Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Benggaul]

162,149 new cases; a little under 35k more than last Monday. Hey, Nebraska managed to get their shit in just in time to make it into the...

Top 20:

Texas: 11,879 new cases; 78 deaths
Illinois: 11,632 new cases; 42 deaths
California: 11,209 new cases; 39 deaths
Tennessee: 7,951 new cases (new record); 30 deaths
Minnesota: 7,437 new cases; 12 deaths
Ohio: 7,268 new cases; 20 deaths
Kansas: 6,868 new cases (new record); 10 deaths
Michigan: 6,381 new cases; 55 deaths
Pennsylvania: 6,214 new cases (new record); 14 deaths
Indiana: 5,147 new cases; 26 deaths
Missouri: 4,673 new cases; 8 deaths
Fuck Florida.
Connecticut: 4,639 new cases (new record); 22 deaths
Wisconsin: 4,389 new cases; 12 deaths
Colorado: 4,296 new cases; 32 deaths
New York: 4,063 new cases; 36 deaths
Nebraska: 3,440 new cases (new record); 18 deaths
New Jersey: 3,435 new cases; 14 deaths
Iowa: 3,209 new cases; 6 deaths
Washington: 3,189 new cases (new record); 2 deaths

Other states with new case/death records: Virginia, Arkansas and Vermont.

At first glance it might not seem like many new records but bear in mind it's a Monday...so this is actually pretty excessive all things considered. There are three states with over 11k. On a Monday. Look for them to be hitting brutal new records later this week. I expect they'll get some company soon as well. Things are still wildly out of control across the US. Taking a state purely at random--South Dakota--their positivity is just south of 60%. That is not a typo. Trump and Governor Kristi Noem have done irreparable damage...not least because people are dying of COVID-19 while still denying that it's a thing.

We could very well crack 200k new cases daily this week.

739 deaths is a little under a hundred more than last Monday. The total is now 252,651. I think this will be a make-or-break kind of week in terms of what we could expect as this continues. I'm expecting around 1,500-1,600 days, but if we see 1,700-1,800 I would not be entirely surprised given the explosive growth of the outbreak and the numbers we've seen the past couple weeks. A lot of it comes down to whether or not there are beds and staff available for those sick enough to be hospitalized.

Related news:

At least 2 members of Congress announce positive Covid-19 diagnoses Monday--And they likely won't be the last.

Biden urges Congress to pass coronavirus package with state, local government funding--Because the current White House occupant is too busy hatching more conspiracy theories and fleecing his flock.

U.S. logs 1 million new COVID-19 cases last week, deaths up 12%--We already knew this, but A MILLION FUCKING CASES IN A WEEK can't be said enough. The rise in deaths is expected.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

739 deaths

It wasn't that long ago these were the high days.

[Benggaul]

It wasn't that long ago these were the high days.

Kinda. We skimmed about a hundred or so below 1k for a while about a month and a half ago. But we haven't been down to 700 as a "high" since July.

[Breccia]

Michigan state lawmakers announce plans to impeach Whitmer.

"On what grounds?"

The kidnapping failed.

"No, really."

Ignored court orders. Violated our Constitutional rights. Completely ignored due process and the legislature. Weaponized contract tracing databases to aid democrat campaigns.

"So, COVID restrictions?"

COVID restrictions.

Meanwhile, McConnell suddenly realized he already got re-elected and asks Trump to not yank all the troops out of Afghanistan.

The consequences of a premature American exit would likely be even worse than President Obama's withdrawal from Iraq back in 2011. ... It would be reminiscent of the humiliating American departure from Saigon in 1975. We'd be abandoning our partners in Afghanistan

Hmm. Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle late to be having second thoughts, isn't it? Funny, he didn't object when he needed the rabid fanbase's votes.

[Adam Jensen]

Michigan state lawmakers announce plans to impeach Whitmer.

"On what grounds?"

The kidnapping failed.

"No, really."



"So, COVID restrictions?"

COVID restrictions.

Meanwhile, McConnell suddenly realized he already got re-elected and asks Trump to not yank all the troops out of Afghanistan.



Hmm. Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle late to be having second thoughts, isn't it? Funny, he didn't object when he needed the rabid fanbase's votes.

Republicans are a special kind of stupid aren't they?

[Kaleredar]

No, we just need to stop electing insane egomaniacs in the first place. Lame duck periods are important under normal circumstances, because it takes a while to transition the leadership of the entire executive branch. There is a lot of administrative stuff to be done. The 43 Presidents before Trump all enabled that transition (Well, 8 died, but the 35 that survived to the end of their term (s) all transitioned properly).

If it's any consolation, I doubt Trump's administration has done any notable intelligence collection or presidential work in... well, let's generously say the past five months, so I don't think Biden and his team is missing out on too much in that regard, because it was never there to be given to him to begin with.

