Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

"I'm not going to waste my time on a virtual debate"

Read that whole thread to see someone high on whatever having a therapy session.

So, Trump brings a lethal virus into the first debate, forces a change in venue due to his own actions, and now he's pounding the floor yelling NO NO NO NO NO?

It's pre-coffee o'clock, so I'm not going back through page by page, but I'm fairly sure a few of us predicted Trump would lose the first debate so badly, that he'd forfeit the other two. I guess this kinda counts.

Of course, Trump says he'll do something, then doesn't, all the time. He may yet show up. He's scheduled for rallies next week in swing states, so it's not like he's feeling too ill to attend.

Again, what I'd really like to see is Trump's expression when they mute him. Or, you know, the tantrum he has when he says "rigged!" and walks off the virtual stage. He proved in the first debate he can't handle a fair fight.

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and the other ended up being about how he's done more for Black people than anyone else. Except Lincoln.

I mean, he did motivate a lot of protests. Does that count?

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Donald Trump is feeling so great that the format for the second debate will not only be changed, but will be virtual.

I'd hoped this would be the case. The Committee was directly threatened by Team Trump when they flat-out violated the honor system and infected 11 staff members. Did he think there'd be no consequences? And if so, why?

[DingDongKing]

This show just means he hasn’t tested negative for covid. That’s the only video he should show...

Yeah, if he was actually testing negative, he'd come out and wave it in everyone's face. But he hasn't yet.

[Breccia]

Multiple places have said Trump is due to appear on FOX News in a TV interview like...now.

So one of two things is about to happen.

1) A FOX News journalist is going to enter the White House and talk to Trump directly, in the same room with him.

2) Trump will talk to someone remotely via camera.

3) Or I guess it could be a phone interview, now that I think about it.

If Trump acts like a piece of #2, then it defeats everything he said about the second debate. If it's #3, we know he looks and feels like shit. If it's #1, well, props to the FOX News host who's willing to do that.

UPDATE: Whoops! Dopey me! The interview already happened and it was over the phone. I got lost in the crossfire of "Trump says he won't debate" and didn't read how we knew that. He said so, in the phone interview.

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Delta drops to Cat 2, in a bit of welcome news.

[Themius]

The fuck is this fox news bullshit.

"Do you feel contagious?"

Contagious isn't a fucking feeling, it's a fact of the virus...

[Gorsameth]

Since Trump bailed on the hospital despite likely still being sick it comes down to dodging the debate with a bad excuse or having to be infront of camera's for an hour while wheezing and visibly struggling to breath.

If he isn't back in shape in a week (which I would guess is unlikely to downright impossible) he HAS to dodge the debate simply because of his covid infection.

[Breccia]

Trump swipes at Barr, Pompeo, Wray in return to Russia investigation, Clinton emails

Did Trump have a senior moment? Did he forget who he's running against?

Trump turned his frustration toward Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Attorney General Bill Barr, lamenting that they had not done enough to speed the process of implicating his political opponents.


"To be honest, Bill Barr is going to go down as either the greatest attorney general in the history of the country or he’s going to go down as, you know, a very sad situation," Trump said. "I’ll be honest with you. He’s got all the information he needs. They want to get more, more, more. They keep getting more. I said, 'you don’t need any more.'"

Trump also chastised Pompeo, who has been in the administration since the beginning and is one of the president's most ardent supporters, for not working to find and release Clinton's deleted emails, a subject of fascination for the president and his supporters throughout his first term.

"They’re in the State Department, but Mike Pompeo has been unable to get them out, which is very sad, actually," Trump said. "I’m not happy about him for that reason. He was unable to get them out. I don’t know why. You’re running the State Department, you get them out."

Trump campaigned on, and brought up to her face, the promise of having Clinton prosecuted.

I will ask, to appoint a special prosecutor. We have to investigate Hillary Clinton, and we have to investigate the investigation

He got applause for that. But like so many of Trump's promises, he never did anything. Now he's losing the election -- could it be for braeking all those promises gasp I tell you gasp! -- and he thinks the same promiss he's failed on will work this time. Despite, you know, evidence that he didn't do anything.

Where's the Trump health care plan? Two E.O.'s with no legal force behind them doesn't count. That's not a plan, that's an announcement of policy.

How much Wall has been built, where there was no Wall before? He caused a Trump Shitshow, I mean Trump Shutdown, for that one. Is it five miles? I think it's five miles.

