Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Felya]

dont you have to be prosecuted for something to be pardoned?

i assume giving out get out of jail free cards isnt a thing.

I’m getting flashbacks to ‘Will Obama pardon Hillary’... remember when that was a thing?

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since you people think Trump doesn't have a lot of goodwill, how will he win in 2024? He's already looking towards the future.

Is that why he is still milking money from his supporters towards stopping the election ‘steal’? You think in 2024, when the popular vote breaking 100 million for the first time in voting against Trump sets a new record, Trump will still be confused why so many vote for his opponent? Setting records in loosing the popular vote to people who need an iron lung and those with dementia, isn’t something Trump will understand in 4 years... I don’t think you will either...

[Gorsameth]

I don't understand. How does restricting freedom of Speech have anything to do with defense policy? Last I checked, the DoD didn't communicate with the troops by Twitter. Well except for Trump, but Twitter already has special rules for Trump. This doesn't seem related to defense policy at all.

Can anyone defending Trump, such as @Kokolmus for example, explain how this demand has anything to do with defense policy? I guess until some Trump defender wants to explain how Twitter has anything to do with defense policy, Trump is just withholding money and supplies from American troops in the field until Biden takes the helm and immediately signs it.

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NBC News looked at PPP recipients and in a result that surprised literally negative people, found Trump took millions of dollars of taxpayer money and kept it for himself.



Obviously some of those are worse than others but man, that bolded. Trump is a miserable failure of a businessman.

And as NBC News says, because a curiously large number of PPP loans went to businesses with no contact information -- how??? -- it could be even more.

Just so everyone's clear: $3.65 million is more than Trump's salary. Oh, and that doesn't even include the taxpayer money he spent to go golfing.

Two hundred ninety-two times. Combined cost $142 million.

Just another thing for the Biden administration to investigate and hit companies with fraudulant claim charges.

[Breccia]

Just another thing for the Biden administration to investigate and hit companies with fraudulant claim charges.

Sadly, I don't see that working here.

I just think that the GOP included PPP rules that allowed this sort of thing for their rich friends, and Trump took advantage of the rules like it was a teenage girl backstage at a beauty pageant.

[alexw]

since you people think Trump doesn't have a lot of goodwill, how will he win in 2024? He's already looking towards the future.

He won't. Its extremely extremely rare for big time losers like Trump who have been booted out of office to run and win again.

So it'd be remarkably stupid for republicans to nominate him as their candidate again which almost certainly means they will if they can, which is why republican officialdom is praying that democrats do them a favor and send him to jail.

[Felya]

Why are you so enamored with Trump specifically?

Similar make up regiment? Wait... I don’t think this poster is a drag queen...

[Noxx79]

Why are you so enamored with Trump specifically?

Look their posts and threads. They have a fascist fetish. They clearly don’t want to be in control of their own lives and want someone dictating their day to day activities.

[Kaleredar]

Look their posts and threads. They have a fascist fetish. They clearly don’t want to be in control of their own lives and want someone dictating their day to day activities.

I think they’re just trolling. All they do is pop in, post a series of “begging the question” posts that highlight some “virtue” of trump or cast aspersions on criticisms of him, never really respond to anyone and then eventually just dip out again.

You know bad faith posters when all they do is post vague questions “suggesting” a viewpoint and never actually own up to asserting anything. Lockedout did the exact same kind of thing.

[wunksta]

I don't understand. How does restricting freedom of Speech have anything to do with defense policy? Last I checked, the DoD didn't communicate with the troops by Twitter. Well except for Trump, but Twitter already has special rules for Trump. This doesn't seem related to defense policy at all.

Can anyone defending Trump, such as @Kokolmus for example, explain how this demand has anything to do with defense policy? I guess until some Trump defender wants to explain how Twitter has anything to do with defense policy, Trump is just withholding money and supplies from American troops in the field until Biden takes the helm and immediately signs it.

Saying mean things about the president is a threat to national security.

[Noxx79]

I think they’re just trolling. All they do is pop in, post a series of “begging the question” posts that highlight some “virtue” of trump or cast aspersions on criticisms of him, never really respond to anyone and then eventually just dip out again.

You know bad faith posters when all they do is post vague questions “suggesting” a viewpoint and never actually own up to asserting anything. Lockedout did the exact same kind of thing.

Poe’s Law is a truth for me lol.

[masterhorus8]

NBC News looked at PPP recipients and in a result that surprised literally negative people, found Trump took millions of dollars of taxpayer money and kept it for himself.



Obviously some of those are worse than others but man, that bolded. Trump is a miserable failure of a businessman.

And as NBC News says, because a curiously large number of PPP loans went to businesses with no contact information -- how??? -- it could be even more.

