Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Soliloque]

You do realise that insisting people obey the rules "just because" in a fundamentally unjust system is just helping to enforce that injustice, right?

First you need to prove they live in this "fundamentally unjust" system, kiddo.
You can't just make the claim and then immediately jump to demanding the issue be solved.

First you need to prove the issue is real. Do your work.
You can't just come out pretending the moon is made of cheese without bringing some serious evidence of that.

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Glad to see that you’re against it, because the language you were using in your earlier posts imply a very tribal view on the subject. Now, do you think that property damage is an equal sin to taking someone’s life?

Do you think property damage is justified because it's less harmful than taking someone's life?

[Gelannerai]

First you need to prove they live in this "fundamentally unjust" system, kiddo.
You can't just make the claim and then immediately jump to demanding the issue be solved.

First you need to prove the issue is real.

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Do you think property damage is justified because it's less harmful than taking someone's life?

I mean, are you implying that data collected by government law enforcement agencies such as the FBI, CIA and DHS is fraudulent?

[draynay]

Why is this a /or/ situation to you?
Is it difficult to condemn both violence to people and destruction of those same people's property?

Aren't both wrong? Why is one getting a pass?

When you're not moving goalposts you're running in circles. I don't know why, I doubt anyone here is dim enough to get tripped up by these witless responses of yours.

[Gelannerai]

First you need to prove they live in this "fundamentally unjust" system, kiddo.
You can't just make the claim and then immediately jump to demanding the issue be solved.

First you need to prove the issue is real.

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Do you think property damage is justified because it's less harmful than taking someone's life?

Answer my question first, if you would.

[Soliloque]

I mean, are you implying that data collected by government law enforcement agencies such as the FBI, CIA and DHS is fraudulent?

Do you think property damage is justified because it's less harmful than taking someone's life?
Quit running.

I mean, are you implying that data collected by government law enforcement agencies such as the FBI, CIA and DHS is fraudulent?

What the data shows and your conclusions are not the same. Data is data, that doesn't mean your interpretation is correct.

[Santti]

First you need to prove they live in this "fundamentally unjust" system, kiddo.
You can't just make the claim and then immediately jump to demanding the issue be solved.

First you need to prove the issue is real.

Now that's just low effort trolling. You know exactly why, and don't pretend otherwise.

Please point out where the protesters are acting on behalf of a state campaign of violence and oppression against a particular minority demographic?

Because if you can't, they aren't the same. Stop lying.

Btw, I just love your signature. Just had to tell you that. <3

[Soliloque]

Now that's just low effort trolling. You know exactly why, and don't pretend otherwise.

I don't. Explain it to me.
Surely you'll be able to if you're so convinced it's true.

[Paranoid Android]

My cynical guess: the issue of the number of justices on Supreme Court fades away in 2021 as the high court out of institutional self-interest behaves super-circumspectly in the face of Democratic congressional majorities.

https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status...192964609?s=19

Yes this is David Frum and he isn't giving no sure fire take. Yet, the problem is this when you have a teacher and the the substitute teacher arrives.

Will SCOTUS always act 'reasonable'? A huge risk and I have no confidence.

[Rozz]

Stay on topic. There are other threads to debate recent civil unrest.

[Soliloque]

He says by answering a question with a question instead

Yes, and that question has the answer in it. Obviously murder is a more grave injury than destroying someone's home.

But is the second justifiable just because the first was possible?

[Soliloque]

Oh, he thinks everyone already has been tripped up, like he's some forum genius. All our masks are off, apparently.

Well, yours is as clearly you don't consider people innocent until proven guilty.
You consider "innocence" an unknown modifier that needs be specified instead of the default standard.

I'd say your mask is pretty well off on that.

[postman1782]

I said "evil", not just physical violence.
Setting the line at "murder" is one of the tricks these apologists love to use to condone all the evils of the left, as if "murder" is the only bad thing someone can do to one another.

Ironically they play the same game the nazi did, when they destroyed Jew's private properties and stores even if the owner wasn't harmed in the attack.
Guess in the end they're just the same.

And I am telling you to point to ANYTHING that the left is condoning out of this. Are there any lefties condoning murders? How bout burning anything down? SHOW IT TO ME. Don't dance around the fucking question.

[draynay]

Read the green text and be obnoxious in a more suitable thread.

[Gelannerai]

Do you think property damage is justified because it's less harmful than taking someone's life?
Quit running.



What the data shows and your conclusions are not the same. Data is data, that doesn't mean your interpretation is correct.

Since we’ve gotten a mod warning, this’ll be my last post on the matter. I think destruction of property is as justified as the Boston Tea Party was. Destruction of property shouldn’t be condoned, as it is definitely illegal, but there have been numerous times in our country’s existence where people have felt they had no other option.

As far as the second quote, their findings show that white supremacist gangs/terrorists are the primary danger Americans face as far as domestic threats are concerned. Furthermore, their findings indicate that there has been a growing problem of people affiliated with those groups/sympathetic to their beliefs finding jobs in law enforcement. That’s what their data shows, so that’s my interpretation. If that data is accurate, then systemic racism is a real problem.
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[Soliloque]

Guess that mod warning was for this discussion, so I'm gonna drop out too.

And I am telling you to point to ANYTHING that the left is condoning out of this. Are there any lefties condoning murders? How bout burning anything down? SHOW IT TO ME. Don't dance around the fucking question.

I'll just say as my last post that in the previous two or three pages I repeatedly asked to condemn the burning, looting and pillaging that's been going around for months now, and none of the leftists here did. They all danced around the subject, making excuses, turning a blind eye or saying that "well, duh, murder is worse".

So, there you have it. That silence is their condoning.
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[postman1782]

Guess that mod warning was for this discussion, so I'm gonna drop out too.



I'll just say as my last post that in the previous two or three pages I repeatedly asked to condemn the burning, looting and pillaging that's been going around for months now, and none of the leftists here did it. They all danced around the subject, making excuses, turning a blind eye.

So, there you have it. I'll show you the deafening silence I received.

And you failed. Thanks.

[Soliloque]

And you failed. Thanks.

Don't think so, but sure. Bye.

[Azadina]

Well, that Pigeon chess match was interesting to watch. What have we learned from it? Any takes?

[unfilteredJW]

Well, that Pigeon chess match was interesting to watch. What have we learned from it? Any takes?

Pigeons are shit at defending fascism.

[Poopymonster]

One is property damage, the other is murder. Buildings can be rebuilt. So, yes?

Seems that a lot of people who looked up to Tyler Durden got REALLY concerned about property damage this year...