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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    the news on TV on all channels is really interesting tonight. It's all disparaging Trump, to such an extent that it's like another non-free country celebrating their dictator leader is gone.

    I'm wondering how it gets broadcast because it's so one-sided.
    Why do you hate truth? Should people provide equal time to racists? Slave apologists? Flat earthers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Election rigging? Propaganda?

    Dude, your guy lost. Get over it.
    At least he is showing his face... Look at even the gun control thread. Since the Biden win, it got bumped twice with ‘gg’ posts... then returned to the discussion of the right color of pink and bedazzling, for your guns, to freak out intruders... which I have doubts is a genuine discussion... call it a hunch...

    Trump brought them out of the woodwork and a lot of them are crawling back in...

    Edit: Oh and is this the appropriate thread to celebrate the defeat of Antifa that was so sound, neither media or Trump care any longer, and celebrating Hunter Biden not being president? We did it boys!!! USA!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I hope Biden and the democrats pull no punches in reminding the public that this is the man the GOP unwaveringly, unquestioningly supported.
    So did 70 million voting Americans, unfortunately. Trump is the Republican party and the GOP is captive to their voting base. It's well deserved considering they allowed people like Glenn Beck and Dinesh D'Souza to propagate the noise that led to someone like Trump winning the nomination with no opposition (sometimes encouraging it).

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    If it seems like the Trump cult is a mixture of religion, pyramid scheme and stoking manufactured national fear, then there's a reason for that.

    The two biggest mentors Trump has had in life are Dr. Norman Vincent Peale and Roy Cohn.

    Norman Vincent Peale. https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...t-peale-213220

    Roy Cohn. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/u...-roy-cohn.html

    For those that don't know, Peale was the author of The Power of Positive Thinking, which is essentially the indoctrination handbook for all pyramid schemes/MLMs. Cohn was the right hand man of Joe McCarthy and an accused pedophile.

    When you couple that with a man born with a platinum spoon in his mouth who has never been told no or faced consequences.....it is not hard to see how he became the walking coagulating and gelatinous pustule he is now.

    The Venn Diagram of: Trump supporters, people taken in by MLMs and people susceptible to nationalist propaganda looks closer to 1 circle instead of 3. If you sprinkle some racism on that......then you have the recipe for the shit lasagna we have today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    So did 70 million voting Americans, unfortunately. Trump is the Republican party and the GOP is captive to their voting base. It's well deserved considering they allowed people like Glenn Beck and Dinesh D'Souza to propagate the noise that led to someone like Trump winning the nomination with no opposition (sometimes encouraging it).

    "There was no need for this offense to come, but woe all the same to those by whom it came, and woe above all to those who whitewashed and rationalized it."
    There was plenty of opposition prior to him becoming the nominee. Plenty of soundbites of pretty much ever republican congressperson calling Trump out. Of course they went silent as they suck his orange pig dick for the last 4.5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s funny, because that comment was only correct for a couple of days. Once the red mirage faded, the polling is becoming more and more accurate. Outside of Florida, where the polling seems to have missed that no candidate has ever campaigned so hard and so long is any state. Trump did everything from moving there, to Florida being the only state to get millions authorized for chloroquine.

    It’s pretty interesting to think about, bur the reason the left didn’t get steam rolled the last 4 years, is the same reason Trump has the support to steam roll the left. Trump is the only president in US history, to never stop campaigning. You guys think Biden, or any other president would hold rallies several times a month, for 4 years? Now, imagine if he did his job instead... imagine if he governed instead of played golf. Imagine if governing under his ideology, was enough to generate the sort of fandom, being as close to winning as he was.

    I think that can be a hope... or a ray of light at the end of the tunnel, for folks who are weary of fellow Americans, based on the volume of Trump support. If this was policy driven, instead of having nearly weekly rallies to maintain support, would Trump be as successful in generating support? Would we all be more fucked, than we already are?
    Two things that allowed Trump to actually win. The constant misinformation to gullible Cuban and Venezuelan Americans that Dems and Biden are socialists and the fact that 750K people with felony records were not allowed to vote because of an illegal poll tax. If the Miami-Dade Cuban vote wen as normal and thos felons voted as expected to 60-40 Biden or more, Fl would have been blue.

    Yes the Dems are to blame for not being present for 4 years and barely doing much this cycle, but the GOP share of the TX and FL latino vote was around 30%. That's onnthe low end if what they normally get. The average 25-40% each presidential election for a while now. It's not like he hit a home run with them. Improved? Yes. But it's unlikely to be a trend upward since Bush did significantly better 20 years ago and they still have a minority share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    the news on TV on all channels is really interesting tonight. It's all disparaging Trump, to such an extent that it's like another non-free country celebrating their dictator leader is gone.

