Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Xyonai]

https://twitter.com/StarTribune/stat...384519169?s=19

Love when my state Republicans ask to go to the front of the line. Oh btw, of course they are COVID-19 deniers and don't wear masks.

Fuck these craven shitheads.

[Breccia]

Love when my state Republicans ask to go to the front of the line

I don't have a problem with important public servants being at the front of the line.

I do have a problem with it, when they spent the year backing a candidate who said the China Virus Hoax would go away in Easter and masks were unConstitutional Soviet mind contorl. Sorry, but when you oppose things like lockdowns and insist that churches and businesses that stay open can't be sued for injuring or killing their clients, you shouldn't be first in line. That's hypocrisy. Expected, but still hypocrisy.

[Benggaul]

235,272 new cases; about 31k more than two weeks ago. Another new national record.

Top 20:

California: 24,138 new cases (new record); 202 deaths (new record)
Texas: 14,059 new cases; 248 deaths
Pennsylvania: 12,089 new cases (new record); 189 deaths
New York: 10,850 new cases; 57 deaths
Illinois: 10,526 new cases; 157 deaths
Fuck Florida.
Ohio: 10,114 new cases; 129 deaths
Michigan: 9,425 new cases; 83 deaths
Indiana: 7,899 new cases; 89 deaths
Georgia: 6,376 new cases (new record); 77 deaths
Kansas: 5,954 new cases; 107 deaths
Arizona: 5,680 new cases; 64 deaths
New Jersey: 5,535 new cases (new record); 45 deaths
Massachusetts: 5,491 new cases; 36 deaths
Minnesota: 5,347 new cases; 61 deaths
North Carolina: 5,303 new cases; 57 deaths
Colorado: 5,013 new cases; 18 deaths
Wisconsin: 4,847 new cases; 63 deaths
Oklahoma: 4,827 new cases (new record); 24 deaths
Missouri: 4,681 new cases; 113 deaths

Other states with new case/death records: Tennessee, Maryland, South Carolina, Arkansas, Iowa, Mississippi, Oregon and Delaware.

It's really disheartening to see California blowing up like it is right now considering how great they were handling things for the bulk of the year. Even during the Summer outbreak they did relatively well given their huge population. Texas, I believe, is underreporting more than normal for a Friday. I expect them to be back up to nearly 20k or above by next week.

Most of the Midwest still appears to be recovering in general (though I still expect that to change in the coming week or two) but the rest of the US is increasing in cases at an alarming rate. I wouldn't be surprised if we hit 250k or beyond at some point next week. Tomorrow the numbers should be down as we begin the weekend lull.

2,718 is a little over 700 more than two weeks ago and brings the total to 285,550. 8 states had triple-digit death totals. 42 had at least double-digits. This number should also be coming down over the next few days thanks to the lull, but I think there's a good chance we'll be passing 3k next week. Possibly more than once. The 7-day average is now over 2k, so we're currently losing 14-15k people per week. And it will get worse.

Related news:

The coronavirus is quickly becoming one of the leading causes of death in the United States, experts say.--"It's just a flu."

More than 1,000 migrant children in US government custody have tested positive for Covid-19--Because I guess the Trump administration wasn't satisfied with the other indignities heaped on them.

Republicans are hit the hardest as coronavirus spreads among elected leaders



Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

2,718 is a little over 700 more than two weeks ago and brings the total to 285,550.\

Weren't we supposed to hit 300,000 at the end of the month? At this rate we'll hit it next week.

[Benggaul]

Weren't we supposed to hit 300,000 at the end of the month? At this rate we'll hit it next week.

Yes and yes. I was going to mention it but figured the post was depressing enough.

[beanman12345]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fed...new-applicants

DACA is back, y'all! DHS has to begin accepting new applications.

Just read about this, great news!!! Fuck you Trump!

[PhaelixWW]

235,272 new cases; about 31k more than two weeks ago. Another new national record.

2,718 is a little over 700 more than two weeks ago and brings the total to 285,550.

With Nebraska, these totals become +236,887 new cases and +2745 deaths.