Just so everyone's clear: $3.65 million is more than Trump's salary. Oh, and that doesn't even include the taxpayer money he spent to go golfing.

Two hundred ninety-two times. Combined cost $142 million.

Am I remembering correctly in that he wasn't supposed to be able to benefit directly from those loans?

[Breccia]

Am I remembering correctly in that he wasn't supposed to be able to benefit directly from those loans?

You remember correctly. Or at least, you should have.

Coronavirus Package Would Bar Trump And Lawmakers From Funds and dozens of other articles say that was the intent.

[cubby]

Just another thing for the Biden administration to investigate and hit companies with fraudulant claim charges.

It will be interesting to see how Biden and the House of Representatives handle this if the Senate doesn't flip.

[pathora44]

You remember correctly. Or at least, you should have.

Coronavirus Package Would Bar Trump And Lawmakers From Funds and dozens of other articles say that was the intent.

Ah but you forget that almost immediately after signing the coronavirus package Trump for all intents and purposes fired the inspector general in charge of overseeing where and how the money was sent. Democrats cried foul and Republicans shrugged their shoulders and told them to stop bitching and now Trump has lined his pockets with millions more of America's tax money.

[Benggaul]

Mark Kelly was just sworn in as an Arizona Senator. Do you think we can get a fundraiser going for McSally to have her run in other Senatorial races? I'm liking her track record so far.

[alexw]

It will be interesting to see how Biden and the House of Representatives handle this if the Senate doesn't flip.

The republican party will want Trump gone so that he doesn't screw up their 2024 chances so they'll be hoping that democrats will "lock him up!".

They can't say so of course because their base has pretty much become a Trump death cult, but I'd expect them to grease the pathway for Trumps arrest if they can do it without leaving any fingerprints that they helped.

[Edge-]

Mnuchin asking Katie Porter if she’s a lawyer is some quality comedy.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c49268...-porter-bicker


video for anyone interested, Mnuchin is being a right piece of shit.

[Breccia]

Mnuchin asking Katie Porter if she’s a lawyer is some quality comedy.

Is he? Based purely on being a member of Team Trump, the odds aren't great.

[Benggaul]

Is he? Based purely on being a member of Team Trump, the odds aren't great.

No, he's not. And she called him on it. It was pretty great.

[Breccia]

No, he's not. And she called him on it. It was pretty great.

Outstanding.

Oh, and White House warns COVID-19 cases at dire levels, says patient care could be compromised so...yeah, that's not something to look forward to.

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No, he's not. And she called him on it. It was pretty great.

Katie Porter in heated exchange with Mnuchin: 'You're play-acting to be a lawyer'

Porter specifically grilled Mnuchin over his support to move $455 billion in COVID-19 relief from the Federal Reserve back into the Treasury’s General Fund, a move that would make it harder for his successor to access the emergency funding.

Porter cited that under the CARES Act, any remaining funds may be moved to the Treasury only “on or after January 1, 2026.”

“Secretary Mnuchin, is it currently the year 2026, yes or no?” the congresswoman asked via video conference at the hearing.

Mnuchin responded, “First let me comment, I do believe there’s an economic—”

“Secretary Mnuchin, reclaiming my time,” Porter interrupted.

“You’re putting words in my mouth that are not correct,” the Treasury secretary said.

Porter then repeated her question, to which Mnuchin replied, “Of course it’s not 2026.”

“How ridiculous to ask me that question to waste our time,” he added.

“Well Secretary Mnuchin, I think it’s ridiculous that you’re play-acting to be a lawyer when you have no legal degree,” Porter added.

Mnuchin then explained that he has several lawyers advising him at the Department of Treasury.

“I’m more than happy to follow up with Chair [Maxine] Waters [D-Calif.] and explain all the legal provisions,” he added.

“Secretary Mnuchin, are you in fact a lawyer?” Porter continued.

“I do not have a legal degree, I have lawyers that report to me,” Mnuchin replied.

Porter then asked Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, who appeared before the committee Wednesday along with Mnuchin, if he was a lawyer.

Powell, who previously practiced law and holds a legal degree from Georgetown University, confirmed he was a lawyer.

“Okay, so Secretary Mnuchin, you are trying to tell Chairman Powell to send over any remaining funds right now and you’re claiming falsely, in my opinion, that that is what the law says,” Porter argued.

Mnuchin then asked if Porter was a lawyer. Porter holds a degree from Harvard Law School and serves as a law professor at the University of California Irvine.

Out. Fucking. Standing.

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Out. Fucking. Standing.

I feel like going head to head with Katie Porter has largely been a losing proposition thus far.