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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    How do you figure that? Previous changes to House representation have simply been done by statute.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    I don't think it would require an amendment, they actually kept expanding the seats up until around 1920 or so and then just stopped.
    I stand corrected. I was partly thinking about the 23rd Amendment and forgot that regular apportionment needed no Amendment.


    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    Both of those things are on different topics and don't require choosing between them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    The compact you are talking about is good and I support that too and I would gladly doing both of those.
    Sure, I mentioned as much earlier ITT:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiganon View Post
    I still think it is worth doing for the benefits to general legislation (smaller districts are objectively better at providing an avenue for constituents to reach out to their representative), but doing it in favor of the EC changes isn't even half the puzzle, you'd need to also do district based allocation with a statewide popular vote kicker for that to work.
    Oh, absolutely. I would also hope that a larger pool of Representatives would somewhat limit lobbyist spending as less worth it for a reduced effectiveness. It would at least spread the money out a bit more, at the very least. Maybe it's just the blind optimist in me that hopes that that would lead to more honest Representatives in general.


    Quote Originally Posted by Antiganon View Post
    Or just eliminate the EC entirely, or get a few more states on board with NPVIC.
    I mean... por que no los dos?

    But again, I sincerely doubt that the House is going to vote to diminish their individual power. Any such reapportionment change would likely have to come through an Amendment. The NPVIC at least has a decent chance of succeeding, without requiring the Amendment needed to outright undo the EC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Until:

    Joe Biden (D) / Kamala Harris (D)
    Howie Hawkins (G) / Angela Nicole Walker (G)
    Jo Jorgensen (L) / Spike Cohen (L)
    Donald Trump (R) / Mike Pence (R)

    Are all on the stage the debates are nothing but shows for the media outlet to get advertising dollars. There should be a law that every candidate that is on enough ballots to win the election by getting enough electoral votes has to be at every debate.
    Other wise the debate is a farce.

    (Yes all four of the candidates have enough ballots to get 270 electoral votes.)
    And in the system that is in place only the person with a D or an R next to their name will ever have a chance of carrying anything.

    No putting the other two in the debates will change anything. The EC voting works under a first past the post style. The style is purposefully set up to force two parties.

    Greens and Libertarians are wasting their time and money and would be better suited focusing small and working long term to knock off the D or R at house level.

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    I know people are thinking this is all a ruse being carried out by Trump to garner sympathy, but I'm not so sure. With how many Republicans around Trump who have tested positive for COVID, they would have to be faking it too. And with all these people and their staff, that's more people who would have to be in on the ruse.

    It's not a shock that a secret becomes harder to keep a secret the more people that know it, and if it got revealed that Trump was never sick and he faked it to gain sympathy the whole thing would blow up in his face, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I know people are thinking this is all a ruse being carried out by Trump to garner sympathy, but I'm not so sure. With how many Republicans around Trump who have tested positive for COVID, they would have to be faking it too. And with all these people and their staff, that's more people who would have to be in on the ruse.

    It's not a shock that a secret becomes harder to keep a secret the more people that know it, and if it got revealed that Trump was never sick and he faked it to gain sympathy the whole thing would blow up in his face, I think.
    I'm not sure many people are thinking this, to be honest. I mean, how likely is Trump to intentionally do anything that makes him appear human, let alone weak/vulnerable, even to garner sympathy?

    And he's been really trying to move the conversation away from COVID as much as he can for a long, long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I know people are thinking this is all a ruse being carried out by Trump to garner sympathy, but I'm not so sure. With how many Republicans around Trump who have tested positive for COVID, they would have to be faking it too. And with all these people and their staff, that's more people who would have to be in on the ruse.

    It's not a shock that a secret becomes harder to keep a secret the more people that know it, and if it got revealed that Trump was never sick and he faked it to gain sympathy the whole thing would blow up in his face, I think.
    This is just some derps running wild with conspiracy theories.

