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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    So you are admitting Trump won't do anything about China so there is no reason to give him 4 more years to do nothing.

    EDIT -- I'm sorry...are you implying that when you claim we need vengeance against China that we should do that via the military? You want to start an ACTUAL war with China? Are you insane?
    He's made a bunch of threads about it, yes, that is what he wants.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    If someone doesn't want to work then they don't want to work. Nothing will change that.
    that should not ever be optional and why I like Trump. If you don't work, you should not be entitled to anything. Effort and determination should be the defining factors in granting life

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    He's made a bunch of threads about it, yes, that is what he wants.
    Well that's...not rational.

    No one is going to argue China's handling of the initial virus outbreak was horrific (that is except for Q1 2020 Trump who praised China for their handling of it). However you simply don't go to war with another country over a natural disaster including viral outbreaks. The US would not get support from our allies for that sort of action -- probably quite the opposite.

    I, silly me, thought it was a more rational line of sanctions, or other trade/economic retaliation -- which of course would likely ultimately hurt us more than them. We really aren't well situated to do anything of significance to China. And they know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That’s fantastic... the guy you responded to, saw people crucified along a road by ISIS... those who speak out, don’t have the privilege to not be beheaded if ISIS finds out. The fact that you and I can talk shit about Trump, without getting our heads cut off, proves you are wrong.
    the only difference is that of opportunity. if trump and his cult could get away with it they would definitely nail everybody else to a tree and burn it down while celebrating. those who wouldn't have already abandoned him in disgust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    If someone doesn't want to work then they don't want to work. Nothing will change that.
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    that should not ever be optional
    Totalitarian Fascist.
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    that should not ever be optional and why I like Trump. If you don't work, you should not be entitled to anything. Effort and determination should be the defining factors in granting life
    Except for retirees, the disabled, the underage, etc. etc. etc.

    If only effort and determination were the defining factors in life. However they aren't due to a whole host of issues -- none of which are people not wanting to work.

    I mean, if I didn't think you were out of touch after your "let's go to war with China" you sure proved it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Totalitarian Fascist.
    How much do you want to bet this is a whole lot of projection and Yuppie is really some out of work guy leeching off welfare? Kind of smacks of Orlong (I think it was him) who rants about the evil of unions and government workers....while belonging to a government union.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Effort and determination should be the defining factors in granting life
    As opposed to, lets say, being born into money? I can see why you support Trump.

    No, wait. I meant I can't see. At all. Surely you should be supporting someone who has worked his way up, rather than someone that was born there and has been tunnelling down ever since?

    It's almost as if these multiple positions you are taking hold no logical substance, and are merely intend to provoke negative responses. It almost feels like the kind of thing that infractions should be given out for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Totalitarian Fascist.
    you're describing Trump as that since these beliefs came out of his mouth as well. And Trump is no dictator psychopath. In his own words, he's a patriot and true (as in, you love your country) American of 70+ years.

    All in all, he gets my vote and I can't wait for the coming days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Well that's...not rational.

    No one is going to argue China's handling of the initial virus outbreak was horrific (that is except for Q1 2020 Trump who praised China for their handling of it). However you simply don't go to war with another country over a natural disaster including viral outbreaks. The US would not get support from our allies for that sort of action -- probably quite the opposite.

    I, silly me, thought it was a more rational line of sanctions, or other trade/economic retaliation -- which of course would likely ultimately hurt us more than them. We really aren't well situated to do anything of significance to China. And they know it.
    If we did the other part of protectionist trade wars (the part where we subsidize US manufacturers making products for US use), it could work.

    Instead we just raised prices in consumer goods via tarrifs and subsidized soybean farmers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    you're describing Trump as that since these beliefs came out of his mouth as well. And Trump is no dictator psychopath. In his own words, he's a patriot and true (as in, you love your country) American of 70+ years.

    All in all, he gets my vote and I can't wait for the coming days.
    Hes a liar and in it for himself. I hope you lot get crushed so comprehensively in the polls that theres no doubt in your mind that most people repudiate you and what you stand for. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    you're describing Trump as that since these beliefs came out of his mouth as well.
    Stop Lying I have not.

    And Trump is no dictator psychopath. In his own words, he's a patriot and true (as in, you love your country) American of 70+ years.
    Lying to Americans on the Coronavirus is not Patriotic, Praising people attacking Biden's Campaign Vehicle on the Freeway, and Having a secret Chinese Bank account is also not Patriotic.
    Last edited by szechuan; 2020-11-03 at 06:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    Hes a liar and in it for himself. I hope you lot get crushed so comprehensively in the polls that theres no doubt in your mind that most people repudiate you and what you stand for. Time will tell.
    thing is, people hated Trump this much when he was competing vs Hilary. And he *won* then. Who is to to be so assured he'll lose this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    thing is, people hated Trump this much when he was competing vs Hilary. And he *won* then. Who is to to be so assured he'll lose this time?
    You're going to lose lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    an example of doing this?
    Here's a whole summary:

    https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history


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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    That's concerning. What actions was he taking in the WH that didn't go on the calendar and took three hours? Is he mobilizing figurative or literal troops?
    He had to search to find a Ben Franklin to roll up for some booger sugar to get him going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    In his own words, he's a patriot and true (as in, you love your country) American of 70+ years.
    In his own words he's also a perfect physical specimen. So....who gives a flying fuck how he describes himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiganon View Post
    If we did the other part of protectionist trade wars (the part where we subsidize US manufacturers making products for US use), it could work.

    Instead we just raised prices in consumer goods via tarrifs and subsidized soybean farmers.
    Right. I was being general for the sake of brevity but yes we could go over China economically but we'd have to make major structural changes at home first to be able to absorb the impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Election isn't even over and that's at least one troll that is well fed.
    Well we all need something to do while we wait for the election results. Not much to discuss other than Trump's really strange tweet about a parade for him in...Nigeria? The guy is really losing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    thing is, people hated Trump this much when he was competing vs Hilary. And he *won* then. Who is to to be so assured he'll lose this time?
    People have had 4 years to figure out hes a racist lying Cunt.

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    i mean doesn't it scare anyone this is allegedly a free country and the choice is there to vote for either Trump or Biden but leaning towards Trump makes you a troll, evil, racist, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    i mean doesn't it scare anyone this is allegedly a free country and the choice is there to vote for either Trump or Biden but leaning towards Trump makes you a troll, evil, racist, etc?
    i mean doesn't it scare anyone this is allegedly a free country and the choice is there to vote for either Trump or Biden but leaning towards Biden makes you a pedophile, marxist, communist, violent anarchist, socialist, etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    i mean doesn't it scare anyone this is allegedly a free country and the choice is there to vote for either Trump or Biden but leaning towards Trump makes you a troll, evil, racist, etc?
    No, it’s a free country, we can say what ever we want.
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