Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

This plan would immediately paint Biden in a negative way, and it’s probably also why Trump wanted to start shit with Iran right before he leaves office.

Maybe.

Too bad McConnell is on the record as saying "this was a bad idea" and that's the end of that plan.

[Benggaul]

157,261 new cases...and here I would normally say how much more it is than the week before except this time there's some confusion.

When I first reported it last Tuesday there were 135,574, so the difference would be about 22k more. However that was without the numbers from Nebraska and Missouri as they were both late. The total was later updated to just shy of 145k after the late numbers from Missouri and Nebraska came in, which would mean a difference of about 12k now. But again Nebraska is reporting late so that's throwing off the count once again (it would probably bring it to 16-17k once updated). I'm inclined to go with my initial "22k" number just for consistency's sake, but in any case it's less of an increase this week than it was last week by a decent amount, so let's take that as a small victory, hmm?

Top 20:

Illinois: 12,601 new cases; 113 deaths
Texas: 10,678 new cases; 117 deaths
California: 8,397 new cases; 30 deaths
Michigan: 7,886 new cases; 80 deaths
Fuck Florida.
Wisconsin: 7,090 new cases; 92 deaths (new record)
Ohio: 7,079 new cases; 30 deaths
Minnesota: 5,931 new cases; 26 deaths
Pennsylvania: 5,721 new cases; 38 deaths
Missouri: 5,630 new cases; 56 deaths
Indiana: 5,463 new cases; 89 deaths
New York: 5,167 new cases; 25 deaths
Georgia: 4,335 new cases; 41 deaths
Colorado: 4,331 new cases; 30 deaths
New Jersey: 4,140 new cases; 38 deaths
North Carolina: 3,288 new cases; 38 deaths
Utah: 3,178 new cases; 9 deaths
Iowa: 3,039 new cases; 37 deaths (new record)
Arizona: 2,984 new cases; 10 deaths
Kentucky: 2,911 new cases; 33 deaths (new record)

Other states with new records in new cases or deaths: New Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming and Maine.

Very few records compared to the start of last week, but we're still seeing the start of a slew of new records for deaths and I'm anticipating this being just an anomalous blip in the curve. Many states are now starting to come around and implement stronger measures to combat the spread of the virus, but given that that just started happening in the past week for the most part we'll still likely see the growth continue drastically through this week. I still expect us to pass 200k by the end of the week. I'd love to be wrong.

1,615 deaths is a bit under 150 more than last Tuesday and puts us in about the range I predicted. 254,255 is the new total. Illinois is bending under the weight of the new cases. Several states will have a hard week ahead. 38 states reported double-digit (or more) death totals.

Related news:

Midwestern governors share bipartisan message on COVID-19 safety over holidays--Cute, but the sincerity of some of them might be called into question given their past positions.

South Dakota coronavirus: The state is grappling with the nation's highest positivity rate--I mentioned this yesterday. Kristi Noem is taking a page from Trump's book on how to murder their constituents.

Black, Latino and Native American people being hospitalized with COVID-19 at roughly 4 times rate of white counterparts--I guess we know why Trump and the GOP don't seem to give much of a shit.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

1,615 deaths

So...2,000 a day by month's end, full 3k by new year?

[Benggaul]

So...2,000 a day by month's end, full 3k by new year?

The first...possibly. Probably. The latter? I sincerely hope not but secretly fear it.

[passingthrew]

157,261 new cases...and here I would normally say how much more it is than the week before except this time there's some confusion.

When I first reported it last Tuesday there were 135,574, so the difference would be about 22k more. However that was without the numbers from Nebraska and Missouri as they were both late. The total was later updated to just shy of 145k after the late numbers from Missouri and Nebraska came in, which would mean a difference of about 12k now. But again Nebraska is reporting late so that's throwing off the count once again (it would probably bring it to 16-17k once updated). I'm inclined to go with my initial "22k" number just for consistency's sake, but in any case it's less of an increase this week than it was last week by a decent amount, so let's take that as a small victory, hmm?

