat the shit out of Trump in a debate.

It was almost embarrassing to watch Trump fail so badly... almost.