Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[postman1782]

What did Trump want Esper to order, that Esper refused?

Esper was going to drop the Confederate names on the Military bases, which Trump stopped.

[Edge-]

Esper was going to drop the Confederate names on the Military bases, which Trump stopped.

Not just the bases, but everything else. Street names on bases, names of buildings etc. He wanted to functionally remove the stain of the Confederacy from the US military.

[postman1782]

Not just the bases, but everything else. Street names on bases, names of buildings etc. He wanted to functionally remove the stain of the Confederacy from the US military.

Sounds like a good guy, which goes against everything with the racism of Trump.

[Captain N]

This scares the hell outta me, have we had days with multiple states at 5 figure new case levels? And IL? It's got bloody half the population of TX and 1/3 the population of CA, those are bad numbers : /

You can fault the city governments outside of Chicago and Cook County for the failings of Illinois getting its shit under control. Governor puts up a restriction on dining and bars....local law enforcement refuses to do anything when places jam above capacity just to stick it to the man....all without social distancing and masks of course.

[Breccia]

641 deaths is a little over a hundred more than last Monday. The total is now 244,448. The 7-day average (according to worldometers) is now exactly 1k. And rising.

Biden is calling for a mask mandate. He has no authority at this time, and the states that don't have one won't listen. "Coincidentally" these states also had a large proportion of in-person voters.

[Felya]

Yeah actually I can because it’s true. The left likes to go after the right about social distancing, but the left has protests, riots, and parades. I definitely can “both” sides this. Everyone on both sides of the aisle is responsible for Covid running rampant.

Besides what others points out, how do justify the idea that Biden was hiding in his basement and trying to act like he was holding Trump like rallies?

When Trump was calling it a democrat hoax, were democrats actually right?

The pandemic response team was put in place by Obama/Biden administration, but dismantled by Trump and cut CDC budget by 19%, because his tax cut for the rich was too expensive.

No, Trump thought Americans were panicky, so he lied and lied and lied and lied... and what was his lie? Don’t panic about the virus, because of antifa? How is that not killing people for political reason? What both sides?

[cubby]

Yeah actually I can because it’s true. The left likes to go after the right about social distancing, but the left has protests, riots, and parades. I definitely can “both” sides this. Everyone on both sides of the aisle is responsible for Covid running rampant.

Patently false - you cannot "both" sides this at all. Remind us again who fucked up the entire response to this pandemic? And which party/group enabled that fuck up, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again? In the face of objective science.

The only way you can "both" sides this is if you embrace ignorance and side with liars and grifters. Let us know what you choose.

[kail]

Biden is calling for a mask mandate. He has no authority at this time, and the states that don't have one won't listen. "Coincidentally" these states also had a large proportion of in-person voters.

While I am glad that a record number of citizens were able to cast their vote this election, it would make sense that the polling stations would add on to the COVID spread. Even those who are infected and coughing their lungs out have the right to cast their vote.

Again, I am never against voting but there are simple causes and effects.

[Breccia]

Even those who are infected and coughing their lungs out have the right to cast their vote.

I agree. It's called absentee ballots.

[PhaelixWW]

I agree. It's called absentee ballots.

To be fair, it's possible to get sick after the deadline to request an absentee ballot but before election day.

Also to be fair, we could move to 100% mail-in voting and it wouldn't be a problem.

[Breccia]

To be fair, it's possible to get sick after the deadline to request an absentee ballot but before election day.

True. But then, a few states (cough NY cough) let EVERYONE mail their vote.

[PhaelixWW]

True. But then, a few states (cough NY cough) let EVERYONE mail their vote.

Some states *cough Washington cough* do even better. We're already 100% mail-in voting.

[Zan15]

125,689 new cases, about 36k more than last Monday. For a Monday that's bad news.

New York: 3,662 new cases; 32 deaths
Colorado: 3,553 new cases (new record); 14 deaths
Connecticut: 3,338 new cases (new record); 27 deaths
Washington: 2,365 new cases (new record); 24 deaths
New Jersey: 2,357 new cases; 10 deaths
Utah: 2,247 new cases; 2 deaths

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We spiked this last week to a new record after doing so freaking well the last 3 months.


Sigh, just ran out got my hair cut. said fuck it told them to buzz it on #2 since it will most likely be my last haircut still spring. Was also my first haircut outside of a friend buzzing it (bastard moved to PR last month).
Got my supplies for the long winter haul





Thanks for doing this and keeping up with it, it helps drive the point home!

[s_bushido]

Sigh, just ran out got my hair cut. said fuck it told them to buzz it on #2 since it will most likely be my last haircut still spring.

Shave it, coward! You won't.

[Justank]

Sigh, just ran out got my hair cut. said fuck it told them to buzz it on #2 since it will most likely be my last haircut still spring. Was also my first haircut outside of a friend buzzing it (bastard moved to PR last month).!

Jokes on COVID, I bought clippers years ago and have been buzzing my whole head to a 0.5(1.5mm) every two weeks since. Saved a lot of money honestly, $50 Wahl clippers have lasted all this time with just basic cleaning/oiling.

[Adam Jensen]

hmm so that makes what, 100% of his non white administration whom have tested positive for Covid?

No there's also . . . um . . . there's . . . uh . . .

Huh.

[postman1782]

Trump wanted Esper to order active duty military to maintain order (Insurrection Act) at the White House and on the streets when people were protesting. Esper refused, Trump got mad.

Link: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...-to-the-force/

Link: https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon...ry-of-defense/

Not fucking surprising.

[nonameelf]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...not-washington

Not sure if this was posted yet, but the vaccine Pence was claiming credit for was funded by Germany, not the US. So thank you, Germany.

[Poopymonster]

Shave it, coward! You won't.

After my winter beard, I'm going back to shaving my head all year. I think I'd look a touch silly with no hair but a full beard. I also don't trust me to even out the sides between sideburns and hair.

[Breccia]

I had considered going back through this thread for a "worst of the worst" list. Who knows, I may yet do that.

However, it's fun when someone does the work for you.



GQ lists the top 50 worst things, I put the timer at #10. It's not an exhaustive list, other than the fact it was exhausting to live through, and you might not agree with the order 100%. But, if any Sea Lion out there were to ask "I don't support Trump, but did he really do anything all that bad?" just grab a handful from the list and shove it right up their virtual ass.

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So thank you, Germany.

I am shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn Germany took COVID seriously and focused on science.

Wait, no, not shocked. What's the word...relieved.