Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[postman1782]

So, yes, I know that people have said this and everything, but you have to watch the bullshit that Tucker Carlson spewed.

Literally everything Tucker Carlson said is bullshit.

[nonameelf]

So, yes, I know that people have said this and everything, but you have to watch the bullshit that Tucker Carlson spewed.

Literally everything Tucker Carlson said is bullshit.

I like how he avoids mentioning the company so he doesn't get his ass sued again.

He's either a complete moron or he's lying. I'm going to go with both.

[postman1782]

I like how he avoids mentioning the company so he doesn't get his ass sued again.

He's either a complete moron or he's lying. I'm going to go with both.

It's both, and what is REALLY SAD? Is that there is roughly 40% of the country that actually believes his stupid ass. EVEN THOUGH, they won a court case, stating that no one should reasonably believe him.

[Nastard]

then why does Trump at all claim his role as president is a part of what makes people feel secure if it's meaningless?

Because he constantly lies in order to make himself appear grander? Have you seriously not noticed how much hyperbole he uses when he speaks? Everything he does is the biggest, best, greatest, most tremendous thing you've ever seen. Anything his opposition does is the worst, evil, and nastiest thing anyone has ever done.

The real reason terrorists haven't done another 9/11 is because I started working out again a few years ago. They're all so scared of me that they'd never dare stage an attack on US soil.

Hey, if Trump can make up bullshit as a reason so can I.

[nonameelf]

It's both, and what is REALLY SAD? Is that there is roughly 40% of the country that actually believes his stupid ass. EVEN THOUGH, they won a court case, stating that no one should reasonably believe him.

Yeah, I'm looking at the responses to his tweet and the people actually believing this steaming pile of bullshit make me lose faith in humanity. I just want to go move up in the mountains somewhere and only have squirrels as friends.

[DingDongKing]

Literally everything Tucker Carlson said is bullshit.

This is an absolutist statement that applies absolutely all of the time. He never doesn’t chat shit.

[postman1782]

Yeah, I'm looking at the responses to his tweet and the people actually believing this steaming pile of bullshit make me lose faith in humanity. I just want to go move up in the mountains somewhere and only have squirrels as friends.

One of the greatest replies to the Tucker Carlson tweet about it: https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1321635046118330368

That guy has them, or at least what is probably more credible to be them than what Tucker had.

[Kiri]

Why would they need to when Trump's criminal presidency and its incompetent handling of COVID-19 have already done more than...

Wait for it...

It is kind of sad that people were up in arms over terrorist attacks, but the same people can ignore a deadly pandemic killing way more people. Though it does make sense to some extent. Fighting terrorism mostly involved sending other people to kill said terrorists for them and some security measures that made said people feel safer. Fighting COVID means they have to actually do something themselves, have to sacrifice something themselves, even if it is just inconvenience. It's saddening, of course, but that seems to be the case at least in some cases. And it does make sense, given how the human mind works. Sending some kid you don't know to war doesn't impact you much. Having to wear a mask daily does.

[Felya]

the thing i never got is with how people like to play up Trump as the fool, why haven't terrorists done another 9/11 (he actually said him being president prevents this) or some enemy nation invaded yet. Either he's nowhere near as incompetent as people like to claim or the US works in a way where not everyone in government services is totally subservient to their leader's intelligence

Name a president that had 9/11 like attack during their presidency? The issue being displayed in this post, doesn’t actually have anything to do with Trump.

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So, yes, I know that people have said this and everything, but you have to watch the bullshit that Tucker Carlson spewed.

Literally everything Tucker Carlson said is bullshit.

Can you imagine if Russian scandal was based on... oops, evidence got lost in the mail? Trump wouldn’t even have to replace Sessions with Barr...

[postman1782]

Name a president that had 9/11 like attack during their presidency? The issue being displayed in this post, doesn’t actually have anything to do with Trump.

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Can you imagine if Russian scandal was based on... oops, evidence got lost in the mail? Trump wouldn’t even have to replace Sessions with Barr...

I know right? I wonder if he was smart enough to actually copy it, we have shit like email, and clouds and whatnot, and all this technology, but we went with basic technology like the mail of all things?

[Felya]

I like how he avoids mentioning the company so he doesn't get his ass sued again.