    I'm wondering how it gets broadcast because it's so one-sided.
    Quote Originally Posted by Break The Ice View Post
    The media is complicit with the election rigging. The MSM is just the propaganda arm of the democratic party.
    [Infraction]
    I fail to understand why so many people in the US are treating a presidential election as some kind of sports tournament in which you support for your team no matter what.

    Your team can do nothing wrong, the opponent is through and through evil and the referees (media/courts) are corrupt whenever the decision is not in your favor. It's all fun and banter during the game. However when you take it this far after the game is done and you actually want to "fight until death" for your team, we call those people "hooligans" in Europe. But since we are not talking about sports but politics, i'd say "terrorists" should be a better definition.

    It's really pathetic. What happened to the good old patriotic, "you can not trust the government"?
    FYI Trump is your government now and it's just an embarrassment that none of you self claimed patriots are actually critical about him. MSM are bigger patriots that you are. Hunter Biden scandal? You do realize that Trump is biggest nepotistic president the US ever had, his whole family has a job at the WH.

    When even Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says "We do not take an oath to a king or a queen, a tyrant or a dictator. We do not take an oath to an individual." shouldn't it ring some alarm bells that your orange god is manipulating you?

    And when Fox news is also fed up of his conspiracy theorist bullshit and doesn't want to loose all their credibility regarding spinning facts, you guys move to even more retarded "news" channels that offer you the supply for your retarded-conspiracies-demand. Newsmax and Oan getting rich on you in the same way trump is still grifting you to pay lawsuits but in reality it just ends up in his or the republican parties' pockets. Nobodies are now becoming viral youtubers making good money because they offer you an echo chamber "proving" Trumps' lies.

    Like Trump said, the elections are an embarrassment to the world. Yes they are.
    Seeing your orange messiah taking time off from golfing and tweeting, to drive through the streets in his bullet proof limo, getting cheered at, while covid 19 is surging like never before just puts the cherry on the pie of what kind of ridiculous joke the US has become. Yes, your orange cult leader made the US appear like a banana republic to the rest of the world, great example! Why would Xi need to accept Trumps critics on Hong Kong losing its priviliges? Putin is probably laughing his ass off atm.

    All I hope that the US gets their shit together fast and deal with this toddler. Or maybe that all trumpers would get their head out of their ass and live by the constitution in stead of trump's lies but I think their head went to deep and got stuck. The world needs a strong USA to counterweight China and Russia. By not accepting the results of the elections, the USA only becomes weaker in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break The Ice View Post
    The media is complicit with the election rigging. The MSM is just the propaganda arm of the democratic party.
    [Infraction]
    You know four years ago there was real visceral reactions to Trump winning. And republicans loved to make fun of those people who felt terrified about what might happen to them. So what do those same people do when Biden wins by the same amount in the EC and by 5+ million votes? 100% completely abandon reality and hold rallies as if trump won. Its so much worse then time its almost unreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passingthrew View Post
    You know four years ago there was real visceral reactions to Trump winning. And republicans loved to make fun of those people who felt terrified about what might happen to them. So what do those same people do when Biden wins by the same amount in the EC and by 5+ million votes? 100% completely abandon reality and hold rallies as if trump won. Its so much worse then time its almost unreal.
    I’d say it’s far better than last time, because this time trump won’t be president, regardless of his or their ranting and ravings.
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    Words to live by.

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    How absolutely gone conservatives are. This is a post from a veteran friend of mine who still lives in the Puget Sound area. Pretty damn sad how fractured this country is and the victim complex conservatives have, especially after 4 years of Trump and the shit he's said and what they've said in his defense.

    I’ve removed FB from my phone, it’s been great! I now have to make a conscious decision to look at it. I haven’t missed anything. Most wont miss me but I’m part of the divide and I’m ok with that. I hate the politics of my region and I can’t wait to leave, sadly it will be a while. If you’re still reading this you probably have my number. I’ve been reaching out over the phone only to learn that my friends are struggling. If you need me, call me. if you want to talk or meet in person, I will always be there. I am forever greatful for what FB has given me but how much has it taken in return? If you support socialism then there is probably nothing I can do to change your mind. I really hope my children can see the good and bad of social media and know the difference. I will miss a lot of you please reach out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I’d say it’s far better than last time, because this time trump won’t be president, regardless of his or their ranting and ravings.
    I agree with that. Perhaps I worded that poorly. My worse part was people leaving reality vs. some people shouting and crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woopytywoop View Post
    I fail to understand why so many people in the US are treating a presidential election as some kind of sports tournament in which you support for your team no matter what.
    Don't forget, Team Trump is a cult. I'm an Eagles fan for life, but when they suck (cough cough Sunday cough) I'll be one of the first to admit it. And, as you've seen on these very forums, even with the shield of anonymity, when Biden says something stupid or outright lies, I tend to call him out on it.