Where are the jobs? Where is the balanced budget? Where is the world taking the US seriuosly? Where is the clean, beautiful coal? How's peace in the Middle East going? Remembert hat time Trump promised not to negotiate with terrorists? Oh shit, he didn't promise, most people just assumed that one. Then he did it anyhow.

Where are his taxes?

[Machismo]

Multiple places have said Trump is due to appear on FOX News in a TV interview like...now.

So one of two things is about to happen.

1) A FOX News journalist is going to enter the White House and talk to Trump directly, in the same room with him.

2) Trump will talk to someone remotely via camera.

3) Or I guess it could be a phone interview, now that I think about it.

If Trump acts like a piece of #2, then it defeats everything he said about the second debate. If it's #3, we know he looks and feels like shit. If it's #1, well, props to the FOX News host who's willing to do that.

UPDATE: Whoops! Dopey me! The interview already happened and it was over the phone. I got lost in the crossfire of "Trump says he won't debate" and didn't read how we knew that. He said so, in the phone interview.

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Delta drops to Cat 2, in a bit of welcome news.

Remember how so many people were saying Biden was going to suddenly come down with Covid to get out of the debates?

The irony is not lost on me. We now have Trump running away from debates after getting sick due to his own stupidity, and showing signs of dementia.

I will say, the light hurricane year is a pleasant change of pace.

[Breccia]

If he isn't back in shape in a week (which I would guess is unlikely to downright impossible)

Two weeks of the best treatment on the planet and he should be okay. He certainly thinks he'll look okay. Why else would he demand to be on camera and in person?

@Themius is right, of course. He could feel amazing or he could pray for death, but that doesn't change if he's contagious enough. He might feel like he's not contagious.

Fuck your feelings, Mr. Trump.

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Remember how so many people were saying Biden was going to suddenly come down with Covid to get out of the debates?

No. I don't remember anyone saying that on these forums or anyone who said that being taken seriously to make even FOX News' front page.

[Machismo]

Two weeks of the best treatment on the planet and he should be okay. He certainly thinks he'll look okay. Why else would he demand to be on camera and in person?

@Themius is right, of course. He could feel amazing or he could pray for death, but that doesn't change if he's contagious enough. He might feel like he's not contagious.

Fuck your feelings, Mr. Trump.

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No. I don't remember anyone saying that on these forums or anyone who said that being taken seriously to make even FOX News' front page.

It was more of a Facebook thing, a standard Trumpster talking point. It was supposedly the Democrats strategy to hide Biden's dementia.

[Templar 331]

I swear he did some bulk videos yesterday chatting shit in random locations of the White House and is putting them out as proof of life videos.

Remember when we use to accuse Kim Jong Un of this? I wonder what happened to him.

[Breccia]

In the ongoing effort to gather sympathy, Trump directly calls Harris a monster.

This monster that was on stage with Mike Pence, who destroyed her last night, by the way. This monster, she says, ‘no no, there won’t be fracking,’ there won’t be this. Everything she said is a lie

I don't know which debate Trump was watching, but it wasn't the one where Harris said Biden would not ban fracking. Which is, itself, a lie. We've been over this. A lot.

But, yes, monster. So, you know what that means, 24 hour challenge time.

@Orlong @Ghostpanther @Hammerfest @GreenJesus @Thwart @lockedout and any other Trump supporters that we have left:

Is it okay if I call you "monsters" for your political platform? Trump seems to think it's okay to call Harris a monster, but to the best of my knowledge, she's never been convicted of a crime or killed anyone. So it looks like it's a political statement. If that's okay for Trump to do, it must be okay for me to do, to you. So, I need you to answer this one. Is it okay if I call you "monsters" for your political beliefs?

You know what it means if you don't answer.

[Belize]

In the ongoing effort to gather sympathy, Trump directly calls Harris a monster.

Looks like his meds haven't worn off yet.

[Bodakane]

In the ongoing effort to gather sympathy, Trump directly calls Harris a monster.



I don't know which debate Trump was watching, but it wasn't the one where Harris said Biden would not ban fracking. Which is, itself, a lie. We've been over this. A lot.

But, yes, monster. So, you know what that means, 24 hour challenge time.

@Orlong @Ghostpanther @Hammerfest @GreenJesus @Thwart @lockedout and any other Trump supporters that we have left:

Is it okay if I call you "monsters" for your political platform? Trump seems to think it's okay to call Harris a monster, but to the best of my knowledge, she's never been convicted of a crime or killed anyone. So it looks like it's a political statement. If that's okay for Trump to do, it must be okay for me to do, to you. So, I need you to answer this one. Is it okay if I call you "monsters" for your political beliefs?