He's either a complete moron or he's lying. I'm going to go with both.

He is a rich kid who is set to inherit a major fortune. This is the rich trust fund babies, including Trump, rat fucking the working class and the elderly. They are not stupid, they just have no sense of what it’s like to be working class.

[Poopymonster]

She was cool...

She was...I honestly wasn't aware she was on Fox. It hit me right in my teenage years celebrity spank bank, pre internet days.

[Felya]

I know right? I wonder if he was smart enough to actually copy it, we have shit like email, and clouds and whatnot, and all this technology, but we went with basic technology like the mail of all things?

I do love the irony of them going from impeach Obama to impeach Biden... Trump keeps talking about being treated badly, but it’s been nearly 12 years of GOP demanding Obama be impeached and now they are starting on Biden, before he is even elected.

The cherry on top, if Biden’s are a threat, just like with Hillary... he won’t do anything before or after elections, despite them being a threat... he delays information, in this case over a year, letting predators like Biden and Clinton just roam the streets. Then, once the election is over, he just forgets about these super predators. Can Tump supporters update their vernacular and chant lock them up for another 4 years, without any self awareness? Yes, they can!

Just a reminder... Trump got impeached as president, Trump the president can’t find anything on Hillary the civilian. The question really is, is this willful and cognizant action of his supporters? or do they really not realize Trump is the criminal lying about people that caught him? They scream ‘I didn’t do nuffin’ mocking people who get shot by cops... but, it being Trump’s default response to all the shit he has done, does not seem to register...

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She was...I honestly wasn't aware she was on Fox. It hit me right in my teenage celebrity spank bank, pre internet days.

Oh I knew, she has been a conservative radio darling for decades.

[kaid]

So, yes, I know that people have said this and everything, but you have to watch the bullshit that Tucker Carlson spewed.

Literally everything Tucker Carlson said is bullshit.

It has been proven in court that no reasonable person can believe anything Tucker says.

[Paranoid Android]

Be warned. Trumpkins will come in here boasting about the economy and recovery.

Many headlines are misleading. The Hill is leading the charge but also read a few from other outlets.

.#BREAKING: Weekly jobless claims fall to 751,000 in last report before election https://t.co/ZnFtftsJJd https://t.co/ZaERyfdoFP

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...754944002?s=19

JUST IN: US economy stabilizes in third quarter after historic drop https://t.co/CBMGtC6Jyg https://t.co/bITv4lZmFP

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...066329601?s=19

A good analysis is Steve Rattner below.

If you lost $100 and then got back $65, would you feel well off? That's what today's GDP number means.

https://twitter.com/SteveRattner/sta...333327873?s=19

Yes with any economic recovery the only place to go is up. The headlines seem as this is a strong economy.

You know Trump is going to use this.

[Benggaul]

If you think Trump cares about the American people boy do I have a bridge to sell ya. You said you have a TV, but have you ever turned it on in the past 3 years? What world have you been living in?

I've convinced myself they're a tertiary character from The Invention of Lying and as such not worth responding to further.

[Dontrike]

because it all but implies Trump isn't so much a president as much as a dictator. I thought there was something about swearing an oath to your country as an American president. So a guy that only cares about himself coming into office seems pretty outlandish

Yeah, the idea that Trump is an egomaniac that cares only for himself is so crazy, he's never showed that before. Are you kidding?

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So, yes, I know that people have said this and everything, but you have to watch the bullshit that Tucker Carlson spewed.

Literally everything Tucker Carlson said is bullshit.

Says they don't know if it's real, but says it's damning (Yay contradictions.)
Doesn't say the companies name.
For some reason used the mail for something that important with no copies, email, or even pictures.
The company somehow has no security footage that he could potentially reveal.

I'm sure those documents are right next to Obama's "real birth certificate" somewhere in the Deep State's vault.

[Breccia]

Let's check up on Trump's more recent statements.

Our Ruling

Trump said at a Waukesha rally the U.S. is "really not doing (COVID-19) reporting right" because deaths are being improperly counted and hospitals have an "incentive" to pad stats.

This is wrong on every point.

