Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Gorsameth]

How about actually first making sure Biden wins? This will all be a gigantic waste if Trump doesn’t lose, which is still highly possible.

If Trump wins re-election the US is lost anyway.

[nonameelf]

I am hoping, that if they get all 3 houses and California is a strong Democrat, they could divide it up from 1 state into 3 or more and make sure that the populations are weighted in that division.

There's no way to do 3 divisions that are democrat majority. You can do a north/south split, but that's probably not a good long term plan considering how dependent the south is on the north.

[Breccia]

weekend reporting, ftw?

Last Sunday they reported 2. I wouldn't read anything into it.

Could be. A high number of cases with a low number of deaths is still good news. Hope it stays low.

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And now, a demonstration of the difference between the candidates.

Trump: If Biden wins, he will listen to the scientists!

Biden: If I win, I will listen to the scientists!

Incidentally, Trump claimed that, if Biden were in charge, we'd still be in a depression. Leaving out the part, of course, that the reason we're in one is because of Trump.

Trump also said the Christmas season will be cancelled if Biden wins.

"Har har. What did Trump really say?"

The Christmas season will be cancelled. Look, remember I said we’re going to bring back Christmas? The name. Remember? We brought it back. Remember?

That's desperation. Also, how many dead people are worth it to say "Merry Christmas"? Which, by the way, Biden can't stop you from saying. That's illegal.

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Something to (not) look forward to: 8 million people have filed with the CDC's emergency eviction blocking thing that somehow works.

On a typical year, 3.6 million evictions take place. So, well over double.

[Felya]

Puerto Rico and DC are two, but what do you consider 3 and 4?

American Samoa and Guam?

[DingDongKing]

Talking about Halloween, he hasn't used the phrase 'witch hunt' in a while. I miss that.

[Milchshake]

Sign of a sinking ship? Rats, ship, you know how it goes.
For years, serious government wonks and intelligence officials thought they could manage Trump’s boredom by including more pictures.

Trump was receiving one of his first codeword classified briefings on Afghanistan, at his Bedminster club, when he suddenly got bored and ordered milkshakes. The incident became legendary inside CIA, where like at other agencies, morale has slumped.

The man will spend the next 101 days dragging down everything with him.
Including frozen dairy desserts

[DingDongKing]

I mean at least he ordered milkshakes.

[Muzjhath]

I mean at least he ordered milkshakes.

Clearly Trump is a sleeper-agent for antifa! Look at him! MILKSHAKES! We all know those are antifa communist weapons!
He's a plant to uncover facism in the USA!
We need to lock him up!

/s... incase that wasn't obvious.

[Gelannerai]

Wow, we're getting the whole "war" on Christmas nonsense going early this year. Haven't even had Halloween yet!

It’s hilarious, they’re in full-on shit-flinging panic mode since their big “October Surprise” was a colossal flop. The cognitive dissonance it would take to make someone believe that a devout Catholic like Biden would ever consider abolishing Christmas would land most people in an asylum.

[DingDongKing]

Clearly Trump is a sleeper-agent for antifa! Look at him! MILKSHAKES! We all know those are antifa communist weapons!
He's a plant to uncover facism in the USA!
We need to lock him up!

/s... incase that wasn't obvious.

Next he’s gonna order bags of soup and cans of tuna. After that bread, for the tuna!

[Cloe]

Trump needs to feed us mcdonalds

[Adam Jensen]

Could be. A high number of cases with a low number of deaths is still good news. Hope it stays low.

- - - Updated - - -

And now, a demonstration of the difference between the candidates.

Trump: If Biden wins, he will listen to the scientists!

Biden: If I win, I will listen to the scientists!

Incidentally, Trump claimed that, if Biden were in charge, we'd still be in a depression. Leaving out the part, of course, that the reason we're in one is because of Trump.

Trump also said the Christmas season will be cancelled if Biden wins.

"Har har. What did Trump really say?"



That's desperation. Also, how many dead people are worth it to say "Merry Christmas"? Which, by the way, Biden can't stop you from saying. That's illegal.

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Something to (not) look forward to: 8 million people have filed with the CDC's emergency eviction blocking thing that somehow works.

On a typical year, 3.6 million evictions take place. So, well over double.

He really is a deluded Thanksgiving Uncle. Literally the only people who think there's a "war on Christmas" are the addicts who watch Fox News all day. Target putting up "Happy Holidays" in its stores isn't some grand conspiracy to destroy Christian Christmas, its an inclusive advertising means to make people feel welcome in their store so customers spend money. Happy Holidays is a fine alternative to Merry Christmas because it recognizes the variety of holidays that exist around that time. But no one, literally no one, is getting upset (except maybe the Grinch who lives just north of Whoville) when someone says "Merry Christmas."

It's just marketing. Businesses say "Merry Christmas" all the time, but they also like getting money from Jews and Muslims and others who might not celebrate Christmas, so they'll usually also say something like "Happy Holidays." Inclusivity == more profits.

Not a conspiracy at all.

This is a spectacularly special year. Christmas doesn't need to change much. Maybe it should be more virtual, maybe people should shop online rather than crowding in stores. But we can still find a way to celebrate whatever holiday we wish to celebrate come December.

[Breccia]

Sign of a sinking ship?

Okay...I have to admit, having milkshakes during a security briefing does sounds pretty cool.

