Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Belize]

He's lying about the Pfizer vaccine and his response to covid.

Oh ok, so the usual...

[kaelleria]

So basically the same talking points he's been saying for like the last 6 months.

Just remember everyone. its almost over.

Don't worry... We'll be at 300k cases per day by the 23rd.

[Inuyaki]

He's lying about the Pfizer vaccine and his response to covid.

BioNTech vaccine

[swiftowner]

Don't worry... We'll be at 300k cases per day by the 23rd.

I mean, not saying that is impossible, but what is your source on that? I can’t see us hitting 300k daily cases by the 23rd. I’d say at the earliest the 27th, but hopefully we only get that bad by the week after or later.

Edit: and actually, the 26th and 27th will likely be low reporting days, given the holidays, so it would likely only be reported as hitting 300k the week after. And perfect timing for Thanksgiving, because we all know the virus takes a break to let families gather together and wouldn’t dare infecting family members...

Edit edit: yeah... I’m not so sure anymore... looking at the numbers now at 6:20 EST... we might even go over 180k tonight... fuuuck

[DingDongKing]

Trump on Gaming.

[SirBeef]

He's lying about the Pfizer vaccine and his response to covid.

Of course he's lying. He opened his mouth. Anyone who takes him at his word is a sucker. He has been a public liar and snakes-oil salesman since 1973.

[cubby]

In case you hadn't heard, Trump mulling Pardons for himself, family, friends (see also future convicted felons).

[Timester]

So, Trump delivered a "fuck NY" and recycled speech.

I no longer understand the depths of his delusion.

[Bakis]

He should be shot as a traitor.

[Antiganon]

I guess for Trump, blue lives don't matter......

The secret service wears black, not blue.

Infer from that what you will.

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I thought one of Trump's intents with becoming President is to have people look up to him and be respected (and feared) by other leaders. That seems to be dying down worse every day since Biden's victory. So he probably won't leave behind a positive legacy.

Thank you captain obvious.

[YUPPIE]

it's a pretty depraved site, but I just noticed the Trump/Useful Notes page on TV Tropes is locked, whereas other Presidential pages are free to edit.

There's even a trope about Trump that mocks him and references satire against him. I never knew people disliked Trump that much historically. I thought that dislike was just from his Presidential run.

[cubby]

I know most of us are already aware of it, but like good and just news, it never hurts to see it again:

Lock Him Up? Here’s The Real Reason Trump Is Afraid Of Leaving The White House

One of my favorite excerpts from the article:

Indeed, once the president leaves office on January 20, he will be vulnerable to a dozen legal investigations and civil suits involving his business practices, as well as his taxes. He is under investigation for insurance fraud, criminal tax evasion, grand larceny, and a scheme to defraud, according to The New York Times. He could also face legal trouble for campaign finance violations and bribery. Not only does Trump face a number of legal battles, he also owes millions of dollars in income taxes, real estate debts, and other loans, The New Yorker reports. “It’s the office of the Presidency that’s keeping him from prison and the poorhouse,” Yale history professor Timothy Snyder told the outlet.

[Antiganon]

it's a pretty depraved site, but I just noticed the Trump/Useful Notes page on TV Tropes is locked, whereas other Presidential pages are free to edit.

There's even a trope about Trump that mocks him and references satire against him. I never knew people disliked Trump that much historically. I thought that dislike was just from his Presidential run.

He was lampooned as a future president by the Simpsons literally 20 years ago.

And if you honestly think Tv tropes of all places is depraved, rather than a black hole timewaster, I have no idea what to tell you. Maybe talk to humans once in a while.

[cubby]

it's a pretty depraved site, but I just noticed the Trump/Useful Notes page on TV Tropes is locked, whereas other Presidential pages are free to edit.

There's even a trope about Trump that mocks him and references satire against him. I never knew people disliked Trump that much historically. I thought that dislike was just from his Presidential run.

No, he's always been a felonious rapist con-man pedophile. It just came to the forefront after the election.

[Felya]

it's a pretty depraved site, but I just noticed the Trump/Useful Notes page on TV Tropes is locked, whereas other Presidential pages are free to edit.

There's even a trope about Trump that mocks him and references satire against him. I never knew people disliked Trump that much historically. I thought that dislike was just from his Presidential run.

WTF? Gordon Gekko was inspired by Trump... that’s 80s... The shit he did with the USFL, his renting shit, his involvement with Epstein, the 26 sexual assault accusations... all happened before he was president... Some people, just chose to believe him, instead of his near 40 years in public spotlight as a rich scumbag...

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No, he's always been a felonious rapist pedophile. It just came to the forefront after the election.

New Yorkers tried to tell you... he was a regular fixture in local news and even sports pages. As a delusion, rich idiot... I guess Post wasn’t national when their front cover story in the 80s was about Trump, with a caption... “Bitch, leave my husband alone”... because Trump took his mistress to the same resort his wife was staying at... because Trump is a moron...

