Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Benggaul]

I know most of you probably skip right on past these but I'm stubborn and I'm still gonna do 'em because this is still really important--and currently getting worse.

60,558 new cases; a little over 8k more than last Friday. This is the third day in a row the numbers of jumped by about 8k or more over last week's numbers.

Texas: 4,484 new cases; 106 deaths
California: 3,785 new cases; 81 deaths
Illinois: 3,117 new cases; 32 deaths
Wisconsin: 2,988 new cases; 16 deaths
Fuck Florida (who tops the death chart again today)
Missouri: 2,211 new cases; 81 deaths (new record)
North Carolina: 2,034 new cases; 25 deaths
Ohio: 1,835 new cases (new record); 12 deaths
Indiana: 1,816 new cases (new record); 19 deaths
Kansas: 1,679 new cases (new record); 14 deaths
New York: 1,660 new cases; 9 deaths
Georgia: 1,625 new cases; 54 deaths
Tennessee: 1,556 new cases; 27 deaths
Oklahoma: 1,524 new cases; 6 deaths
Alabama: 1,490 new cases; 16 deaths
Minnesota: 1,390 new cases; 14 deaths
Pennsylvania: 1,381 new cases; 15 deaths
Utah: 1,343 new cases; 4 deaths
Michigan: 1,323 new cases; 7 deaths
Iowa: 1,252 new cases; 20 deaths
Arkansas: 1,167 new cases; 27 deaths
Virginia: 1,114 new cases; 16 deaths
Kentucky: 1,001 new cases; 8 deaths

Most of what I could say here you've already read ad nauseum (if you've actually read these). That's nearly half the states in the US with over 1k new cases. North and South Dakota also both set new records today (when reached for comment South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem...was off plotting evil schemes, I guess). Most of the states listed again had highs near their records and several look to be making new records in the coming week. Shit's kicking off again, guys.

910 more deaths to add to the total, giving us 218,648. We'll already be at 220k by about Monday. Given how steeply the new case numbers have climbed this past week we're probably not going to stay below 1k a day for many weeks longer. I'm not yet willing to give up all optimism that we won't see 2k per day again, but if the numbers are already THIS fucking bleak before Fall and the flu season has fully set in then we might need to brace ourselves. We're heading into the weekend now so numbers will be lower overall, but we're probably going to get hit hard Tuesday/Wednesday.

Related news:

Florida man has a new contender: Texas man.
The Rose Garden wasn't the only Trump superspreader event.
Another GOP congressman tests positive. This time Illinois Rep. Mike Bost.

I had a really depressing one about minks but I don't even want to look at their poor, cute little faces again.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

910 more deaths

It would be nice to see deaths stay under 1k, which is far below CDC expectations.

[Zaydin]

In all my life of living in Florida, I have never heard of having so many hurricanes in one year that they had to start using the Greek Alphabet. I am sure it has happened and I just never noticed. But Holy Hell if this is not a sign of increase unnatural weather as a result of climate change, then I don't know what is.

The last time it happened it was back in like... 2005.

[PhaelixWW]

It would be nice to see deaths stay under 1k, which is far below CDC expectations.

The 7-day average of new cases has gone up 12.5% in the last week and the flu season hasn't even really started yet, so I'm not going to hold my breath.

[Breccia]

The 7-day average of new cases has gone up 12.5% in the last week and the flu season hasn't even really started yet, so I'm not going to hold my breath.

Yeah...that's what the CDC was saying. And many universities. I'm just hoping we get out of here with "only" another 100,000 dead this year.

[Thepersona]

The 7-day average of new cases has gone up 12.5% in the last week and the flu season hasn't even really started yet, so I'm not going to hold my breath.

On the upside, you can use the information gathered from the countries in the southern hemisphere. AFAIK, we did not have a particularly strong flu season.

[Captain N]

Yeah...that's what the CDC was saying. And many universities. I'm just hoping we get out of here with "only" another 100,000 dead this year.

