Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Adam Jensen]

Hey Deux Ex MMO-china, how many miles of new Wall have been built where there was no Wall before?

And also, how do you feel about augmented questions?

Five whole miles

[Breccia]

Five whole miles

And for added fun, SCOTUS might strike down the funding. At best, Trump can get a "win" which is the status quo -- stealing money from other military projects because the Wall is National Security Lol. At worst, he can have his biggest campaign promise torn into shreds right before the election.

[kaid]

If a presidentially supported bill clears the House at some point we’ll bring it to the floor
-- Mitch McConnell, Trump's lapdog bitch

Yep, that's some craven bootlicking right there.

So I guess the question is, is there any chance whatsoever that Pelosi and Trump will not just agree on a bill, but also, get it to the Senate before the election? And would the Senate have any chance at all of voting before the election?

McConnell knows Trump sold him out. He knows he has two options, both bad. One, sigh and sign whatever Pelosi sends him. Two, break ranks with Trump. He probably didn't see this coming, but too bad.

Depends how desperate Trump is. If he just full on caves and then some to pelosi it could happen short of that I don't know.

[Breccia]

Depends how desperate Trump is. If he just full on caves and then some to pelosi it could happen short of that I don't know.

Right, but that's part of the problem. If Trump full-on caves, and says "anything Pelosi wants she gets" McConnell might oppose that purely on image and principle.

[Antiganon]

I was speaking if he was a convicted felon. At that point he loses those rights.

(love your sig)

I thought he keeps them if under house arrest, rather than in prison.

At any rate, I think the over/under on Twitter banning him before the FBI or NY State Police take his phone away is pretty good.

[kaid]

Right, but that's part of the problem. If Trump full-on caves, and says "anything Pelosi wants she gets" McConnell might oppose that purely on image and principle.

Yup Mitch is in a tough position trump is desperate so any plan that comes out is likely WAY more than the senate gop want anything to do with and to pass it some of them will have to vote for it. The dems if they are doing the heavy lifting are going to demand most of what they are asking for they get. So if mitch says no GOP is blamed. If mitch says yes pelosi gets a huge win to crow about.

[Paranoid Android]

. Rudy: Even if the Hunter laptop story is bogus, Americans ‘are entitled to know it’

https://t.co/l1j5dYJL0b

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/...892515843?s=19

So people are entitled to know about fake stories?

Rudi gave up fast on this one.

[Fugus]

Right, but that's part of the problem. If Trump full-on caves, and says "anything Pelosi wants she gets" McConnell might oppose that purely on image and principle.

I can see it on image, but he couldn't really oppose on principles when he has none. They man protected a potential serial rapist to get him on the Supreme Court. Principles haven't had anything to do with that man in as long as I can remember.

[Breccia]

So people are entitled to know about fake stories?

No no, that's not what he means.

Giuliani clearly means that, since there is the minimum suggestion of some vaguely-defined corruption, we should investigate at full strength to see if there's a story here or not.

So let's see Trump's taxes.

The FBI got this laptop, or that's how the story goes, and there has been no further move since. Meanwhile NYState and also the House have been moving on Trump's taxes because they could contain evidence of tax fraud and/or insurance fraud. Considering they're both pushing subpoenas in court, the case is objectively stronger, because in the Hunter Biden case they are not.

In fact, let's make this another 24-hour challenge. @Ghostpanther I know you're watching, but let's add the usual crowd of @lockedout @Hammerfest @Thwart @DocSavageFan and so forth and so on.

Which is the case?

1) You admit we deserve the facts of both stories. We should investigate the Hunter Biden story, and also Trump's fraud story, and need to see the evidence of both.
2) You admit there is not enough reason to pursue either case.
3) You admit you want to see Hunter Biden's case progress, but not Trump's taxes, because you are a hypocrite.

The usual rules, 24 hours or I get to pick for you, and also, you admit you're a coward for not answering.

[Felya]

I was speaking if he was a convicted felon. At that point he loses those rights.

(love your sig)

Ghost updated his post 8 hours later... lol

[Adam Jensen]

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/...892515843?s=19

So people are entitled to know about fake stories?

Rudi gave up fast on this one.