    He got it and will likely get over it too as it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Well I put the original on full screen and looked at various points. I really didn't see anything out of the ordinary.
    bloody hell, you have my deepest sympathy for enduring that

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    So the piece of shit is pretending to do the literal bare minimum of his job requirement, and wanting praise for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    So the piece of shit is pretending to do the literal bare minimum of his job requirement, and wanting praise for it?
    Since he was doing nothing except watching Fox News before and tweeting...

    Edit: looks like the pictures are publicity stunts taken 5 minutes apart fake news aka propaganda.
    Last edited by Draco-Onis; 2020-10-04 at 11:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Since he was doing nothing except watching Fox News before and tweeting...

    Edit: looks like the pictures are publicity stunts taken 5 minutes apart fake news aka propaganda.
    Just heard he's pissed people are poking fun at that.

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    That’s so smooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladeXcrasher View Post
    Senate business must be conducted on the floor, so no they cannot.
    Committee meetings can be conducted wherever they want. Nom is still in committee. They can continue to advance the nom til it passes out of committee (as long as the committee has a quorum).

    Here's the daily schedule for the coming days. Note that the 10.6 and 10.7 meetings are not held in the senate chamber.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayvio View Post
    bloody hell, you have my deepest sympathy for enduring that
    What, watching Trump choke on his own words over and over? It wasn't that bad

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    Trump infected his personal assistant. Or I guess possibly vice versa. Either way, he's positive too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    Just heard he's pissed people are poking fun at that.
    That tends to happen when you take pictures of yourself signing blank pieces of paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    What, watching Trump choke on his own words over and over? It wasn't that bad

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    Trump infected his personal assistant. Or I guess possibly vice versa. Either way, he's positive too.
    We have said he infected the republican party he is just doing that literally now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelannerai View Post
    I mean this current situation reads an awful lot like Poe to me.
    So, a spoiled rich kid who becomes leader without any actions or merits of his own watches as a disease ravages the land for six months, then throws a massive party at a location he's personally and recently redecorated to his own tastes (including iron fortifications), and invites all his friends, the disease walks through the door and infects them all?

    That's Masque of the Red Death. Poe wrote it in 1842.

    Poe nailed Trump's sense of decoration down perfectly, I might add.

    The tastes of the duke were peculiar. He had a fine eye for color and effects. He disregarded the "decora" of mere fashion. His plans were bold and fiery, and his conceptions glowed with barbaric lustre. There are some who would have thought him mad. His followers felt that he was not. It was necessary to hear and see and touch him to be sure he was not.
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    Sen. Ron Johnson went to the Ozaukee County Republican Party Oktoberfest Dinner while waiting on his test results.

    I’m not sick. I have no symptoms. I certainly didn’t anticipate testing positive, so there was no reason to quarantine.
    -- actual goddam quote

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    I think I've seen an interview with King where he said current events are not really comparable with his books because those are meant to be scary stories read in a safe environment where readers can enjoy the horror knowing their own lifes are better. Probably talking about 2020 generally, not Trump specifically.

    So Poe it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    I think I've seen an interview with King where he said current events are not really comparable with his books because those are meant to be scary stories read in a safe environment where readers can enjoy the horror knowing their own lifes are better. Probably talking about 2020 generally, not Trump specifically.

    So Poe it is.
    He tweeted yesterday, responding to someone who said the plot of the Rose Garden Massacre seems like his... Saying that it does seem like it’s something he would write, but needs more tentacles.
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    I hope a decade from now on they make a movie out of this. Based on true events...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    I hope a decade from now on they make a movie out of this. Based on true events...
    I was thinking we might get a Weekend at Bernie’s 3 out of this... but, based on Trump’s message yesterday, I think we are back to Chernobyl...

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    Latest NBC/WSJ poll has biden up +14 points. This was pre-covid

    http://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/10/04/2...ll.html?espv=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Latest NBC/WSJ poll has biden up +14 points. This was pre-covid

    http://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/10/04/2...ll.html?espv=1
    I'm curious to see if that is a major outlier, or if public sentiment has actually shifted. We should find the answer by Tuesday, or so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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