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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Trump's actions are proof that we need to get rid of the lame duck session.

    Move the certification and inauguration to within a week of the counting being completed. Don't give the lame duck session time to do these things.
    No, we just need to stop electing insane egomaniacs in the first place. Lame duck periods are important under normal circumstances, because it takes a while to transition the leadership of the entire executive branch. There is a lot of administrative stuff to be done. The 43 Presidents before Trump all enabled that transition (Well, 8 died, but the 35 that survived to the end of their term (s) all transitioned properly).

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    162,149 new cases; a little under 35k more than last Monday. Hey, Nebraska managed to get their shit in just in time to make it into the...

    Top 20:

    Texas: 11,879 new cases; 78 deaths
    Illinois: 11,632 new cases; 42 deaths
    California: 11,209 new cases; 39 deaths
    Tennessee: 7,951 new cases (new record); 30 deaths
    Minnesota: 7,437 new cases; 12 deaths
    Ohio: 7,268 new cases; 20 deaths
    Kansas: 6,868 new cases (new record); 10 deaths
    Michigan: 6,381 new cases; 55 deaths
    Pennsylvania: 6,214 new cases (new record); 14 deaths
    Indiana: 5,147 new cases; 26 deaths
    Missouri: 4,673 new cases; 8 deaths
    Fuck Florida.
    Connecticut: 4,639 new cases (new record); 22 deaths
    Wisconsin: 4,389 new cases; 12 deaths
    Colorado: 4,296 new cases; 32 deaths
    New York: 4,063 new cases; 36 deaths
    Nebraska: 3,440 new cases (new record); 18 deaths
    New Jersey: 3,435 new cases; 14 deaths
    Iowa: 3,209 new cases; 6 deaths
    Washington: 3,189 new cases (new record); 2 deaths

    Other states with new case/death records: Virginia, Arkansas and Vermont.

    At first glance it might not seem like many new records but bear in mind it's a Monday...so this is actually pretty excessive all things considered. There are three states with over 11k. On a Monday. Look for them to be hitting brutal new records later this week. I expect they'll get some company soon as well. Things are still wildly out of control across the US. Taking a state purely at random--South Dakota--their positivity is just south of 60%. That is not a typo. Trump and Governor Kristi Noem have done irreparable damage...not least because people are dying of COVID-19 while still denying that it's a thing.

    We could very well crack 200k new cases daily this week.

    739 deaths is a little under a hundred more than last Monday. The total is now 252,651. I think this will be a make-or-break kind of week in terms of what we could expect as this continues. I'm expecting around 1,500-1,600 days, but if we see 1,700-1,800 I would not be entirely surprised given the explosive growth of the outbreak and the numbers we've seen the past couple weeks. A lot of it comes down to whether or not there are beds and staff available for those sick enough to be hospitalized.

    Related news:

    At least 2 members of Congress announce positive Covid-19 diagnoses Monday--And they likely won't be the last.

    Biden urges Congress to pass coronavirus package with state, local government funding--Because the current White House occupant is too busy hatching more conspiracy theories and fleecing his flock.

    U.S. logs 1 million new COVID-19 cases last week, deaths up 12%--We already knew this, but A MILLION FUCKING CASES IN A WEEK can't be said enough. The rise in deaths is expected.

    Stay safe, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    739 deaths
    It wasn't that long ago these were the high days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    It wasn't that long ago these were the high days.
    Kinda. We skimmed about a hundred or so below 1k for a while about a month and a half ago. But we haven't been down to 700 as a "high" since July.

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    Michigan state lawmakers announce plans to impeach Whitmer.

    "On what grounds?"

    The kidnapping failed.

    "No, really."

    Ignored court orders. Violated our Constitutional rights. Completely ignored due process and the legislature. Weaponized contract tracing databases to aid democrat campaigns.
    "So, COVID restrictions?"

    COVID restrictions.

    Meanwhile, McConnell suddenly realized he already got re-elected and asks Trump to not yank all the troops out of Afghanistan.

    The consequences of a premature American exit would likely be even worse than President Obama's withdrawal from Iraq back in 2011. ... It would be reminiscent of the humiliating American departure from Saigon in 1975. We'd be abandoning our partners in Afghanistan
    Hmm. Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle late to be having second thoughts, isn't it? Funny, he didn't object when he needed the rabid fanbase's votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Michigan state lawmakers announce plans to impeach Whitmer.

    "On what grounds?"