    The rabid fanbase is at the point where they would literally rather die than admit they backed a lying incompetent loser. Yes, literally, look at those mask mandates they're not following, look at the crimes they're committing. Kidnapping a governor? Driving from a Trump rally to the Philly vote counting location with guns what the fuck? Say what you want about Black Lives Matter, they at least are rebelling against unarmed innocent African-Americans being murdered in cold blood by police. I don't agree with violence as a political motivation, but at least them I understand. The rabid fanbase is looking at historic drops in American...everything, from jobs to international approval, and saying "Yeah we want more of this please, and we want it so badly we want to ignore the fact that it's now objectively proven we're outnumbered".

    Feel free to fail to understand. It's good that you don't understand. TWEETING IN ALL CAPS doesn't make you right, it makes you wrong louder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladeXcrasher View Post
    How absolutely gone conservatives are. This is a post from a veteran friend of mine who still lives in the Puget Sound area. Pretty damn sad how fractured this country is and the victim complex conservatives have, especially after 4 years of Trump and the shit he's said and what they've said in his defense.
    I don’t understand what he expected here... Seattle wasn’t going to swing right... Spokane is a quick transition...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bladeXcrasher View Post
    How absolutely gone conservatives are. This is a post from a veteran friend of mine who still lives in the Puget Sound area. Pretty damn sad how fractured this country is and the victim complex conservatives have, especially after 4 years of Trump and the shit he's said and what they've said in his defense.
    I've had multiple people on my friends list post the same shit. Every single one of them is a devout Trumpster, who simply got fed up with being called out on their bullshit.

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    I think I phrased that last post poorly. I don't mean news personalities slamming Trump, that's something you see everyday. What I meant was last night they showed footage of people on the street hours on end celebrating Trump being out of office, with lots of sayings like "it's over!" As if some nightmare ended.

    Was just in sharp contrast to those Republican/Right Wing rallies I saw for Trump that they don't air on TV for comparison

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    I’m hoping that this sort of deflagration of trump supporters off of social media and trump’s turning on Fox News really starts to put the kibosh on his particular brand of misinformation spreading.

    In essence, his supporters will be spread far more thinly in the realm of popular influence and they won’t be getting trumps brand of crazy stuffed down their throat by what many people still erroneously believe to be a legitimate news source. This will hopefully diminish his ongoing influence
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I don’t understand what he expected here... Seattle wasn’t going to swing right... Spokane is a quick transition...
    Sure.... say hello to those Spokane winters for me You dont really need to go that far east. Things get Trumpy fast in Monroe or Puyallup.

    Which makes taking the 8th away from them sooo much sweeter. Spending the past 3 years canvassing and phone banking there was worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I think I phrased that last post poorly. I don't mean news personalities slamming Trump, that's something you see everyday. What I meant was last night they showed footage of people on the street hours on end celebrating Trump being out of office, with lots of sayings like "it's over!" As if some nightmare ended.

    Was just in sharp contrast to those Republican/Right Wing rallies I saw for Trump that they don't air on TV for comparison
    If you don't understand why people were celebrating Trump's loss after 5 years of him being in politics I'm not sure we can get through to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I think I phrased that last post poorly. I don't mean news personalities slamming Trump, that's something you see everyday. What I meant was last night they showed footage of people on the street hours on end celebrating Trump being out of office, with lots of sayings like "it's over!" As if some nightmare ended.

    Was just in sharp contrast to those Republican/Right Wing rallies I saw for Trump that they don't air on TV for comparison
    Right? I believe you if you are less than 20 years old or have never bothered to follow politics until Trumo. Or are a non American.

    But im.sure you've seen the videos of angry mobs outside the WH and Al Gires house with republican voters scream for them to move out.

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    I also wanted to point out is all of these lawsuits being voluntarily dismissed by the law firms who started them, because they are legitimately concerned with being disbarred. Trumo is 1-21 His SHIT SHOW is coming to an end.

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/barack-...terview-trump/

    TLDR: "Trump has divided America and caused insurmountable damage" from Obama. After four years of silence, he finally comes out.

    Barack Obama: Well, a president is a public servant. They are temporary occupants of the office, by design. And when your time is up then it is your job to put the country first and think beyond your own ego, and your own interests, and your own disappointments. My advice to President Trump is, if you want at this late stage in the game to be remembered as somebody who put country first, it's time for you to do the same thing.

    If Trump just concedes now, will people remember him as someone that put others before himself or is it too late for him
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    It's rather hilarious that people who support Nazis and white supremacists don't think we remember what they were typing last week.

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