I don't see that happening. Unless we get some miracle leadership at the Federal level and state governments actually start enforcing the rules nothing is going to change. Flu season strikes and we're going to see a lot of dead older teenagers and young adults as it sweeps through high schools and universities who are following the DeSantis School policy.

[Breccia]

Bob Dole own goals himself.

The Commission on Presidential Debates is supposedly bipartisan w/ an equal number of Rs and Ds. I know all of the Republicans and most are friends of mine. I am concerned that none of them support Trump. A biased Debate Commission is unfair.

Hmm.

1) The CPD in their official standing is not supposed to support either candidate.

2) If you know a bunch of Republicans, and none of them support Trump, isn't that a problem for Trump?

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I don't see that happening.

Yeah...it would require a lot of people in a lot of red states to suddenly realize this shit will kill them.

[Nellise]

Another GOP governor tests positive. This time Illinois governor Mike Bost.

He's a congressman from southern Illinois, not the governor. The governor is JB Pritzker, a democrat.

[Benggaul]

He's a congressman from southern Illinois, not the governor. The governor is JB Pritzker, a democrat.

My apologies. I had it right in my notes but made an oops when writing it up. It's been corrected.

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I don't see that happening. Unless we get some miracle leadership at the Federal level and state governments actually start enforcing the rules nothing is going to change. Flu season strikes and we're going to see a lot of dead older teenagers and young adults as it sweeps through high schools and universities who are following the DeSantis School policy.

There is some hope that precautions against COVID-19 will also prevent high numbers of flu cases. This is, however, dependent on people following COVID-19 precautions, so...

[Draco-Onis]

There is some hope that precautions against COVID-19 will also prevent high numbers of flu cases. This is, however, dependent on people following COVID-19 precautions, so...

Against sanity the right wing and Donald Trump have convinced their base that the scientists are lying and that it is just a little flu. I mean this week we are about to see Trump hold super spreader events across the country spreading COVID-19 everywhere he goes not to mention infecting more aides and secret service agents.

[Benggaul]

I mean this week we are about to see Trump hold super spreader events across the country

I wonder.

Depending on when he started receiving those steroids they ought to be done by mid-week. I'm betting he's not going to feel "20 years younger" then. In fact I'm betting he's going to feel significantly worse. Enough to trigger his fear of death again and force him to call off his campaigning? Time will tell.

[cubby]

I wonder.

Depending on when he started receiving those steroids they ought to be done by mid-week. I'm betting he's not going to feel "20 years younger" then. In fact I'm betting he's going to feel significantly worse. Enough to trigger his fear of death again and force him to call off his campaigning? Time will tell.

The important thing is that if he's going to die, he needs to do it after the election. If he does it before, we'll be in an entirely new kind of chaos.

[Zan15]

910 more deaths to add to the total, giving us 218,648. We'll already be at 220k by about Monday. Given how steeply the new case numbers have climbed this past week we're probably not going to stay below 1k a day for many weeks longer. I'm not yet willing to give up all optimism that we won't see 2k per day again, but if the numbers are already THIS fucking bleak before Fall and the flu season has fully set in then we might need to brace ourselves. We're heading into the weekend now so numbers will be lower overall, but we're probably going to get hit hard Tuesday/Wednesday.


Stay safe, folks.

i mean we should be close to zero soon cause everyone's going to get the million dollar care and cocktail Trump got, for free... he said so....

/s

[Omega10]

I know most of you probably skip right on past these but I'm stubborn and I'm still gonna do 'em because this is still really important--and currently getting worse.

60,558 new cases; a little over 8k more than last Friday. This is the third day in a row the numbers of jumped by about 8k or more over last week's numbers.

