Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Adam Jensen]

Good lord. Geraldo Rivera brought out Brian Williams' savage side:

https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/...52552550240258

[UnifiedDivide]

Your president gives no fucks about you.

Trump appears to be skipping a side-event at the G20 virtual summit focused on pandemic preparedness. The President has just arrived at his golf course in Virginia.

Nearly 2000 people dying per day? Who gives a fuck, Trump needs to do more golfing, the activity he said he'd never have time for. He might be "fighting" to keep his position, but he's 100% checked out at this point.

[passingthrew]

Your president no fucks about you.

Trump appears to be skipping a side-event at the G20 virtual summit focused on pandemic preparedness. The President has just arrived at his golf course in Virginia.

Nearly 2000 people dying per day? Who gives a fuck, Trump needs to do more golfing, the activity he said he'd never have time for. He might be "fighting" to keep his position, but he's 100% checked out at this point.

Was just going to post that. He's totally owning the libs or something though!

[UnifiedDivide]

Was just going to post that. He's totally owning the libs or something though!

I saw a reply that genuinely said it is his Saturday and he totally deserves some rest and a game of golf before he leaves the job lol

[TigTone]

I saw a reply that genuinely said it is his Saturday and he totally deserves some rest and a game of golf before he leaves the job lol

The lengths people go to justify the activities of people they like.

Our species can be sooo dumb and emotionally illogical. Emotions are blessing and a curse.

[Paranoid Android]

Your president gives no fucks about you.

Trump appears to be skipping a side-event at the G20 virtual summit focused on pandemic preparedness. The President has just arrived at his golf course in Virginia.

Nearly 2000 people dying per day? Who gives a fuck, Trump needs to do more golfing, the activity he said he'd never have time for. He might be "fighting" to keep his position, but he's 100% checked out at this point.

Yes. He is pig feces. I ask the stupid question all the time. Why vote or support this pig feces.

He has basically bailed on the American public since the election. I saw him cry yesterday he doesn't get credit, yet shows he wants the glory and does not want to put in the work of a G20 meeting.

Then again he is a little bitch and probably mad at G20 nations.

[beanman12345]

The lengths people go to justify the activities of people they like.

Our species can be sooo dumb and emotionally illogical. Emotions are blessing and a curse.

This reminded me of the most fucked up article I've read regarding this pendemic from a few days ago. it's fucking mindblowing how true your words are.

'It's not real': In South Dakota, which has shunned masks and other COVID rules, some people die in denial, nurse says

[TigTone]

This reminded me of the most fucked up article I've read regarding this pendemic from a few days ago. it's fucking mindblowing how true your words are.

'It's not real': In South Dakota, which has shunned masks and other COVID rules, some people die in denial, nurse says

Geez that extra stress for those doctors and nurses. Cognitive dissonance is insane.

[Gerron]

How many of those would be willing to leave their living room couch and stop screaming at the TV to take any real action?

Hopefully a very small percentage and hopefully they're as dumb as the other idiots before them.

[Captain N]

Geez that extra stress for those doctors and nurses. Cognitive dissonance is insane.

Yeah its bad. Every day I get a new story from my wife about nurses and doctors being everything from yelled at to having things thrown at them by folks in moving vehicles as they walk to their own cars. It's scary that this is the world we live in.

[Antiganon]

Trump plans to end birthright citizenship via Executive Order in January.

"Can he do that?"

He plans to do it, whether he can or not. If the court overturns it after he leaves, he will just call them activisits on his TV show.

He can't, birthright citizenship is enshrined in the Constitution and would require an amendment, which will never pass.

And what would he replace it with anyway? We talking Starship Troopers here where military service is required if you want the right to vote?

[PhaelixWW]

He can't, birthright citizenship is enshrined in the Constitution and would require an amendment, which will never pass.

And what would he replace it with anyway? We talking Starship Troopers here where military service is required if you want the right to vote?

The way they "explain" it, birthright citizenship only exists if the parents are basically citizens. I almost hope he does it just so that his conservative SCOTUS can toss his EO in the dungheap, because even they don't buy into that shit.

[Antiganon]

Most likely try to restrict it to requiring a US parent. I’m sure he’s targeting babies born on our soil to foreign nationals.

The way they "explain" it, birthright citizenship only exists if the parents are basically citizens. I almost hope he does it just so that his conservative SCOTUS can toss his EO in the dungheap, because even they don't buy into that shit.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside

He can't do it.

Were you born here? Are you subject to US laws (this excludes only the children of foreign ambassadors to the US and possibly native Americans born in reservations)? Then you are a citizen.

Short of ratifying a new amendment to strike that portion from the 14th, which will NEVER happen, he legally has no authority whatsoever to do this.

[Noxx79]

The way they "explain" it, birthright citizenship only exists if the parents are basically citizens. I almost hope he does it just so that his conservative SCOTUS can toss his EO in the dungheap, because even they don't buy into that shit.