[Breccia]

A court victory for Trump: a federal court rules that Trump can steal military pensions to pay for his Wall.

...for another month.

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Three House GOP members tested positive this week alone.

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Trump is throwing yet another hissy fit.

Specifically, his Pentagon chief of staff is intentionally blocking the Pentagon from working with Biden's transition team. Yes, the chief of staff appointed after Trump lost the election.

[Azadina]

Benggauls reports have been pretty depressing as of late statwise. Are you guys TRYING to aim for 500k dead, or will that even be enough? Christ almighty. Is any number high enough to actually do something about it, something other than yell "mah freedumbzzzzzz >>>>> masks"?

This is a general rant about the insanity going on.

[Toestub]

Benggauls reports have been pretty depressing as of late statwise. Are you guys TRYING to aim for 500k dead, or will that even be enough? Christ almighty. Is any number high enough to actually do something about it, something other than yell "mah freedumbzzzzzz >>>>> masks"?

This is a general rant about the insanity going on.

You already know the answer to that question, just remind yourself how the Americans react to mass shootings....
It’s almost we like they say we will beat this virus by getting more infections....

I swear the country is a case study to the world in how not to do anything, elections, gun violence, hell even how to have a civilised debate.

[Benggaul]

Benggauls reports have been pretty depressing as of late statwise. Are you guys TRYING to aim for 500k dead, or will that even be enough? Christ almighty. Is any number high enough to actually do something about it, something other than yell "mah freedumbzzzzzz >>>>> masks"?

This is a general rant about the insanity going on.

Sorry.

*tenchars*

[Breccia]

Are you guys TRYING to aim for 500k dead

Half of us are, apparently.

[Paranoid Android]

Pentagon blocked President-elect Joe Biden's intelligence transition team from meeting with agencies

So here is the thing going forward, when this transitions to the Biden thread. See Trump basically does this childish and honestly most disrespectful crap ever. So then I say "why not do it to them". Problem I guess is I go to their level and act like a child. Remember that stupid saying "when they go low, we go high". Well, problem with that is what people who use decorum and follow the rules, nothing will happen. While Trump can pull this crap with no consequences. So you think or imagine Biden doing this to next administration if its Republican.

OMFG we go to this crazy projection they always use. They cried "deep state" for 4 years, which was crazy but in part now cause they believe it they are basically doing the same. I hope Biden purges many departments when in office of anyone with Trump stank on them.

[D Luniz]

Pentagon blocked President-elect Joe Biden's intelligence transition team from meeting with agencies

So here is the thing going forward, when this transitions to the Biden thread. See Trump basically does this childish and honestly most disrespectful crap ever. So then I say "why not do it to them". Problem I guess is I go to their level and act like a child. Remember that stupid saying "when they go low, we go high". Well, problem with that is what people who use decorum and follow the rules, nothing will happen. While Trump can pull this crap with no consequences. So you think or imagine Biden doing this to next administration if its Republican.

OMFG we go to this crazy projection they always use. They cried "deep state" for 4 years, which was crazy but in part now cause they believe it they are basically doing the same. I hope Biden purges many departments when in office of anyone with Trump stank on them.

worse, we don't do it back, then when they get the chance, they do it again, while yelling "both sides" and/or claiming we did it first, or would have eventually, thus "justifying" them ratfucking us

[Benggaul]

208,790 new cases; about 33k more than two weeks ago.

Top 20:

California: 25,320 new cases (new record); 88 deaths
Pennsylvania: 11,374 new cases; 134 deaths
Texas: 11,263 new cases; 205 deaths
Ohio: 10,469 new cases; 66 deaths
Fuck Florida.
New York: 10,163 new cases; 54 deaths
Illinois: 9,887 new cases; 235 deaths
Indiana: 7,690 new cases; 85 deaths
Arizona: 6,799 new cases (new record); 40 deaths
Michigan: 6,308 new cases; 203 deaths
Minnesota: 6,308 new cases; 75 deaths
North Carolina: 6,018 new cases (new record); 49 deaths
Massachusetts: 5,619 new cases; 43 deaths
Colorado: 5,125 new cases; 19 deaths
Georgia: 5,017 new cases; 68 deaths
Tennessee: 4,914 new cases; 29 deaths
Wisconsin: 4,831 new cases; 77 deaths
Missouri: 4,744 new cases; 70 deaths
New Jersey: 4,663 new cases; 44 deaths
Oklahoma: 4,370 new cases; 14 deaths

Other states with new case/death records: Virginia, South Carolina, Nevada, West Virginia, Alaska and D.C. (yes it's counted separately).

