Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Zantos]

My uncle is a Trump supporter. He is watching the final debate. I couldn't watch it. Kept saying commentary about how Trump said "NY is a ghost town" and I would reply "Yeah, Because you refuse to give them any aid". Things like that. Well, my uncle said the dems are clogging up the process. I said no, Trump has said he refuses to sign anything until after November 3rd. To which my uncle said "pretty sure you're getting your news from bad places". I had to inform him that, it didn't come from the news. It came from Trump himself, posting it to his own twitter. He said "im sure theres a reason for it" and "Don't think he did."

Seems the mindset of a Trump supporter is Deny and shift blame when denying wont work. Hate listening to Trump talk. Hes an actual moron and you can tell when he opens his mouth.

[Adam Jensen]

Among debate watchers according to CNN, Bidens favorability went up after the debate, having been 55% favorable before the debate and 56% favorable after the debate. Trumps ratings change, too.

He went from a 42% favorable rating to a 41% favorable rating.

But to be fair, if I can read the information from that screenshot right, there's a 5.7% margin of error, so that 1% change is within that error.

[postman1782]

My uncle is a Trump supporter. He is watching the final debate. I couldn't watch it. Kept saying commentary about how Trump said "NY is a ghost town" and I would reply "Yeah, Because you refuse to give them any aid". Things like that. Well, my uncle said the dems are clogging up the process. I said no, Trump has said he refuses to sign anything until after November 3rd. To which my uncle said "pretty sure you're getting your news from bad places". I had to inform him that, it didn't come from the news. It came from Trump himself, posting it to his own twitter. He said "im sure theres a reason for it" and "Don't think he did."

Seems the mindset of a Trump supporter is Deny and shift blame when denying wont work. Hate listening to Trump talk. Hes an actual moron and you can tell when he opens his mouth.

Yep, had some guy telling me that all the Hunter Biden stuff is true, based on Ratcliffe saying it was, without any truth, and the FBI saying they were investigating it as Russian disinformation. Then he linked me Fox News thinking that would help him LOL.

[Zaydin]

But to be fair, if I can read the information from that screenshot right, there's a 5.7% margin of error, so that 1% change is within that error.

A draw is still a loss for Trump just because of how bad his situation is right now. He needed a big win to shift the perception of his campaign and the narrative and he didn't achieve that.

[Kaleredar]

A draw is still a loss for Trump just because of how bad his situation is right now. He needed a big win to shift the perception of his campaign and the narrative and he didn't achieve that.

I was telling some buddies of mine... the only thing that would shift my opinion on Trump at this point is if he came out and said "This was all a hoax; I can't believe you morons voted for me 4 years ago, and I'm even more astounded any of you are still thinking of voting for me now. May God have mercy on all of your souls."

The only people who can realistically have their opinions "shifted" on Trump are the people who haven't paid attention for the past four years.

But to be fair, if I can read the information from that screenshot right, there's a 5.7% margin of error, so that 1% change is within that error.

Yeah I really don't read too much into single percentage switches. It's more like... the people that support Biden support Biden, and the people that support Trump support Trump. If they cared about Trump's speaking or debate skills, they obviously wouldn't be supporting Trump in the first place.

And unfortunately all of this speculation is just that... speculation. Polls showed Hillary winning at least semi-confidently right up until she lost. That's not to say that the majority of people don't support Biden but, like with 2016, thanks to the electoral college all it takes is that tiny sliver in the few swing state districts to swing this back to being another four years of having to put up with Trump's bullshit.

[Specialka]

Yes except for women because according to conservatives they should have a shock collar with an invisible electric fence around the house so they can do their God given task in life. Take care of the home and all duties included in there and rear children. The only thing women are good for in this world according to Conservatives.

Under his eye.

[postman1782]

Under his eye.

What is this post for?

[DingDongKing]

What is this post for?

Probably something vague so that the poster can draw attention to himself. Bees around honey, flies around...

[Felya]

Under his eye.

It makes it confusing, if you don’t capital the H...

[Felya]

Any chance Divo can reunite to recreate a classic as a Trump song?

When a problem comes along, you must live with it... live with it good... du du du... live with it...

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Anyone have transcripts? How many times did Trump say Antifa yesterday? Is Hunter Biden the new antifa?

[Breccia]

This TheAtlantic OP ED raises a good point that was shown clearly during the debate.

We know Trump doesn't have a plan for...anything. That's been clear.

Trump has, instead of caring about what voters care about, instead of trying to fix problems that voters have, he's been trying to get voters to look at other things -- even those that aren't really problems. Basically, Trump is trying to win the election by ignoring the lethal outbreak he allowed, by instead saying "But the laptop! But the laptop!" even when his own people can't do anything with it. .