You know what it means if you don't answer.

Just adding the following to the bold above:

...or rape, or sexual assault, or pedophilia, or wanting to fuck her own child, or consorting with hostile foreign powers, or obstructing of justice.

[Breccia]

The latest FOX News poll has, amongst likely voters, Biden winning 53-43 and amongst registered voters 52-43.

I've cited FOX News polls before. They seem to be in the thick of it with everyone else's. There is a difference, after all, between "biased" and "outright liar".

This poll made it to 538 yesterday. Let's see where on foxnews.com this poll appeared...

Yep, here it is.

They also talk about favorable opinion, in which Biden is +16 and Trump is -10.

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This CNN OP ED suggests that Trump is preparing to use "they changed the rules on me" as yet more evidence that everything is rigged against him, and therefore, to claim he won the election when he doesn't.

But he leads with "President Donald Trump's immediate insistence that he will not participate in a virtual second debate in a week's time makes very, very little political sense." Which I agree with.

So...anyone else think he'll about-face and attend after all? I mean, dude could appear in front of the camera at the Oval Office desk. It's hard to claim that's somehow a disadvantage.

[Machismo]

The latest FOX News poll has, amongst likely voters, Biden winning 53-43 and amongst registered voters 52-43.

I've cited FOX News polls before. They seem to be in the thick of it with everyone else's. There is a difference, after all, between "biased" and "outright liar".

This poll made it to 538 yesterday. Let's see where on foxnews.com this poll appeared...

Yep, here it is.

They also talk about favorable opinion, in which Biden is +16 and Trump is -10.

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This CNN OP ED suggests that Trump is preparing to use "they changed the rules on me" as yet more evidence that everything is rigged against him, and therefore, to claim he won the election when he doesn't.

But he leads with "President Donald Trump's immediate insistence that he will not participate in a virtual second debate in a week's time makes very, very little political sense." Which I agree with.

So...anyone else think he'll about-face and attend after all? I mean, dude could appear in front of the camera at the Oval Office desk. It's hard to claim that's somehow a disadvantage.

I think there's no doubt he ends up doing the debate.

He cannot take the hit to his ego, when the mountain of bad press comes out. Even Fox will have a hard time spinning this. He'll demand some minor change, then claim victory and do the debate.

He'll lose that debate, as well.

[Bodakane]

I think there's no doubt he ends up doing the debate.

He cannot take the hit to his ego, when the mountain of bad press comes out. Even Fox will have a hard time spinning this. He'll demand some minor change, then claim victory and do the debate.

He'll lose that debate, as well.

I don't think Trump's team believes they are converting any undecideds. I think they believe their only hope of winning is firing up the base so much that they get record levels of knuckle dragging dipshit voters and you do that by rallies and fear campaigns, not debates. Its why in the first debate, their ONLY goal was to try and get Biden flustered to the point he stuttered so they could claim "dementia!!!!!".

All they are trying to do is get the numbers close enough to question the results. They know they aren't winning in an outright vote.

[Machismo]

I don't think Trump's team believes they are converting any undecideds. I think they believe their only hope of winning is firing up the base so much that they get record levels of knuckle dragging dipshit voters and you do that by rallies and fear campaigns, not debates. Its why in the first debate, their ONLY goal was to try and get Biden flustered to the point he stuttered so they could claim "dementia!!!!!".

All they are trying to do is get the numbers close enough to question the results. They know they aren't winning in an outright vote.

I think the only issue is, that Trump tucking tail and running will cause his base to be less energized.

[unfilteredJW]

I don't think Trump's team believes they are converting any undecideds. I think they believe their only hope of winning is firing up the base so much that they get record levels of knuckle dragging dipshit voters and you do that by rallies and fear campaigns, not debates. Its why in the first debate, their ONLY goal was to try and get Biden flustered to the point he stuttered so they could claim "dementia!!!!!".

All they are trying to do is get the numbers close enough to question the results. They know they aren't winning in an outright vote.

Lie, cheat, and steal.

[Felya]

All they are trying to do is get the numbers close enough to question the results. They know they aren't winning in an outright vote.

Pence going full on prolife, pretty much means the above.

[Bodakane]

I think the only issue is, that Trump tucking tail and running will cause his base to be less energized.

Then, WADR, you haven't paying attention to the one and only thing Trump is actually competent at....spinning bullshit his followers eat up.

I don't know if people know this or not, but Trump was basically forged in the fires of multi level marketing. Serving bullshit as a 10 course meal at a fine dining establishment is in the the very fiber of his being.