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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    I would bet the final straw was that Esper was concerned about the transition, and spoke up about it. With Trump refusing to accept defeat, he is barring department heads from speaking with the incoming Presidential Transition team, which is essential to making things transfer smoothly. Esper was doubtless concerned with what months of gridlock followed by an extremely rapid transition would do to our entire defense apparatus.

    He has been on thin ice for a long time now, but the timing of it makes me pretty certain that he brought up the issue with Meadows, and argued for contact with Biden's team. Pure speculation I know, but we are going to see more of this. The DoD is going to be desperate to get this transition going, since there is so much to do. If they don't start talking to the Biden team soon, then Biden is going to have to start making important decisions without the pentagon's input, and that is nobodies interests.
    That seems likely - plus, Trump thrives in Chaos, and has said as much to multiple close advisers. This is just more of his bullshit to get attention and refuse reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And Ben Carson is now positive for Covid.
    So...Trump's tried to kill his doctor.

    I just thought writing it out would make me feel better.

    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passingthrew View Post
    He knows he lost so who cares about mask now?
    You would think they would! It's still lethal!

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    Once again it's time for Guess the Speaker!

    This policy framework applies to current world leaders and candidates for office, and not private citizens when they no longer hold these positions
    That's an official statement by Twitter, about to slam the TOS on the POS.

    It has added multiple warnings and labels to tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account, including many since Tuesday’s election that made unfounded allegations of voting fraud. It first hid one of his tweets behind a “public interest” label in May when the president violated the company’s policy against glorifying violence.

    Under Facebook Inc’s policies, it appears that after Biden takes office in January, Trump’s posts would also no longer be exempt from review by Facebook’s third-party fact-checking partners.

    Facebook’s online policy says it defines politicians, whose posts are exempt from fact-checking, as candidates running for office, current office holders and many of their cabinet appointees, along with political parties and their leaders.

    It says “former candidates for office or former officials continue to be covered by our third-party fact-checking programme.”
    Now Trump might challenge either of those, but here's the thing, funny story: Twitter and Facebook are both private companies. And let's face it, everyone reading this has clicked "Accept" on "We've updated our terms of service" at least ten times.

    Trump will have three choices.
    1) Build his own --

    "Yeah, with what money?"

    -- social media platform

    2) Obey the rules

    3) Be silent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    So...Trump's tried to kill his doctor.

    I just thought writing it out would make me feel better.

    Nope.

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    You would think they would! It's still lethal!

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    Once again it's time for Guess the Speaker!



    That's an official statement by Twitter, about to slam the TOS on the POS.



    Now Trump might challenge either of those, but here's the thing, funny story: Twitter and Facebook are both private companies. And let's face it, everyone reading this has clicked "Accept" on "We've updated our terms of service" at least ten times.

    Trump will have three choices.
    1) Build his own --

    "Yeah, with what money?"

    -- social media platform

    2) Obey the rules

    3) Be silent.
    I love ya Brec, but 70+ million still suckle at this fuckstick's teat, he will have plenty of investors lining up behind him to start a network/messaging platform. It will be good though, because it will weaken FOX, Facebook and likely the GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    I love ya Brec, but 70+ million still suckle at this fuckstick's teat, he will have plenty of investors lining up behind him to start a network/messaging platform. It will be good though, because it will weaken FOX, Facebook and likely the GOP.
    every attempt to move his "70" million has failed, they all come crawling back to twitter and facebook.

    They are trying it right now with one that failed last year....guess 2nd time is the charm?
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    every attempt to move his "70" million has failed, they all come crawling back to twitter and facebook.

    They are trying it right now with one that failed last year....guess 2nd time is the charm?
    I agree. Also considering Trump's failures at business, yeah good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Yeah actually I can because it’s true. The left likes to go after the right about social distancing, but the left has protests, riots, and parades. I definitely can “both” sides this. Everyone on both sides of the aisle is responsible for Covid running rampant.
    Unfortunately for you we have this thing call science which studies these things.

    Protests because of precautions taken and being outdoors did not cause a spike in cases.

    Rallies, however, caused at least 30,000 cases and 700 deaths.

    There is not both sides. There is one side.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    The "left" wears fucking masks and passes them out at their OUTDOOR EVENTS hence why there have been no spikes tied to protests but tons of strikes tied to fucking trump rallies where people don't think Corona virus is a thing...
    About half of them from what I’ve seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    About half of them from what I’ve seen.
    Well anecdotal evidence is not conclusive evidence and only the right has a campaign against masks, social distancing, science, doctors and any health measures.

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    Pence flees like a panicky motherf (cough) Pence takes personal vacation time in Florida until Saturday. Specifically, an island, which is how rich people socially distance.

    Besides the obvious motivation for fleeing the WH before he gets sick and dies, Pence is expected to hit Georgia on the way back to help the runoff.

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    125,689 new cases, about 36k more than last Monday. For a Monday that's bad news.