The laptop, which again we have to take Team Trump's word for (and Trump lies all the time about everything), does not magically fix Trump's many broken promises. It does not fix the jobs/GDP issue that we had even in 2019. It does not fix the US's standing on the world stage. It does not end the trade war with China. We cannot build the Wall out of one laptop. It does not fix Trump's now objective compromised nature to foreign assets. The laptop's opinion on the losses to the oil, coal, and steel industries is unknown, but it probably won't reverse them. It does not magically undo all the guilty pleas or guilty verdicts of Team Trump. The laptop did not stop Nazis from marching in the streets, nor did it stop Trump from gassing peaceful protestors so he could hold up a Bible upside down. The laptop did not blackmail a foreign country, and could be the result of said blackmail. The laptop will not strike a deal with Pelosi for CARES 2 (to be fair, Trump is at least trying, but he hasn't done it yet, and I don't see the laptop helping). The laptop will not bring peace to the Middle East.

And the laptop will not revive the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died to a lethal outbreak.

The laptop won't give you your job back, it won't pay your bills when you're fired, and it won't let you hug your loved ones.

Don't vote for the laptop. The laptop doesn't hold any answers. Neither does Trump.

[Felya]

Unlike the virus, we can live with a laptop...

[DingDongKing]

Unlike the virus, we can live with a laptop...

No. It's the Laptop from Hell.

[Felya]

No. It's the Laptop from Hell.

I like how Biden brought it up... I also like how the moderator restated her final question... What would you say to America on your inauguration?... after Trump’s 2 min rant about China and laptops... I was watching Trump’s answer, with fingers crossed that she would ask the question again... fucking ass hole...

[DingDongKing]

I like how Biden brought it up... I also like how the moderator restated her final question... What would you say to America on your inauguration?... after Trump’s 2 min rant about China and laptops... I was watching Trump’s answer, with fingers crossed that she would ask the question again... fucking ass hole...

I think she was just tired by that point. She was like, 'fuck it, we're out of time'.

Complete sidenote. I just realised that Donald Trump's nickname for Adam Schiff is 'Watermelon Head'. It cracked me up.

Skip to 14:25 if you don't want to watch the monologue. The video produced by Kimmel's wife is utterly heartbreaking.

[Breccia]

74,301 new cases, about 8k more than last Thursday.

US reaches second-highest daily total of over 75,000 coronavirus cases

Yeah different sites use slightly different numbers based on when they start, etc.

The United States on Thursday reported at least 75,049 new coronavirus cases, the second-highest daily total across the country since the onset of the pandemic, according a database from The New York Times.

There has been an average of 62,166 cases per day over the past week, an increase of 32 percent from the average two weeks earlier.

The spike is the highest daily count since July, when more than 77,000 infections were recorded in one day.

As of Friday morning, more than 8.4 million people in the country have been infected with the coronavirus. At least 828 new coronavirus deaths were also reported, bringing the country's total death toll to at least 223,000.

Eight states set single-day case records, and 13 states have added more cases in the past week than in any other seven-day period.

In addition, the Midwest and the Rocky Mountains have emerged as new hot spots in recent days.

Officials in Kentucky and Colorado reported single-day records of more than 1,470 and 1,300 cases, respectively. In Ohio, more than 2,425 new cases were reported.

Meanwhile

It will go away and I say we’re rounding the turn. We are rounding the corner. It is going away

Trump said this during the debate, in public, the same day.

Cases =/= deaths, but the deaths aren't going down anymore. In fact, they're going up. Regardless of the source you've used, deaths are higher (on average at least) now than they were 7 or 14 days ago.



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By Executive Order, Trump removes the protections from civil servants, allowing them to be fired if they say something true that Trump doesn't like. Specifically, they can be fired for "performance reasons" with no evidence given and no opportunity to challenge.

Trump doesn't want competence, he wants loyalty to Trump.

[DarkAmbient]

I listened to the debate on the radio. Trump seemed sharper and livelier than Biden, who sounded slightly faltering and very old. Not that Trump ever actually said anything intelligent, because he's not capable of it. But purely in terms of energy and vigor you wouldn't think there was only 3 years between them.

[Timester]

So, the video is out.

[Breccia]

Bad News for the US and especially Trump's base.

Because the NYTimes does this so graphically, it's easy to do...this:



Read that text. It's relevant.

Note that the top row is all red states. They're the worst. And in each of those, deaths are now higher than they've ever been.

It's also worth noting that, while there are blue states on the list, most of the blue states that are rising, have been worse in the past. Pennsylvania? Rising, but they've been far worse. Virginia? Same. Illinois? Very same. It's not 100% corellation (Indiana for example) but it's easy to spot the lean both way.

Losing "a few" friends and family members won't change the rabid fanbase, but you're right -- it's still bad news for them.

[Skulltaker]

It is "correlation" fuckwit.

Let me explain something to you fuckwit: the reason the US is not deaing with covid is because you don't have a proper healthcare system. Not because of Trump, who is undoubtedly a moron, but not responsible for your lack of universal healthcare. Because of people like YOU. Everyone in the world knows this apart from people like you. Now fuck off and acquire a basic level of education before commenting on anything, ever, again.

Relax, burner account, noone is taking you serious anyway.

So, the video is out.

In all fairness, it does look like he's tucking in his shirt. No excuse for the fuzzing over her befor that, and no idea where it would have gone. The guy's a scumbag, dangerous and disgusting, but I'd not throw around accusations of attempted sex with a minor just like that.