You know shit's bad when we're passing 200k on a Saturday. According to Worldometers we'll be passing 15 million cases tomorrow (just barely missed it today) and we're working at a rate of around a million new cases every 6 days or so. We're obviously not peaking yet and numbers are likely to keep getting worse as the Thanksgiving surge continues hitting. They're not getting counted accurately in most states thanks to the weekend, but California's numbers are a pretty good indicator (they don't ramp down reporting on the weekends very much) and we'll probably see huge corrections from the weekend from a few states next week.

2,215 deaths is a little under 750 more than two weeks ago and brings the total to 287,825. I'm still convinced we'll be hitting 3k at least a couple times next week. Since we're not yet at the peak with new cases per day, we're not yet even a couple weeks away from the peak of deaths. Trump's inability to do even the minimal amount to curb this pandemic means a lot of people aren't going to make it through the holidays.

Related news:

Fauci's Timeline for When He Thinks America Will Beat COVID--It's...uh...not so encouraging, really. "The country's daily case count is estimated to peak on January 20" is a pretty damned strange coincidence.

7 nursing home Covid-19 deaths reported after staff attended wedding--This was in violation of the restrictions in place and they ought to be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter, in my opinion. It's fucking inexcusable at this point.

As hospitals start to max out, medical workers beg officials for new Covid-19 mandates--An excerpt:

Dr. Cleavon Gilman served in the Iraq War, but he said that doesn't compare to the battle he's fighting as an emergency room physician in Arizona.

"This pandemic is a lot worse than being in Iraq just because when you're in a war zone, you can leave that war zone. You can fly out of Iraq; you're OK here in the United States," the Yuma doctor said.

"With this pandemic, you cannot fly anywhere ... the war is being waged everywhere."

Now Gilman and other health care workers are pleading for more public safety rules -- such as mask mandates or stay-at-home orders -- to prevent hospitals from bursting past capacity.

"You can't overwhelm a hospital and expect that care is not going to be compromised as a result," Gilman said.

Across the US, the numbers of daily Covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths just reached all-time highs.

And the crisis is only going to get worse.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

2,215 deaths

I remember when 1,000 deaths was considered horrifying. It still is, but the fact that I'm relieved it's under 3,000 is just so Trumpian.

[Benggaul]

I remember when 1,000 deaths was considered horrifying. It still is, but the fact that I'm relieved it's under 3,000 is just so Trumpian.

If it reaches 3k on a Saturday you'll likely still be in shock from the totals it would have reached the days before. Over 2k is already much more than we had mere weeks ago.

EDIT: Actually, we haven't had more than 2k on a Saturday since early April. So there's that.

[Breccia]

If it reaches 3k on a Saturday you'll likely still be in shock from the totals it would have reached the days before.

Yeah, good point.

My scientist-ridden family has already made "drastic" changes. It's not going to be even what we were willing to accept a month ago.

[DingDongKing]

What’s scary now for the US is that per capita, you guys are the worst off in every category. There’s no more silver lining, and the only idiots not talking about COVID and the need to get it under control all work for the Government and/or support the current ruling party. It’s sick.

[Breccia]

There’s no more silver lining

Not only are we a global embarrassment in general, some of our states are worse than those EUropean countries hit early and hard.

The US is 11th worst deaths per capita. That's worse than Germany and France.

Illinois is the 10th worst state. That's worse than the UK and Spain.

NY and NJ were also hit early and hard, so their deaths are massive but understandable. But even states that weren't, like our old friends in both Dakotas, have deaths that would make them #3 and #4 in the world if counted as countries.