Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

What is the purpose of the space force?

Allow me to cite our resident expert:

No Donald. We aren't. You motherfucken imbecile.

For those not in the know, the "Space Force" idea has is an umbrella term to take all the disparate space programs in the Pentagon and put them under one roof. The biggest aspect of this would be moving space based surveillance and communications out of (mostly) Air Force jurisdiction and into the new arm of the US military. A force on the level of the Air Force, Navy, or Army. It wouldn't even be under another branch's jurisdiction like the Marines.

For a lot of reasons, it's a very complicated idea. It may even be a terrible one. The House and Senate have been talking about it for years, along with a "Cyber Force".

But it would take an Act of Congress to do it, and there is zero consensus in Congress to do it any time soon. It's a thorny issue.

Here's something to consider. For the most part, Military spending budgeting is divided 30%/30%/30% (a bit more goes to the Navy due to ship building costs). You rip out Air Force Space spending, their share sharply decreases. Does that mean they get the difference in funding anyway in the budget to make up the difference and keep the peace between the services? Does that mean the Space Force budget grows to be co-equal with the Army and Navy? Is there even that many applications in space?

Don't get me wrong. There will probably be a need for a "Space Force", or something like it, sixty years from now. And it'll be very different from what we imagine today. And it'll be probably done in sync with a wholesale re-invention of the Armed Forces as we know it.

But standing up a space force today is like creating an air force when all we have is hot air ballons.

[Hinastorm]

It's called an "election". We just had one. People trying to screw you over won enough votes.

Sorry.

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What you just said is completely irrelevant to what I said, especially since no one who won or lost the election that is relevant to stimulus from congress has been sworn in yet.

Maybe consider a little before hitting that post button next time. I look forward to you either completely ignoring this reply or going off on some tangent to distract. Don't let me down.

[Kathranis]

What is the purpose of the space force? What are we fighting in space? I never understood. Don’t we have the Air Force etc for stuff in the sky? I’m so confused

It's mostly to "protect" "our" satellite infrastructure and other operations and assets in space and low earth orbit. Most of our nation's communication (and surveillance) systems rely on satellites.

There is certainly logic to it, but I think people would argue that it's just a way to further grow the military industrial complex. And I suppose it could jump start a new cold war of interference and sabotage in space, which is something that I'm sure already happens, but having an entire military branch dedicated to it sort of makes it easier to justify operations.

[Twdft]

I've seen some kind of documentary about it on Netflix, entertaining enough for a lazy afternoon.

[Breccia]

What you just said is completely irrelevant to what I said, especially since no one who won or lost the election that is relevant to stimulus from congress has been sworn in yet.

Um...you said you wanted people who failed us in the pandemic held accountable. Now you're talking about people who haven't been sworn in yet. So, you're either talking about people who were re-elected -- in which case, what I said is quite relevant -- or you're talking about people who haven't been sworn in for their first time yet -- who did not screw the nation over, by virtue of not being elected yet.

There's a disconnect I'm not getting. What part am I missing?

[YUPPIE]

Do you people ever hear gossip about Trump in your neighborhood? There was a woman last night I could hear chatting it up on the phone and she namedropped Trump and called him a "madman." It just shows me the media sensation of shitting on Trump is spilling over to your ordinary real world life now.

[Breccia]

I, too, like to deny reality as often as possible.

At this point, he can either present evidence of fraud in court, or fuck right off.

Does literally any poster on these forums believe Trump's claim?

[tumppu]

Do you people ever hear gossip about Trump in your neighborhood? There was a woman last night I could hear chatting it up on the phone and she namedropped Trump and called him a "madman." It just shows me the media sensation of shitting on Trump is spilling over to your ordinary real world life now.

A person calling trump a madman is far more likely an occurrence, than someone calling him a "great statesman". Especially outside of the us.

[Felya]

Do you people ever hear gossip about Trump in your neighborhood? There was a woman last night I could hear chatting it up on the phone and she namedropped Trump and called him a "madman." It just shows me the media sensation of shitting on Trump is spilling over to your ordinary real world life now.