    The kidnapping failed.

    "No, really."



    "So, COVID restrictions?"

    COVID restrictions.

    Meanwhile, McConnell suddenly realized he already got re-elected and asks Trump to not yank all the troops out of Afghanistan.



    Hmm. Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle late to be having second thoughts, isn't it? Funny, he didn't object when he needed the rabid fanbase's votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    No, we just need to stop electing insane egomaniacs in the first place. Lame duck periods are important under normal circumstances, because it takes a while to transition the leadership of the entire executive branch. There is a lot of administrative stuff to be done. The 43 Presidents before Trump all enabled that transition (Well, 8 died, but the 35 that survived to the end of their term (s) all transitioned properly).
    If it's any consolation, I doubt Trump's administration has done any notable intelligence collection or presidential work in... well, let's generously say the past five months, so I don't think Biden and his team is missing out on too much in that regard, because it was never there to be given to him to begin with.

    Biden might be coming out ahead going in with his already-hired cadre of... actually qualified people... without having to deal with Trump's sharpie'd over transcripts of fox news pundits that he was using to inform all of the white house's decisions.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    If Trump just told his followers to put a bullet in their brain, how many would actually do this? It’s a non zero number, I’m almost certain of that. 100, 500, 1000?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Republicans are a special kind of stupid aren't they?
    Add to that a healthy dose of maliciousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Trump's actions are proof that we need to get rid of the lame duck session.

    Move the certification and inauguration to within a week of the counting being completed. Don't give the lame duck session time to do these things.
    No thanks. A set date for transition of power makes those transitions of power more likely. Imagine all you had to do to stay in power was keep finding votes or sequentially asking for recounts from every state. It'd be years before the next guy gets in.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    No thanks. A set date for transition of power makes those transitions of power more likely. Imagine all you had to do to stay in power was keep finding votes or sequentially asking for recounts from every state. It'd be years before the next guy gets in.
    Adam wasn't asking to remove a set date, just move it closer to the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Adam wasn't asking to remove a set date, just move it closer to the election.
    "Within a week of the counting being completed" means it's a floating date. The counting may never be completed. This isn't the only reason not to change to vague language like that or move the transition up, but it's a definitive one.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    "Within a week of the counting being completed" means it's a floating date. The counting may never be completed. This isn't the only reason not to change to vague language like that or move the transition up, but it's a definitive one.
    Yeah I think you’re missing the point of his post. He’s lamenting about the long period after the vote to the inauguration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Yeah I think you’re missing the point of his post. He’s lamenting about the long period after the vote to the inauguration.
    I'm not. I'm saying that his way of solving the problem, a nebulous date of transition, is worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I'm not. I'm saying that his way of solving the problem, a nebulous date of transition, is worse.
    You're interpreting he meant a nebulous transition date and you're doing it at the cost of his actual point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I'm not. I'm saying that his way of solving the problem, a nebulous date of transition, is worse.
    How about this:

    Move the EC certification date to Dec 1st, and the transition date from Jan 20th to Dec. 8th.

    Boom, enough time to count all the votes and you shorten the lame duck session significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    rump Sought Options for Attacking Iran to Stop Its Growing Nuclear Program
    UPDATE: Iran heard about it and they are not happy.

    Any action against the Iranian nation would certainly face a crushing response

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    So start a war for no reason, then claim that you have to stay president because of said war. Is that the “strategy” now? I wonder if the military would actually follow orders like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelannerai View Post
    So start a war for no reason, then claim that you have to stay president because of said war. Is that the “strategy” now?
    I've suggested for years it would be his strategy...but that he'd have had to start in the summer at the latest.

    The US holds elections during wars. It will not keep Trump in power, if Trump starts a war after losing.

    That's probably why Trump was talking about "strikes" and not "invasion". he wants to flip the table, but not pick up the game pieces afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    How about this:

    Move the EC certification date to Dec 1st, and the transition date from Jan 20th to Dec. 8th.

    Boom, enough time to count all the votes and you shorten the lame duck session significantly.
    That's a better solution. Mind you, that's still 3/4 of a month away. It wouldn't solve the actual problem, just shorten the duration. The situation could be likened to shutting the barn door after the horses are out. The problem isn't really a lame duck session. It's lunatics in office.

    It'd also require an amendment to the constitution. Too, if that were to happen, we'd need every potential candidate getting briefings/meetings like the ones biden is supposed to be getting now before they're actually elected.
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