The U.S. is following the same COVID-19 death reporting guidelines as nearly every other country, which come from the World Health Organization. Under those guidelines, someone with heart disease, cancer or any other disease whose death is hastened by COVID-19 would be listed as COVID-19 death.

And while COVID-19 patients do generate slightly higher payments to hospitals if they’re covered by Medicare — due to a bill Trump himself signed — there’s no evidence this has led to any widespread fraud or incorrect reporting as Trump implies.

We rate this claim False.

Our Ruling

Trump said Biden wants to "abolish the entire U.S. oil industry." He’s oversimplifying Biden’s nuanced position — and baselessly saying Biden confirmed that oversimplification. Biden wants to eliminate federal subsidies for oil companies and use that money to invest in renewable energy. Plus, Biden supports the development of carbon capture technology that could help oil companies stay in business. Trump’s statement is inaccurate. We rate it False.

Our Ruling

Trump said "in Nevada, they want to have a thing where you don’t have to have any verification of the signature."

Trump’s campaign said he was referring to a lawsuit challenging ballot processing procedures in Clark County. The Trump campaign’s Oct. 23 lawsuit challenges the county’s use of a machine to help flag signature issues on ballots. The case is pending, so it will be up to a judge to decide if any of the arguments have merit.

Republicans argue that the fact that only 1.45% of ballots in Clark County needed signature cures translates to a watered down signature requirement. But criticizing the use of the county’s procedures isn’t evidence that the county wants no verification of signatures.

We rate this claim False.

Our Ruling ** McEnemy, but this still counts

McEnany said that Biden "admits to voter fraud."

This is wholly inaccurate. Biden was describing an effort to prevent voter suppression when he misspoke.

We rate this claim False.

Our Ruling

Trump said that "counting ballots for two weeks ... is totally inappropriate, and I don't believe that's by our laws."

He’s wrong. Post-election day time to count absentee ballots, overseas military ballots, and provisional ballots are enshrined in both federal and state law. In addition, federal law allows states until more than a month after the election to finalize their results for the casting of electoral votes.

We rate his statement Pants on Fire.

Got a special one right here for @Ghostpanther who seems to like taking Biden out of context with edited video.

Our Ruling

Trump’s campaign tweeted a video claiming Biden said, "Why am I doing this? Why? What is my real aim?"

The snippet gives the wrong impression of Biden’s remarks. Biden was quoting part of Pope Francis’ Oct. 3 encyclical letter.

We rate it False.

Our Ruling

Biden said that as part of the Obama administration’s criminal justice reforms, "38,000 prisoners were released from federal prison."

The 38,000 figure is cherry-picked. It represents the change in the federal prison population from its peak at the end of 2012 to the end of 2018, nearly two years into Trump’s presidency.

The federal prison population did shrink under Obama for the first time in decades, but the true decline from the start to the end of Obama’s presidency was about 12,000 prisoners.

The 38,000 figure also describes a reduction in the federal prison population — which can happen for a myriad of reasons — rather than the number of federal inmates who were released under or because of the Obama administration’s policies.

We rate Biden’s statement Mostly False.

"Whoa, wait, why are you putting up a Biden one?"

Well, I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't. Also I'm baiting Trump supporters to "find the rest" of Biden's lies, and good luck, I've already done that. Trump lies far more than Biden and far more seriously. Biden should keep his numbers straight, but Trump's lies are more blatant and more intentional. In fact, while Biden was caught lying (or misstating) his record, Trump is caught making multiple aggressive lies about Biden. Trump can't run on his record, and can't run on Biden's either, and seems to have no choice left but to make shit up. Too bad we have people who just believe that.

[passingthrew]

for those that do have a TV in the background, anyone find some of these anti-Trump ads ridiculous? The most ridiculous one was a guy hoping Biden has "the interests of the people at heart." That suggests, of all things, that was not one of Trump's interests.

So its clear you have not paid any attention the past four years. So why post here now?

[Machismo]

for those that do have a TV in the background, anyone find some of these anti-Trump ads ridiculous? The most ridiculous one was a guy hoping Biden has "the interests of the people at heart." That suggests, of all things, that was not one of Trump's interests.

You mean the white supremacist who is an absolute demagogue and narcissist doesn't have the people's interest at heart?

I'm shocked that you Trumpsters have gotten so bad at lying.