Texas: 4,484 new cases; 106 deaths
California: 3,785 new cases; 81 deaths
Illinois: 3,117 new cases; 32 deaths
Wisconsin: 2,988 new cases; 16 deaths
Fuck Florida (who tops the death chart again today)
Missouri: 2,211 new cases; 81 deaths (new record)
North Carolina: 2,034 new cases; 25 deaths
Ohio: 1,835 new cases (new record); 12 deaths
Indiana: 1,816 new cases (new record); 19 deaths
Kansas: 1,679 new cases (new record); 14 deaths
New York: 1,660 new cases; 9 deaths
Georgia: 1,625 new cases; 54 deaths
Tennessee: 1,556 new cases; 27 deaths
Oklahoma: 1,524 new cases; 6 deaths
Alabama: 1,490 new cases; 16 deaths
Minnesota: 1,390 new cases; 14 deaths
Pennsylvania: 1,381 new cases; 15 deaths
Utah: 1,343 new cases; 4 deaths
Michigan: 1,323 new cases; 7 deaths
Iowa: 1,252 new cases; 20 deaths
Arkansas: 1,167 new cases; 27 deaths
Virginia: 1,114 new cases; 16 deaths
Kentucky: 1,001 new cases; 8 deaths

Most of what I could say here you've already read ad nauseum (if you've actually read these). That's nearly half the states in the US with over 1k new cases. North and South Dakota also both set new records today (when reached for comment South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem...was off plotting evil schemes, I guess). Most of the states listed again had highs near their records and several look to be making new records in the coming week. Shit's kicking off again, guys.

910 more deaths to add to the total, giving us 218,648. We'll already be at 220k by about Monday. Given how steeply the new case numbers have climbed this past week we're probably not going to stay below 1k a day for many weeks longer. I'm not yet willing to give up all optimism that we won't see 2k per day again, but if the numbers are already THIS fucking bleak before Fall and the flu season has fully set in then we might need to brace ourselves. We're heading into the weekend now so numbers will be lower overall, but we're probably going to get hit hard Tuesday/Wednesday.

Related news:

Florida man has a new contender: Texas man.
The Rose Garden wasn't the only Trump superspreader event.
Another GOP congressman tests positive. This time Illinois Rep. Mike Bost.

I had a really depressing one about minks but I don't even want to look at their poor, cute little faces again.

Stay safe, folks.

Quite the contrary. To me, these are the most important posts of this forum. I rely on your numbers as MSN and Yahoo are definitely NOT reliable. I really really appreciate all the hard work you have put into this.

Thank you.

[Egomaniac]

My apologies. I had it right in my notes but made an oops when writing it up. It's been corrected.

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There is some hope that precautions against COVID-19 will also prevent high numbers of flu cases. This is, however, dependent on people following COVID-19 precautions, so...

Yeah, any steps you take to protect yourself against Covid will also help protect you from the flu. But with so many people insisting that those protections are somehow violating their rights... who knows what the actual result will be.

One thing medical experts is detailed here:


https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...double-threat/

The overlap of COVID-19 and influenza has epidemiologists and some policy makers concerned. The U.S. may soon face two epidemics at the same time, they worry, and this combination could precipitate a crisis unlike any other. “The worst-case scenario is both [the coronavirus and the flu] are spreading fast and causing severe disease, complicating diagnoses and presenting a double burden on the health care system,” says Marc Lipsitch, an epidemiologist at Harvard University. A few states are planning for extra capacity in hospitals to deal with both illnesses.

[Draco-Onis]

I wonder.

Depending on when he started receiving those steroids they ought to be done by mid-week. I'm betting he's not going to feel "20 years younger" then. In fact I'm betting he's going to feel significantly worse. Enough to trigger his fear of death again and force him to call off his campaigning? Time will tell.

Or maybe he will continue the drugs it doesn't seem his doctors are following science just what Trump wants. He also needs to prop himself up for the third debate I doubt his body can take that much punishment though he will most likely still have COVID unless they lied about when he got the virus.

[Azadina]

The important thing is that if he's going to die, he needs to do it after the election. If he does it before, we'll be in an entirely new kind of chaos.

Please, don't even speak of him dying... at least not until he's had the chance to experience jail for a decade.

[Redwyrm]

Best possible event would be for Trump to have a massive coughing fit or pass out on live tv during one of his in-person rallies. One rally to be held at the White House.

[callipygoustp]

I know most of you probably skip right on past these but I'm stubborn and I'm still gonna do 'em because this is still really important--and currently getting worse.

I for one look, specifically, for your updates when I check in on this thread.