300000 people dead, as Trump is nowhere to be seen... Spilling over into ordinary life? Where have you been the last year?

[YUPPIE]

300000 people dead, as Trump is nowhere to be seen... Spilling over into ordinary life? Where have you been the last year?

A few pages ago I saw an approval rating post from a moderator and Trump was at 22%. Even for the 40% estimate of disapproval that's pretty high relative to other options like "whatever" and "average"

[tumppu]

A few pages ago I saw an approval rating post from a moderator and Trump was at 22%. Even for the 40% estimate of disapproval that's pretty high relative to other options like "whatever" and "average"

Considering you post stuff like "what you heard as gossip" it´s amusing how much you try to disregard as it.

As far as polls go, it´s irrelevant what his numbers are. He´s going out in about 31 days and good riddance at that. If he thinks he still has the "support of the masses", he´s welcome to try again in 2024, if he´s not in jail, that is.

[Felya]

A few pages ago I saw an approval rating post from a moderator and Trump was at 22%. Even for the 40% estimate of disapproval that's pretty high relative to other options like "whatever" and "average"

What does this mean?

[Machismo]

A few pages ago I saw an approval rating post from a moderator and Trump was at 22%. Even for the 40% estimate of disapproval that's pretty high relative to other options like "whatever" and "average"

So, you're upset that more people don't support racists and fascists?

Sorry, not everyone wants to be you.

[Gorsameth]

A few pages ago I saw an approval rating post from a moderator and Trump was at 22%. Even for the 40% estimate of disapproval that's pretty high relative to other options like "whatever" and "average"

what? Trumps approval has hovered around 30% his entire term.
Because 30% of the country are diehard Republicans who will always support a Republican.
he literally cannot drop lower.

[YUPPIE]

What does this mean?

thought the support for trump was almost half of what dislikes him

[Demolitia]

thought the support for trump was almost half of what dislikes him

Half of the people who voted doesn't mean half of the people.

[Orange Joe]

Do you people ever hear gossip about Trump in your neighborhood? There was a woman last night I could hear chatting it up on the phone and she namedropped Trump and called him a "madman." It just shows me the media sensation of shitting on Trump is spilling over to your ordinary real world life now.

occam's razor.

The whole world is against Trump for? No reason?

Or

Trump really is a piece of shit.

[Skulltaker]

Do you people ever hear gossip about Trump in your neighborhood? There was a woman last night I could hear chatting it up on the phone and she namedropped Trump and called him a "madman." It just shows me the media sensation of shitting on Trump is spilling over to your ordinary real world life now.

There is no gossip about Trump that's as bad as reality. He's a retard, a madman, clinically insane, a psychopath, a crook, a fraud, a plague on humanity. It's not the media piling on. The media is being kind to him.

[postman1782]

I, too, like to deny reality as often as possible.



And people think this guy will be remembered as a great man and/or President.

Some people think he is the best president in our history, even though he raised their taxes, was racist to some of their family members, may have killed family members with his response to Covid, but he is still the best, even though by every metric, he is the worst.

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Do you people ever hear gossip about Trump in your neighborhood? There was a woman last night I could hear chatting it up on the phone and she namedropped Trump and called him a "madman." It just shows me the media sensation of shitting on Trump is spilling over to your ordinary real world life now.

Nope, it isn't sensation when that centaur-assed moron is trying to literally steal the election by declaring martial law. And I hope he fucking tries so that when he fails, not if, he gets tried for treason and sentenced to death, along with the rest of the morons that tried to help him like Michael Flynn.

[Breccia]

Once again, it's ti--

The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality. I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control. Russia, Russia, Russia is the priority chant when anything happens because Lamestream is, for mostly financial reasons, petrified of... discussing the possibility that it may be China (it may!)

"Wait, this is about the DHS etc. hack we just heard about?"

Yes.

"Didn't Pompeo say it was Russia literally yesterday?"

Yes.

"So, despite evidence from his own admit that this was Russia, Trump is accusing the press of making it up...followed by accusing another country entirely."

Yes.