Top 20:

Illinois: 12,601 new cases; 113 deaths
Texas: 10,678 new cases; 117 deaths
California: 8,397 new cases; 30 deaths
Michigan: 7,886 new cases; 80 deaths
Fuck Florida.
Wisconsin: 7,090 new cases; 92 deaths (new record)
Ohio: 7,079 new cases; 30 deaths
Minnesota: 5,931 new cases; 26 deaths
Pennsylvania: 5,721 new cases; 38 deaths
Missouri: 5,630 new cases; 56 deaths
Indiana: 5,463 new cases; 89 deaths
New York: 5,167 new cases; 25 deaths
Georgia: 4,335 new cases; 41 deaths
Colorado: 4,331 new cases; 30 deaths
New Jersey: 4,140 new cases; 38 deaths
North Carolina: 3,288 new cases; 38 deaths
Utah: 3,178 new cases; 9 deaths
Iowa: 3,039 new cases; 37 deaths (new record)
Arizona: 2,984 new cases; 10 deaths
Kentucky: 2,911 new cases; 33 deaths (new record)

Other states with new records in new cases or deaths: New Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming and Maine.

Very few records compared to the start of last week, but we're still seeing the start of a slew of new records for deaths and I'm anticipating this being just an anomalous blip in the curve. Many states are now starting to come around and implement stronger measures to combat the spread of the virus, but given that that just started happening in the past week for the most part we'll still likely see the growth continue drastically through this week. I still expect us to pass 200k by the end of the week. I'd love to be wrong.

1,615 deaths is a bit under 150 more than last Tuesday and puts us in about the range I predicted. 254,255 is the new total. Illinois is bending under the weight of the new cases. Several states will have a hard week ahead. 38 states reported double-digit (or more) death totals.

Related news:

Midwestern governors share bipartisan message on COVID-19 safety over holidays--Cute, but the sincerity of some of them might be called into question given their past positions.

South Dakota coronavirus: The state is grappling with the nation's highest positivity rate--I mentioned this yesterday. Kristi Noem is taking a page from Trump's book on how to murder their constituents.

Black, Latino and Native American people being hospitalized with COVID-19 at roughly 4 times rate of white counterparts--I guess we know why Trump and the GOP don't seem to give much of a shit.

Stay safe, folks.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2020/11...fK-qk_B_Y72ois

Meanwhile this was posted by a guy in Wisconsin who ran for office in a city about 30 mins south of Green Bay. Here are the first few comments.

Biden come to my house with your body guards and try to stop me from having as many people in my home as I please.I dare you.

Wake the HELL up Joe. Not in my home. Masks are forbidden from house: gadoccer. And no Covid tests necessary. We're Americans with all rights and liberties protected by the US Constitution. For the love of God, why do people think the US Constitution is paused by an illness? For the many people who are looking forward to the impeachment of Gretchen Witmer (D, gov of Michigan) by the GOP controlled state legislature - after the Michigan Supreme Court ruled Witmer's directives to be unconstitutional - pay attention. Every "blue controlled" state Governor should be similarly impeached.

[Thepersona]

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2020/11...fK-qk_B_Y72ois

Meanwhile this was posted by a guy in Wisconsin who ran for office in a city about 30 mins south of Green Bay. Here are the first few comments.

Biden come to my house with your body guards and try to stop me from having as many people in my home as I please.I dare you.

Wake the HELL up Joe. Not in my home. Masks are forbidden from house: gadoccer. And no Covid tests necessary. We're Americans with all rights and liberties protected by the US Constitution. For the love of God, why do people think the US Constitution is paused by an illness? For the many people who are looking forward to the impeachment of Gretchen Witmer (D, gov of Michigan) by the GOP controlled state legislature - after the Michigan Supreme Court ruled Witmer's directives to be unconstitutional - pay attention. Every "blue controlled" state Governor should be similarly impeached.

Oh for fucks sake. WHY THE FUCK ARE MASKS A POLITICAL ISSUE?

[Benggaul]

Oh for fucks sake. WHY THE FUCK ARE MASKS A POLITICAL ISSUE?

They're not. People just choose to pretend they are because without conflict their petty little lives have no meaning.

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https://redstate.com/bonchie/2020/11...fK-qk_B_Y72ois

Meanwhile this was posted by a guy in Wisconsin who ran for office in a city about 30 mins south of Green Bay. Here are the first few comments.

Biden come to my house with your body guards and try to stop me from having as many people in my home as I please.I dare you.