[Breccia]

So, Trump delivered a "fuck NY" and recycled speech.

Big surprise, Trump lied.

Trump — snapping the longest stretch of silence in his presidency — began his remarks in the White House Rose Garden by touting the effectiveness of Operation Warp Speed, his administration's initiative to spur production of a vaccine, before taking aim at his home state.

"As soon as April the vaccine will be available to the entire general population, with the exception of places like New York state, where for political reasons the governor decided to say — and I don't think it's good politically, I think it's very bad from a health standpoint — but he wants to take his time on the vaccine," Trump said.

He was referring to comments Cuomo made in September, where he said he planned to have a panel of experts review a vaccine because he was concerned that Trump was trying to rush one out ahead of the presidential election.

Asked about Trump's comments, Cuomo told MSNBC, "None of what he said is true."

"We're all excited about the possibilities about a vaccine," Cuomo said, adding his state review panel would review the information on the vaccine at the same time as the Food and Drug Administration, and was designed to instill public confidence.

Other states are doing the same thing, he noted. "Ours is headed by a Nobel Prize Laureate who will review the FDA process so we could say to people it is safe, you should take the vaccine," Cuomo said.

In a statement, New York Attorney General Letitia James called Trump's threat "nothing more than vindictive behavior by a lame-duck president trying to extract vengeance on those who oppose his politics."

[Machismo]

Does anyone find it depressing that 10 to 20 or so years from now, schools will ask kids with the ol' question of "favorite President" and Trump will be the black sheep. The option people will only assume you're trolling with.

Why would anyone pick a white supremacist as their favorite president?

[Nellise]

Why would anyone pick a white supremacist as their favorite president?

It's a pointless question anyway. Most presidents are fairly forgetful. Other than the founding fathers and wartime presidents, very few made any impact that we recognize today. There's Andrew Jackson, most infamously known for the Trail of Tears, Teddy Roosevelt, who actually was progressive for his time and was the most famous person during his lifetime even without being president, and JFK, being the first Catholic and also assassinated, most other presidents are hardly noteworthy if they're from before you were born.

[Ripster42]

It's a pointless question anyway. Most presidents are fairly forgetful. Other than the founding fathers and wartime presidents, very few made any impact that we recognize today. There's Andrew Jackson, most infamously known for the Trail of Tears, Teddy Roosevelt, who actually was progressive for his time and was the most famous person during his lifetime even without being president, and JFK, being the first Catholic and also assassinated, most other presidents are hardly noteworthy if they're from before you were born.

Grant was an incompetent and his cabinet was corrupt as fuck. Harding's cabinet was also corrupt as fuck. Hoover was useless and, as far as I can tell, gave up on the american people after the crash, a seeming first for a sitting american president (which gave us FDR). Truman dropped the bomb. Eisenhower pushed for and expanded a shit load of social programs while decrying corporatism. Nixon for the EPA and gross abuses of power. Reagan for dismantling the middle class and taking the credit for the soviet union finishing itself off. Bush for being an incompetent idiot and being run by his corrupt VP. Trump being incompetent, corrupt, and gross abuses of power (as well as being the 2nd sitting president to give up on the american people). They'll be relevant for a while, even to people not born yet.

[kaelleria]

Something tells me Trump's lawsuits are about to get more stupid...
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11...ection-results

Trump puts Giuliani in charge of his lawsuits challenging the election results.

President Trump has put his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, in charge of his campaign lawsuits related to the outcome of the election, as well as all public communications related to them, four people familiar with the move said on Friday.

Mr. Trump turned to Mr. Giuliani earlier on Friday in reaction to the latest setback he faced in court, this one relating to votes in Maricopa County, Ariz., the people said.

The president’s advisers had warned him that they were likely to lose in that case, and he faces increasingly dim hopes of overturning the election results. Nonetheless, Mr. Trump has been trying every possible option to change the outcome and trying to get what he sees as “fighters” making his case, often conflating a media strategy with a legal one.

But the involvement of Mr. Giuliani, who held a widely mocked news conference in front of a landscaping company in Philadelphia last weekend in which he claimed widespread fraud, has vexed people on the campaign and in the White House.

A half-dozen other Trump advisers have described Mr. Giuliani’s efforts as counterproductive and said that he was giving the president unwarranted optimism about what could happen. Those advisers have said that they are concerned Mr. Giuliani is damaging not only Mr. Trump’s remaining legal options, but his legacy and his future opportunities in politics as he considers another campaign in 2024.

A campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. Mr. Giuliani did not respond to a message seeking comment.

In an Oval Office meeting with aides on Thursday, Mr. Trump put Mr. Giuliani on speakerphone so the others could hear him. He angrily accused the aides of not telling the president the truth, according to people briefed on the meeting. Justin Clark, the deputy campaign manager, pushed back aggressively on Mr. Giuliani, said the people briefed on what took place.