Won’t even get that far. In the time it takes for there to get a court case up there, Biden will have overturned it.

[PhaelixWW]

He can't do it.

Were you born here? Are you subject to US laws (this excludes only the children of foreign ambassadors to the US and possibly native Americans born in reservations)? Then you are a citizen.

Short of ratifying a new amendment to strike that portion from the 14th, which will NEVER happen, he legally has no authority whatsoever to do this.

Like so many things, just because he has no legal authority to do it doesn't mean that he can't do it. It will just trigger an immediate SCOTUS review and dismissal, and said ruling will be on the books forever.

[Kaleredar]

Like so many things, just because he has no legal authority to do it doesn't mean that he can't do it. It will just trigger an immediate SCOTUS review and dismissal, and said ruling will be on the books forever.

While I'm certain that Trump's potential executive order on the matter will have no bearing, Are we so sure that a primarily conservative Supreme court wont rule that these stipulations that clearly define citizenship will now rather arbitrarily not apply to children born to foreigners in the US just to extract some conservative victory in the waning Trump months? This "anchor baby" nonsense has been a conservative talking point for longer than Trump.

I'm sure the GOP is desperate for something to distract from the Trump shitshow. Such a ruling by the Supreme Court would both enrage liberals and get them to focus on that, while providing a "victory" for their conservative followers to cheer on to distract them from their embarrassment of the outgoing president.

[Winter Blossom]

He can't do it.

Were you born here? Are you subject to US laws (this excludes only the children of foreign ambassadors to the US and possibly native Americans born in reservations)? Then you are a citizen.

Short of ratifying a new amendment to strike that portion from the 14th, which will NEVER happen, he legally has no authority whatsoever to do this.

I mean, he did do this shit...

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...tizenship.html

[Doctor Amadeus]

Hopefully a very small percentage and hopefully they're as dumb as the other idiots before them.

As someone who shoots regularly owns several fire arms and has done so for 30+ Years I assure you that is is a very very very small percentage willing to back up their bullshit talk.

[Benggaul]

172,839 new cases; around 12.5k more than last Saturday. It remains encouraging that the delta is overall lower this week, but I won't be breaking out the figurative champagne just yet.

Top 20:

California: 13,278 new cases; 33 deaths
Illinois: 11,891 new cases; 157 deaths
Texas: 10,888 new cases; 133 deaths
Fuck Florida.
Ohio: 7,863 new cases; 29 deaths
Michigan: 7,840 new cases; 101 deaths
Indiana: 6,872 new cases; 40 deaths
Minnesota: 6,252 new cases; 51 deaths
Wisconsin: 6,224 new cases; 51 deaths
Georgia: 6,209 new cases (new record); 37 deaths
Colorado: 6,113 new cases; 42 deaths
Pennsylvania: 5,874 new cases; 113 deaths
New York: 5,566 new cases; 27 deaths
Missouri: 4,470 new cases; 43 deaths
Tennessee: 4,355 new cases; 9 deaths
New Jersey: 3,788 new cases; 32 deaths
Kentucky: 3,702 new cases; 21 deaths
Iowa: 3,700 new cases; 25 deaths
Oklahoma: 3,663 new cases; 21 deaths
Arizona: 3,638 new cases; 30 deaths

Other states with new case/death records: Massachusetts, Mississippi and Oregon.

Something something Nebraska.

As previously mentioned, we're seeing a slower change in increases week to week--but it's still increasing. I think part of that may be due to a few of the higher case count states (Texas, Illinois, Wisconsin) more or less leveling out this week. We're still going to be seeing new records from several states next week, but hopefully not as frequently and not as huge given the lower population of the states. This also presupposes things don't kick off again in New York, Seattle or Flo-...no, fuck Florida.

Given that Dr. Fauci and most other experts are still saying things are going tits up I'm not going to play up any false optimism here, but maybe we're not barreling towards a fiery cataclysm quite as quickly as we were last week. Let's see what the new week brings.

1,460 deaths is about 200 more than last Saturday, bringing the total to 261,790. So, you know, it's not all good news. Once again there were 4 states with triple-digit death totals. Given that we all know deaths lag behind cases the upcoming two weeks aren't likely to be sunshine and lollipops. The next two days will bring us back under 1k most likely, so there's that.

Related news:

Less pomp and circumstance? Biden inauguration likely to be scaled-down affair in response to COVID--This is absolutely the best and most responsible thing to do--so expect it to be ridiculed by the resident fucktard Trump supporters.

Governor Andrew Cuomo Will Receive an Emmy For His Daily COVID-19 Briefings--Personally I find this a bit gross, but hey, it's going to fucking infuriate Trump so that'll be good for a laugh.

G-20 leaders stress importance of united response to coronavirus pandemic--Hey, guess who decided to go golfing instead? Yeah, fuck that guy.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

1,460 deaths

This is out seven-day average, just so everyone's clear. There's no math lesson coming -- just the weight of 10,000 people dying in a week.