Even if the "Rudy is a Child Pornographer" story is bogus, the American people still deserve to know it.

[cubby]

I thought he keeps them if under house arrest, rather than in prison.

At any rate, I think the over/under on Twitter banning him before the FBI or NY State Police take his phone away is pretty good.

I have to admit I'm not 100% sure on how his rights would work under house arrest - I'm starting from the assumption that house arrest works like prison regarding rights, because he would be a convicted felon.

I can see his phone being seized on Day 1 of his return to the private sector.

[Breccia]

The University of Michigan orders its students to quarantine in place.

"Which ones?"

Yes.

UMich is the first I've seen to impose an all-student lockdown, but it will surprise me if they're the last.

[kaid]

The University of Michigan orders its students to quarantine in place.

"Which ones?"

Yes.

UMich is the first I've seen to impose an all-student lockdown, but it will surprise me if they're the last.

That seems unlikely to be viable. Dorms are generally not setup very well in my experience for any kind of quarantine in place situation. You almost can't help but to interact.

[Benggaul]

As an insight into how it's going today, we're currently about 4k cases off from last Tuesday's numbers with about 5 hours left in the reporting day and Texas hasn't even weighed in yet.

Manage your optimism.

[Zan15]

And why not, throwing this in here too: Rush Limbaugh's cancer is terminal.

The Republican Party is about to lose one of its staunchest allies, a crazy conspiracy theorist hypocrite drug abuser who captured a lot of Republican followers...somehow. I do not celebrate his death, just so we're clear, but Team Trump just lost yet another asset.

Meh he will spawn a thousand more batches of evil upon his death, each trying to be crazier than the next to conquer and recover his crown. its going to get real embarrassing very fast. 50 million bucks is a lot of money to be crazy about.


Hard to feel sorry for Rush when he was crowing for people to be put to death and locked up for life for the same things he was secretly doing.

Guess he should not have fought so hard against the govt regulating things like cancer sticks.

So far Karma is kicking ass this year.....def almost undefeated season

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...nhq-story.html

Limbaugh went on to claim “firsthand smoke” isn’t that serious either.

“Firsthand smoke takes 50 years to kill people, if it does,” he said. “Not everybody that smokes gets cancer. Now, it’s true that everybody who smokes dies, but so does everyone who eats carrots.”

Limbaugh went on to ask why the government didn’t ban tobacco if it was so dangerous before claiming the society had vilified smokers, even though “their purchases are funding children’s health care programs.”

“I would like a medal for smoking cigars, is what I’m saying,” Limbaugh added.

“I’ve never seen cause of death: Tobacco products. Not everybody who smokes gets cancer. The most shocking event in the world is when somebody gets lung cancer and they never smoked, and everybody says, ‘How the hell did that happen?’ Because everybody’s been so persuaded to believe that it’s automatic.”

[beanman12345]

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/...892515843?s=19

So people are entitled to know about fake stories?

Rudi gave up fast on this one.

The gullible people like @Thwart and @DocSavageFan need to know about the fake stories, because conspiracies are all they have. Remember feels>facts to these people.

[Zaydin]

So Trump reportedly stormed out of an interview with 60 Minutes early and never returned. As pre-emtpive damage control, he's trying to mask shame Leslie Stahl for not wearing a mask in a short clip he put up on Twitter.

Given Trumps well documented hatred of masks and ordering his staff not to wear them what with them being a reminder of his failure to deal with the Trump VIrus, does he really think this "attack" has any credibility at all?

[beanman12345]

So Trump reportedly stormed out of an interview with 60 Minutes early and never returned. As pre-emtpive damage control, he's trying to mask shame Leslie Stahl for not wearing a mask in a short clip he put up on Twitter.

Given Trumps well documented hatred of masks and ordering his staff not to wear them what with them being a reminder of his failure to deal with the Trump VIrus, does he really think this "attack" has any credibility at all?

Wait, I thought he was "immune"? what a baby.

[GreenJesus]

The University of Michigan orders its students to quarantine in place.

"Which ones?"

Yes.

UMich is the first I've seen to impose an all-student lockdown, but it will surprise me if they're the last.

https://www.axios.com/k-12-reopening...3914002c4.html

That's pretty interesting. Open up the schools and follow the science.