Biden might be coming out ahead going in with his already-hired cadre of... actually qualified people... without having to deal with Trump's sharpie'd over transcripts of fox news pundits that he was using to inform all of the white house's decisions.

[Fahrenheit]

If Trump just told his followers to put a bullet in their brain, how many would actually do this? It’s a non zero number, I’m almost certain of that. 100, 500, 1000?

[Belize]

Republicans are a special kind of stupid aren't they?

Add to that a healthy dose of maliciousness.

[Ripster42]

Trump's actions are proof that we need to get rid of the lame duck session.

Move the certification and inauguration to within a week of the counting being completed. Don't give the lame duck session time to do these things.

No thanks. A set date for transition of power makes those transitions of power more likely. Imagine all you had to do to stay in power was keep finding votes or sequentially asking for recounts from every state. It'd be years before the next guy gets in.

[Bodakane]

No thanks. A set date for transition of power makes those transitions of power more likely. Imagine all you had to do to stay in power was keep finding votes or sequentially asking for recounts from every state. It'd be years before the next guy gets in.

Adam wasn't asking to remove a set date, just move it closer to the election.

[Ripster42]

Adam wasn't asking to remove a set date, just move it closer to the election.

"Within a week of the counting being completed" means it's a floating date. The counting may never be completed. This isn't the only reason not to change to vague language like that or move the transition up, but it's a definitive one.

[Bodakane]

"Within a week of the counting being completed" means it's a floating date. The counting may never be completed. This isn't the only reason not to change to vague language like that or move the transition up, but it's a definitive one.

Yeah I think you’re missing the point of his post. He’s lamenting about the long period after the vote to the inauguration.

[Ripster42]

Yeah I think you’re missing the point of his post. He’s lamenting about the long period after the vote to the inauguration.

I'm not. I'm saying that his way of solving the problem, a nebulous date of transition, is worse.

[Bodakane]

I'm not. I'm saying that his way of solving the problem, a nebulous date of transition, is worse.

You're interpreting he meant a nebulous transition date and you're doing it at the cost of his actual point.

[Belize]

I'm not. I'm saying that his way of solving the problem, a nebulous date of transition, is worse.

How about this:

Move the EC certification date to Dec 1st, and the transition date from Jan 20th to Dec. 8th.

Boom, enough time to count all the votes and you shorten the lame duck session significantly.

[Breccia]

rump Sought Options for Attacking Iran to Stop Its Growing Nuclear Program

UPDATE: Iran heard about it and they are not happy.

Any action against the Iranian nation would certainly face a crushing response

[Gelannerai]

UPDATE: Iran heard about it and they are not happy.

So start a war for no reason, then claim that you have to stay president because of said war. Is that the “strategy” now? I wonder if the military would actually follow orders like that.

[Breccia]

So start a war for no reason, then claim that you have to stay president because of said war. Is that the “strategy” now?

I've suggested for years it would be his strategy...but that he'd have had to start in the summer at the latest.

The US holds elections during wars. It will not keep Trump in power, if Trump starts a war after losing.

That's probably why Trump was talking about "strikes" and not "invasion". he wants to flip the table, but not pick up the game pieces afterwards.

[Ripster42]

How about this:

Move the EC certification date to Dec 1st, and the transition date from Jan 20th to Dec. 8th.

Boom, enough time to count all the votes and you shorten the lame duck session significantly.

That's a better solution. Mind you, that's still 3/4 of a month away. It wouldn't solve the actual problem, just shorten the duration. The situation could be likened to shutting the barn door after the horses are out. The problem isn't really a lame duck session. It's lunatics in office.

It'd also require an amendment to the constitution. Too, if that were to happen, we'd need every potential candidate getting briefings/meetings like the ones biden is supposed to be getting now before they're actually elected.

[Paranoid Android]

Biden doesn’t want his presidency to be all about Trump, w investigations. He “just wants to move on,” per an aide. Another notes “strong school of thought that believes the law's the law.” All say Biden won’t tell DoJ what to do. w @kwelkernbc @mikememoli https://t.co/d0hCwOjviy

https://twitter.com/carolelee/status...257468933?s=19

I believe most of us see this coming.

First Biden saying he is leaving up to his AG, but he picks his AG. No way this is not discussed and I guess the AG can go rogue.

So here we go knowing the Democrats are spineless. So we have investigations for 4 years and Trump and right wing media feast.

Yes if Clinton was elected we would have been on our millionth Benghazi, etc. Projection? Yes we had 4 years of 'Lock him/her up'. Trump like no other acted as an authoritarian with wanting everyone in prison.

If people want to bring up NY state crimes, I can agree. Problem is we are talking about possible Federal crimes that should be prosecuted so this doesn't happen in the future.

With the crying from the right and Dems having no fight we won't get anything.