Getting bored during one and interrupting it sounds like a security risk. I don't care if it was New York Super Fudge Chunk blended with Hershey's Special Dark and you are handed a long-handled spoon. If you're in a security briefing, you fucking do the security briefing.

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Businesses say "Merry Christmas" all the time

It is indeed. Trump is once again promising something he cannot provide. The federal government cannot stop you from saying "Merry Christmas" "Happy Holidays" or anything else like that. Biden can't force you to say "Happy Holidays" any more than he can force you to say "I am faithful to my wife, and here are my taxes".

[Katchii]

Sign of a sinking ship? Rats, ship, you know how it goes.
For years, serious government wonks and intelligence officials thought they could manage Trump’s boredom by including more pictures.

Trump was receiving one of his first codeword classified briefings on Afghanistan, at his Bedminster club, when he suddenly got bored and ordered milkshakes. The incident became legendary inside CIA, where like at other agencies, morale has slumped.

The man will spend the next 101 days dragging down everything with him.
Including frozen dairy desserts

I would assume it's fairly difficult to have a thriving intelligence community when the person in charge of that community is a flailing man-baby.

[Breccia]

Since Trump intentionally blocked WH scientists from going on Sunday talk shows, other non-restricted scientists went on instead.

It was not great news. But we knew that.

A top infectious diseases expert is warning that the next several weeks will be the “darkest of the entire pandemic” in the U.S. as cases continue to surge in many parts of the country while awaiting a vaccine.

“We do have vaccines and therapeutics coming down the pike, but when you actually look at the time period for that, the next six to 12 weeks are going to be the darkest of the entire pandemic,” Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, said during an interview with Chuck Todd of NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday.

“Vaccines will not become available in any meaningful way until early to [the] third quarter of next year. And even then, half of the U.S. population at this point is skeptical even taking the vaccine,” he said.

"Whoa! Third quarter of next year? That's not what Team Trump is saying at all!"

Well, then put Fauci on. Or Birx. Or Redfield. If they want to contradict with their own expert opinions, I would welcome that.

“Friday, we had 70,000 cases, matching the largest number we had seen back during the really serious peak in July,” Osterholm said. “That number, we’re going to blow right through that. And between now and the holidays, we will see numbers much larger than even the 67,000 to 75,000 cases.”

The renowned infectious diseases expert warned people against traveling for the holidays to avoid potentially infected members of their own family saying “if you really love the people that you have in your immediate family...do them the greatest gift of all, and that is distance yourself this year and don’t expose them.”

"For example, if you're going to a debate..." he should have said, but didn't.

[Muzjhath]

He really is a deluded Thanksgiving Uncle. Literally the only people who think there's a "war on Christmas" are the addicts who watch Fox News all day. Target putting up "Happy Holidays" in its stores isn't some grand conspiracy to destroy Christian Christmas, its an inclusive advertising means to make people feel welcome in their store so customers spend money. Happy Holidays is a fine alternative to Merry Christmas because it recognizes the variety of holidays that exist around that time. But no one, literally no one, is getting upset (except maybe the Grinch who lives just north of Whoville) when someone says "Merry Christmas."

It's just marketing. Businesses say "Merry Christmas" all the time, but they also like getting money from Jews and Muslims and others who might not celebrate Christmas, so they'll usually also say something like "Happy Holidays." Inclusivity == more profits.

Not a conspiracy at all.

This is a spectacularly special year. Christmas doesn't need to change much. Maybe it should be more virtual, maybe people should shop online rather than crowding in stores. But we can still find a way to celebrate whatever holiday we wish to celebrate come December.

"Happy Holidays" also includes New Years, which means that those stores won't have to change everything over a weeks time for the next big thing. Just smaller specific things.

[alexw]

Since Trump intentionally blocked WH scientists from going on Sunday talk shows, other non-restricted scientists went on instead.

It was not great news. But we knew that.



"Whoa! Third quarter of next year? That's not what Team Trump is saying at all!"

Well, then put Fauci on. Or Birx. Or Redfield. If they want to contradict with their own expert opinions, I would welcome that.



"For example, if you're going to a debate..." he should have said, but didn't.

The cases being reported now are from people who caught the virus two weeks ago and are only now getting ill enough and desperate enough to seek medical intervention.

Similarly, people catching it today will be entering hospitals and carried in ambulances in two weeks time.

So that worsening is already baked in for the next two weeks. No actions taken now can stop it.

It is possible to set the disease spread on a downward trajectory after that however.

But the chances of that happening under this covid denialist administration...? Zero.

[Redwyrm]

"Happy Holidays" also includes New Years, which means that those stores won't have to change everything over a weeks time for the next big thing. Just smaller specific things.

If I ever got into an argument about saying "Happy Holidays" I would just do this

Them: You should say Merry Christmas

Me: What day is it?

Them: December 10th

Me: Is Christmas on December 10th?

Them: No

Me: Then, "Happy Holidays" it is. Come back when it's December 25th

[PhaelixWW]

American Samoa and Guam?

DC and Puerto Rico at least have state-level populations. It's harder to make the case for the other territories.

[cubby]

Puerto Rico and DC are two, but what do you consider 3 and 4?

You know what, that's a big whoopsie-daisies (Notting Hill) on my part. I had in my brain the number of new Senators, and somehow that translated to stars.

Obviously, as you pointed out, it would be just two - D.C. and Puerto Rico. I don't know of any other Protectorates that would be ready for statehood right now.