Wake the HELL up Joe. Not in my home. Masks are forbidden from house: gadoccer. And no Covid tests necessary. We're Americans with all rights and liberties protected by the US Constitution. For the love of God, why do people think the US Constitution is paused by an illness? For the many people who are looking forward to the impeachment of Gretchen Witmer (D, gov of Michigan) by the GOP controlled state legislature - after the Michigan Supreme Court ruled Witmer's directives to be unconstitutional - pay attention. Every "blue controlled" state Governor should be similarly impeached.

You'll forgive me for not giving redstate the click.

But yes, assholes like those are why I'm not counting on the measures to help too much--or why I'm pretty sure I won't be able to fly to the States next year either.

[Breccia]

Oh for fucks sake. WHY THE FUCK ARE MASKS A POLITICAL ISSUE?

Trump courts the QAnons, the anti-vaxxers, and the science deniers because people who listen to facts and evidence wouldn't vote for a six-times-bankrupt serial adulterer.

[Bodakane]

Once again, if you despise trump, please, please, please stop linking his twitter.

Just copy and paste what he said, because every time you post a link he gets hits and that makes him happy.

Fuck Trump, don't make him happy, make him sad....bigly sad.

[beanman12345]

The irony of trump's latest tweet where he rallies Kemp to change due to his dismal recent approvals, when looking at the last 4 years of trumps approvals. yikes.

[PhaelixWW]

So...2,000 a day by month's end, full 3k by new year?

The first...possibly. Probably. The latter? I sincerely hope not but secretly fear it.

With today's increase, the 7-day rolling average has eclipsed the high mark of summer and you have to go back to late May for a higher rate.

[Breccia]

Growing list of GOP lawmakers clutch their pearls and say "oh gosh, oh golly me, I wish Trump wouldn't fire the nation's top cybersecurity expert, oh gosh, oh noes, oh gosh".

This is your fault. You backed him. Either do something about it or accept the blame.

[Kaleredar]

Growing list of GOP lawmakers clutch their pearls and say "oh gosh, oh golly me, I wish Trump wouldn't fire the nation's top cybersecurity expert, oh gosh, oh noes, oh gosh".

This is your fault. You backed him. Either do something about it or accept the blame.

If push comes to shove, I'd imagine... Biden could just re-hire all of the actually qualified people right back on board.

[Fugus]

I don't see a comments section. What does it say?

The first post

I’m torn on this one. I totally understand the “bring the boys home” mentality, but having spent a few years in southern Afghanistan during my marine corps career I’m not sure I agree. If that’s the mentality I don’t believe we should have gone in the first place. To leave is to turn the country over to the terrorists again. That feels like an insult to the people who gave their lives there. Not to mention, I distinctly remember asking a local national why they didn’t trust us on my first deployment. He responded “you’ll just leave. We’ve seen it before”. He’s right. We did it in the 70s and we’re turning around and committing the same mistake again. Believe me, I don’t want people dying for a lost cause, but I’m also aware people join the military to go to war. It’s the entire purpose of the military, and this fight isn’t over. If we didn’t want to see it through we shouldn’t have started it. I feel like this is us making a second mistake trying to correct the first.

[Breccia]

With today's increase, the 7-day rolling average has eclipsed the high mark of summer and you have to go back to late May for a higher rate.

I would like to believe that, with all we've learned since Trump invited the virus inside our borders, that we learned how to keep the cases-deaths ratio on the safer side.

But with cases at these levels, it's like trying to empty a lake with a ladle.

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So it should be no surprise that PolitiFact got hold of McEnemy's claim that over a million people marched for Trump.

In her tweet, McEnany included two screenshots of a Fox News broadcast about the gatherings. The footage shows demonstrators on a street near Freedom Plaza, which is a few blocks east of the White House, a little after 11 a.m. Eastern Time.

McEnany tweeted her estimate at 11:16 a.m. ET, before the marches were officially set to begin at noon. It’s also not possible for more than 135,000 people to fit into Freedom Plaza and the surrounding streets and sidewalks, according to MapChecking, an online tool that uses a mathematical equation to estimate how many people can fit in a given location.

The stills that McEnany shared show plenty of space between demonstrators. For there to be 105,000 people depicted in the photos, which MapChecking classifies as "packed" for the location, there would have to have been four people per square meter. The National Park Service says the maximum capacity for Freedom Plaza is 13,900.

