Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Belize]

Probably not a real thing. But now Trump fans are saying Trump should become a governor, and then they all move to that state...

Maximun Copium

I wondering, which state do you hate the most and wish for them to takeover?

Me, I'm ready to completely write off Kentucky.

Send them all to Florida.
The gators and the methheads will sort things out in no time.

[Thekri]

Trump wanted Esper to order active duty military to maintain order (Insurrection Act) at the White House and on the streets when people were protesting. Esper refused, Trump got mad.

Link: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...-to-the-force/

Link: https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon...ry-of-defense/

That was the root of the tension way back in April and May, not anything new. We don't know what specifics caused this firing, I highly suspect it is that Esper lobbied to begin transitioning (Since the DoD is a very complex organization to transition.)

[Mormolyce]

Yeah actually I can because it’s true. The left likes to go after the right about social distancing, but the left has protests, riots, and parades. I definitely can “both” sides this. Everyone on both sides of the aisle is responsible for Covid running rampant.

We had protests here in Australia. Massive ones. Almost none of the community spread of the disease was ultimately tracked to protests though - people wore masks and practiced social distancing where possible - but also it's likely that (a) the demographic that attends protests isn't likely to carry a case to the protest and (b) protests are not conducive to their spread. Almost all of our cases came from a failed quarantine policy for overseas arrivals, as it turns out.

So I'm not going to say protests can't exacerbate the spread, but the data seems to indicate they aren't a major factor.

Also you can't conflate the riots with the protests. Riots are an uncontrolled reaction to a breakdown of law and order. Ultimately the authorities are responsible for riots.

[unfilteredJW]

Send them all to Florida.
The gators and the methheads will sort things out in no time.

Don’t you put that evil on me.

[DocSavageFan]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...not-washington

Not sure if this was posted yet, but the vaccine Pence was claiming credit for was funded by Germany, not the US. So thank you, Germany.

Pence didn't say that the US funded Pfizer's research. He said that Operation Warp Speed program helped to accelerate the development of the vaccine.

[Belize]

Don’t you put that evil on me.

Sorry, Florida had a chance to sort their shit out this year and failed.

Justice demands retribution.

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Pence didn't say that the US funded Pfizer's research. He said that Operation Warp Speed program helped to accelerate the development of the vaccine.

Which Pfizer wasn't a part of.

Try again.

[Felya]

Pence didn't say that the US funded Pfizer's research. He said that Operation Warp Speed program helped to accelerate the development of the vaccine.

And their CEO said warp speed had nothing to do with it...

[unfilteredJW]

Pence didn't say that the US funded Pfizer's research. He said that Operation Warp Speed program helped to accelerate the development of the vaccine.

Which is also a lie and can be summarily dismissed.

[Felya]

Which Pfizer wasn't a part of.

Try again.

While they claim Biden is taking credit for it, by telling people to not over react and that we still have a long road ahead.

[Adam Jensen]

I don't hate North Dakota, but their response to COVID makes them the ideal fit.

And there's enough . . . lebensraum . . . for them there.

[alexw]

Pence didn't say that the US funded Pfizer's research. He said that Operation Warp Speed program helped to accelerate the development of the vaccine.

Except it didn't and Pence lied.

Operation warp speed will help speed up the roll out of the vaccine, but that's not the same as speeding up its development.

There currently exists no infrastructure for a large mass vaccination program, that is able to get 50%+ of the population immunized within 6-9 months.

That's the problem operation warp speed is designed to tackle.

[DocSavageFan]

Which Pfizer wasn't a part of.

Try again.

Pfizer benefitted from the streamlined regulatory process and the $1.95B deal made last July to purchase their vaccine...both of which were components of the Operation Warp Speed program.

[unfilteredJW]

Pfizer benefitted from the streamlined regulatory process and the $1.95B deal made last July to purchase their vaccine...both of which were components of the Operation Warp Speed program.

I’m not seeing anything here that has anything to do with the actual development of the vaccine.

Try again.

[Felya]

Pfizer benefitted from the streamlined regulatory process and the $1.95B deal made last July to purchase their vaccine...both of which were components of the Operation Warp Speed program.

No, they didn’t... you are repeating a Pence and Trump lie, that Pfizer denied... Why do you need to give Trump credit, for work of scientist he doesn’t trust?

[TACOshake]

Flat Earthers and Creationists are now trying to take credit for the vaccine...

Ok, where's Ashton Kutcher hiding?!?

[Katchii]

Pfizer benefitted from the streamlined regulatory process and the $1.95B deal made last July to purchase their vaccine...both of which were components of the Operation Warp Speed program.

Pfizer didn't receive any funding from Warp Speed, according to the Pfizer CEO and the regulatory process doesn't help with development, it helps with approval to sell the finished product.

Pence taking credit for this would be like someone taking credit for the work someone else did because they held a door open for them on their way to work, a door which they are perfectly capable of opening themselves.

With that said, he can take credit for maybe getting it to market faster, when it actually gets to market. But not for development, he and Warp Speed had nothing to do with the development of it.

[Hadriker]

Pfizer benefitted from the streamlined regulatory process and the $1.95B deal made last July to purchase their vaccine...both of which were components of the Operation Warp Speed program.

That's basically a pre-order. I pre-ordered shadowlands. So I can claim responsibility for its success. that's how this works right?

[Felya]

That's basically a pre-order. I pre-ordered shadowlands. So I can claim responsibility for its success. that's how this works right?

Hey, remember how they lost it over Obama’s “you didn’t build that”......

[Orange Joe]

Pence didn't say that the US funded Pfizer's research. He said that Operation Warp Speed program helped to accelerate the development of the vaccine.

What do you think said program did exactly?

[Belize]

Pfizer benefitted from the streamlined regulatory process and the $1.95B deal made last July to purchase their vaccine...both of which were components of the Operation Warp Speed program.

What does the U.S. government setting money aside to buy a vaccine have to do with the development and rollout of it...?

Do I get credit for Amazon's success, because I bought stuff from them?

Go be disingenuous somewhere else that cares.