    Top 20:

    Illinois: 10,573 new cases; 25 deaths
    Texas: 10,251 new cases; 44 deaths
    California: 7,636 new cases; 28 deaths
    Tennessee: 5,919 new cases (new record); 15 deaths
    Kansas: 5,101 new cases (new record); 15 deaths
    Iowa: 5,100 new cases (new record); 9 deaths
    Ohio: 4,706 new cases; 6 deaths
    Pennsylvania: 4,562 new cases (new record); 6 deaths
    Michigan: 4,505 new cases; 32 deaths
    Wisconsin: 4,360 new cases; 17 deaths
    Indiana: 4,135 new cases; 35 deaths
    Missouri: 4,091 new cases; 9 deaths
    Minnesota: 3,926 new cases; 19 deaths
    Fuck Florida.
    New York: 3,662 new cases; 32 deaths
    Colorado: 3,553 new cases (new record); 14 deaths
    Connecticut: 3,338 new cases (new record); 27 deaths
    Washington: 2,365 new cases (new record); 24 deaths
    New Jersey: 2,357 new cases; 10 deaths
    Utah: 2,247 new cases; 2 deaths

    In what is becoming a running theme Nebraska failed to report on time. The report they--eventually--put in for yesterday was about a 60% increase in cases from their previous Sunday. Oklahoma's switching over to a new system and therefore didn't report yesterday, but the huge number they put up the day before appears, unfortunately, to be mostly accurate:

    Today’s individual case number, 4,507, is a corrected version of yesterday’s number with all duplicate cases removed. Today we will not be releasing a new daily case number, allowing our data reporting system to catch up and ensure duplications are removed from the daily number prior to release moving forward. Starting tomorrow, the daily number released will not include any duplicates. We are committed to giving the public and media accurate and transparent data, and this will ensure the daily number reflects the actual case count. We will continue to point to the 7-day average, percent positivity and hospitalizations in addition to the daily number to give a more complete picture of trends.

    We have no reason to believe our revised number is an anomaly, but instead shows community spread is occurring. We continue to urge all Oklahomans to take this highly-contagious virus seriously and act immediately to avoid large gatherings, wear a mask, wash your hands and watch your distance to others. Together we can bring these numbers down and protect our friends, family and neighbors.
    There's really not much for me to say here that you can't already see for yourselves. This is a lot of records for a low report day--a lot of cases for a low report day. Prepare for a bad week ahead. As I've mentioned before, 150-160k is not out of the question. Depending on how much this escalates...possibly beyond.

    641 deaths is a little over a hundred more than last Monday. The total is now 244,448. The 7-day average (according to worldometers) is now exactly 1k. And rising.

    Related news:

    Governor declares state of emergency, mandates masks to fight COVID--Better late than never? *sigh*

    NIH study: Hydroxychloroquine had no benefit for hospitalized COVID-19 patients--Because this still hasn't been hammered home enough, apparently.

    Fauci calls Pfizer coronavirus vaccine findings 'extraordinary,'--The one vaccine push that didn't receive any Trump admin funds under "Warp Speed" (and therefore Trump deserves no credit).

    Stay safe, folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Illinois: 10,573 new cases; 25 deaths
    Texas: 10,251 new cases; 44 deaths
    This scares the hell outta me, have we had days with multiple states at 5 figure new case levels? And IL? It's got bloody half the population of TX and 1/3 the population of CA, those are bad numbers : /

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    This scares the hell outta me, have we had days with multiple states at 5 figure new case levels? And IL? It's got bloody half the population of TX and 1/3 the population of CA, those are bad numbers : /
    And those aren't even records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Yeah actually I can because it’s true. The left likes to go after the right about social distancing, but the left has protests, riots, and parades. I definitely can “both” sides this. Everyone on both sides of the aisle is responsible for Covid running rampant.
    While being outside, WITH FUCKING MASKS ON. The right, 99% of them don't wear masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    Since the election, has there been a Trump concession speech?

    I haven't seen one yet.
    Nope, he is going to fight tooth and nail til the 20th of January when the Secret Service drags his entire family out by their cankles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    And those aren't even records.
    That combined with the number of new records is like...jesus, Mark Meadows was right. The Trump administration isn't even trying to combat/contain the virus, nor are many Republican governors.

    Whatever happens, happens, I guess. It's a good thing these governors and the president don't have to call all the families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    What did Trump want Esper to order, that Esper refused?
    Esper was going to drop the Confederate names on the Military bases, which Trump stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Esper was going to drop the Confederate names on the Military bases, which Trump stopped.
    Not just the bases, but everything else. Street names on bases, names of buildings etc. He wanted to functionally remove the stain of the Confederacy from the US military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Not just the bases, but everything else. Street names on bases, names of buildings etc. He wanted to functionally remove the stain of the Confederacy from the US military.
    Sounds like a good guy, which goes against everything with the racism of Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    This scares the hell outta me, have we had days with multiple states at 5 figure new case levels? And IL? It's got bloody half the population of TX and 1/3 the population of CA, those are bad numbers : /
    You can fault the city governments outside of Chicago and Cook County for the failings of Illinois getting its shit under control. Governor puts up a restriction on dining and bars....local law enforcement refuses to do anything when places jam above capacity just to stick it to the man....all without social distancing and masks of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    641 deaths is a little over a hundred more than last Monday. The total is now 244,448. The 7-day average (according to worldometers) is now exactly 1k. And rising.
    Biden is calling for a mask mandate. He has no authority at this time, and the states that don't have one won't listen. "Coincidentally" these states also had a large proportion of in-person voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Yeah actually I can because it’s true. The left likes to go after the right about social distancing, but the left has protests, riots, and parades. I definitely can “both” sides this. Everyone on both sides of the aisle is responsible for Covid running rampant.
    Besides what others points out, how do justify the idea that Biden was hiding in his basement and trying to act like he was holding Trump like rallies?

    When Trump was calling it a democrat hoax, were democrats actually right?

    The pandemic response team was put in place by Obama/Biden administration, but dismantled by Trump and cut CDC budget by 19%, because his tax cut for the rich was too expensive.

    No, Trump thought Americans were panicky, so he lied and lied and lied and lied... and what was his lie? Don’t panic about the virus, because of antifa? How is that not killing people for political reason? What both sides?
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