So there you have it. McEnemy was off by two entire orders of magnitude. Let\s talk about orders of magnitude.

Being wrong by one order of magnitude is like Trump bragging he has a four-foot dick.

Being wrong by two orders of magnitude is ike Trump bragging he has a forty-foot dick.

Being wrong by three orders of magnitude, such as claiming there were 2.7 million swapped votes and the maximum total incorrect votes adds up to a few thousand, is like Trump claiming he has a dick longer than a football field, including both end zones.

I think this should be the new standard of lying. The "how long did Trump say his dick was" scale.

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The FOX News top headline is Dem governors impose new COVID restrictions, including what you can do in your own home

"Oh, so they skippped North Dakota?"

Actually, the mention ND.

"Did they mention Arkansas?"

First, actually. They did it alphabetically.

"Indiana?"

Yes.

"What about..."

One of the few GOP Governors who seems to be taking COVID-19 seriously, Gov. Larry Hogan of Maryland holds a press conference in which he announces new measures to combat the virus. Most of it looks good, except I don't understand this "bars and restaurants close at 10pm" bullshit that all of the governors seem to want to try. This isn't the time for half-assing it.

Yes, they m

"Did they--:

OKAY! Yes! FOX News has an intentionally disingenuous headline to distract from Trump throwing a goddam steam temper tantrum.

You know what else they ran with?

2) Harvard signing a petition to ban Trump's yes-men

3) An out-of-context clip making it look like Obama didn't think he deserved his own Nobel Prize

"Wow, FOX News is more desperate and petty than usual. And 4 and 5 are usually Florida Man or other--"

Ohohoho. No.

4) McConnell giving Harris a fist-bump.

"Wow, FOX News is that desperate?"

And 5) How Twitter and Facebook cost Trump the election.

"Is FOX News trying to get back in Trump's good graces? There's no other good reason to field that."

I guess? Quoting that last one.

They did it by hiding the Hunter Biden story

And I'm done quoting that last one.

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China refers to Trump's final ten weeks as his "final madness" and claims they are prepared to deal with it.

Well if nothing else, Trump won't attack China.

[Crispin]

This lame duck period might just be the prequel to a new round of "The apprentice". Trump's doing the only thing he feels comfortaboe with, firing people. "Oh no don't fire me 2 months before I'm fired anyway!"

[Fugus]

This lame duck period might just be the prequel to a new round of "The apprentice". Trump's doing the only thing he feels comfortaboe with, firing people. "Oh no don't fire me 2 months before I'm fired anyway!"

The Apprentice? Good luck with that given the shear magnitude of charges he is already facing, let alone with Barr, Manuchin and the Republicans can't protect him anymore. And I am not talking about protecting him from Biden, but from a DOJ who actually does their job, and a Secretary that honors the Ways and Means Committees legal requests, along with Pelosi and her corruption probes she better be teeing up.

Trump, Barr, Kavanaugh, Manuchin, and HOPEFULLY McConnell, Graham and a few other Republican politicians hopefully get outed in all of it as well.

All of that assuming the Democrats actually show some balls for the first time in as long as I can think back.

[beanman12345]

This lame duck period might just be the prequel to a new round of "The apprentice". Trump's doing the only thing he feels comfortaboe with, firing people. "Oh no don't fire me 2 months before I'm fired anyway!"

I like to think of it as a spinoff of the apprentice called "the coup." In today's episode, Rudy Giuliani orchestrated a coup to oust trump legal campaign team and insert himself as head of Trump's legal team to keep Trump in office. A coup inside a coup. coup-ception?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/infi...ry?id=74257079

[woopytywoop]

Once again, if you despise trump, please, please, please stop linking his twitter.

Just copy and paste what he said, because every time you post a link he gets hits and that makes him happy.

Fuck Trump, don't make him happy, make him sad....bigly sad.

Ironically a lot of his twitter "followers", just follow him to laugh with his posts and are not supporters.

[postman1782]

Ironically a lot of his twitter "followers", just follow him to laugh with his posts and are not supporters.

Most of Trump's Twitter followers are actually bots. https://qz.com/1422395/how-many-of-d...wers-are-fake/

That was 2018. But 61% of his followers then were bots.