Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Katchii]

Obviously saying that you will buy a hundred million doses at 19.5$ per shot of a future vaccine may make companies ready to build manufacturing plants and start production - before it is approved; so OWS may have accelerated the manufacturing of this currently not approved vaccine. (On a separate note EU claims they will pay less than 19.5$ per shots for their 200+100 million.)

However, Pfizer clearly want to distance themselves from it; that's how toxic www.loser.com is.

Giving someone an incentive to do something does not mean you get to take credit for the actual work needed to do that something.

It's like a drawing or piece of art you commissioned...you don't get to take credit for actually creating the piece of art because you promised to pay for it when it was done.

[PhaelixWW]

<sigh> 2pm on the west coast, and we're at 111k new cases and 1200 deaths already...

12 states haven't yet reported anything, including the top two.

[Zan15]

<sigh> 2pm on the west coast, and we're at 111k new cases and 1200 deaths already...

12 states haven't yet reported anything, including the top two.

damn my local shop had yummy steaks for 88% off.
I should have brought 90 of them for the lockdown

of course there is a reason they were 88% off i guess.

thank god I've been also buying extra 4 rolls of TP every time i went to store.
I can always use them to barter in the coming Winter Apocalypse

[Forogil]

Giving someone an incentive to do something does not mean you get to take credit for the actual work needed to do that something.

It's like a drawing or piece of art you commissioned...you don't get to take credit for actually creating the piece of art because you promised to pay for it when it was done.

True, but normally the one creating the piece of art will be graceful towards you; perhaps put you in it in some way, or some other nod.

It's rare that they run away from you - like in this case.

[beanman12345]

Www.loser.com no manipulation on my end...

absolutely brilliant.

[Orange Joe]

She said they received no money from the US government for RESEARCH. She never denied that Pfizer made a deal the US government that was related to our OWS strategy.

We really need to do a better job of teaching context and reading comprehension in our schools.

Yes,.... you're a clear example of why we need to do those things.

[beanman12345]

Obviously saying that you will buy a hundred million doses at 19.5$ per shot of a future vaccine may make companies ready to build manufacturing plants and start production - before it is approved; so OWS may have accelerated the manufacturing of this currently not approved vaccine. (On a separate note EU claims they will pay less than 19.5$ per shots for their 200+100 million.)

However, Pfizer clearly want to distance themselves from it; that's how toxic www.loser.com is.

But it didn't contribute anything for that. If you want anyone to thank for building manufacturing plants it's 100% the german govt to thank for that. Even the art analogy isn't accurate, because it's Germany who commissioned the painting.

[Katchii]

True, but normally the one creating the piece of art will be graceful towards you; perhaps put you in it in some way, or some other nod.

It's rare that they run away from you - like in this case.

They're not running away though they're simply setting things straight by saying OWS didn't affect development in any way.

The artist is simply stating the art isn't quite finished, that the commissioner didn't have anything to do with the creative process and hasn't paid anything yet all while the commissioner is trying to take credit for parts of that whole process.

The role of OWS in that whole affair hasn't even come up yet. They play the role of the agent who's going to take that finished piece of art and get it to the people who will appraise it, certify, etc... and allow it to be sold. At which point the artist can take it to an art show and sell it. OWS is going to accelerate THAT process.

Because the vaccine isn't even ready to be "appraised" (as the word I used in my example) OWS can't really take credit for anything yet, because they have yet to play their part.

[Breccia]

Back in 2018, Trump's DOJ blocked an investigation into Zinke after he was caught lying about bribery and grift.

Other DOJ members just ratted out the ones who blocked it. What else will we learn?

[Katchii]

She said they received no money from the US government for RESEARCH. She never denied that Pfizer made a deal the US government that was related to our OWS strategy.

We really need to do a better job of teaching context and reading comprehension in our schools.

They haven't received money for anything yet, from OWS. Because the vaccine isn't done and therefore can't be sold.

OWS, and those involved with it, can't take credit for the work being done and that has been by Pfizer because they've had nothing to do with it and will have nothing to do with until it is ready to go to the regulatory agencies and then be sold.

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But it didn't contribute anything for that. If you want anyone to thank for building manufacturing plants it's 100% the german govt to thank for that. Even the art analogy isn't accurate, because it's Germany who commissioned the painting.

As to the art analogy, Germany paid for the supplies needed to make the painting, while OWS is promising to pay for part of it when it's done.

[beanman12345]

They haven't received money for anything yet, from OWS. Because the vaccine isn't done and therefore can't be sold.

OWS, and those involved with it, can't take credit for the work being done and that has been by Pfizer because they've had nothing to do with it and will have nothing to do with until it is ready to go to the regulatory agencies and then be sold.

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As to the art analogy, Germany paid for the supplies needed to make the painting, while OWS is promising to pay for part of it when it's done.

really, germany paid for supplies, and production of the product and copies of the product. OWS will buy a portion of those copies.

[Felya]

The grift is real... This election shit, is just a scam to make Trump and RNC money:

Donations Under $8K to Trump ‘Election Defense’ Instead Go to President, RNC
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news...-president-rnc

A donor would have to give more than $8,000 before any money goes to the "recount account" established to finance election challenges, including recounts and lawsuits over alleged improprieties, the fundraising disclosures show.

[Katchii]

really, germany paid for supplies, and production of the product and copies of the product. OWS will buy a portion of those copies.

I was simplifying, but yes. Germany is paying for everything regarding production while OWS is promising to help ensure speedy review and approval process when it's ready for evaluation and promising to buy it when it's finally on the market.

[nonameelf]

The grift is real... This election shit, is just a scam to make Trump and RNC money:

Donations Under $8K to Trump ‘Election Defense’ Instead Go to President, RNC
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news...-president-rnc

That explains why all his lawsuits are shit and wouldn't change the election outcome even they were ruled in his favor. He's just trying to pay off his massive amount of debt that's about to come due.

[Katchii]

That explains why all his lawsuits are shit and wouldn't change the election outcome even they were ruled in his favor. He's just trying to pay off his massive amount of debt that's about to come due.

I'm fairly certain that those debts coming due are personal/business debts and in no way associated with him as the president or in any other political capacity, therefore the funding coming in can't be used for paying off those debts, legally, because the money is going into accounts that have rules and regulations regarding personal use.

[Felya]

That explains why all his lawsuits are shit and wouldn't change the election outcome even they were ruled in his favor. He's just trying to pay off his massive amount of debt that's about to come due.

Just make sure that if you know anyone that might donate, that they are aware. Knowing Trump supporters, they won’t care, but it’s something to make people aware of.

[Bodakane]

Can we stop feeding the brain dead Trump trolls ffs?

To be fair, we on the left generally want to feed the needy, and these guys can't afford food since they are giving all their money to Trump's legal defense fund which is actually just paying off campaign debt instead.

[YUPPIE]

I wonder how Trump will go down in history as a President now. It was a good run that ended sour.

[Corvus]

I wonder how Trump will go down in history as a President now. It was a good run that ended sour.

It would be somewhat hard to go passed him being the worst president ever. It was a bad run that ended farcically. But that is what you get with an incompetent manchild.

[passingthrew]

I wonder how Trump will go down in history as a President now. It was a good run that ended sour.

As the only one term president to lose the popular vote twice and get impeached. So an utter failure like he should be.