Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

Nah, I would say they have to actually make it better and follow completely through, not just say.

Yeah, that's valid. But mostly that post was an elaboration on one of my posts yesterday. Forgiveness is given, redemption is earned. A Republican Senator can say, on or off the record, that things went badly. We already knew that. They can feel badly about how things went. We already knew that, too. But, like you said, until they

1) Flat-out admit, in public ideally, that what they did was wrong, and
2) At least begin a path that would address the situation, ideally preventing it from happening again (looking at you 2024)

then they should be continuously mocked and scorned. Honestly, resigning in protest to make a statement isn't a bad start from my perspective. It's not like they'll be trusted by a non-Trumper. Well okay, Chao probably.

[Odinfrost]

Twitter needs to ban him.

Starts an insurrection and immediately calls them yet again Patriots after he makes a fake Apology.

What I love the most with Trump and talking about the election, is that he seemingly forgets that people could also vote for his opponent.

[Machismo]

Oh, than can express it all they want. Makes it more fun to mock them.

But I agree with the spirit of your post. Until they say "we were wrong, and we're going to make it better" what they have isn't an apology, it's just consequences.

I don't expect a whole lot of GOP politicians and Trumpsters to admit they were wrong, and the Democrats and media were right all along. I definitely don't expect them to seek to actually improve their behavior.

I dare them to prove me wrong.

This is honestly one time where I actually wish I was wrong, because the GOP is in a sorry state. When I left the GOP in 2003, it was because I realized they were not a party that favored limited government, and had no real desire to support liberty. I worked on Bush's campaign in 2000, and Dole's in 1996, and I was saddened to leave the party behind. I watched the GOP turn into a shit show in 2008, with the push of Sarah Palin, and then the tenure of Reince Fucking Priebus. I watched as they tore down decent people like Michael Steele, because they didn't fit the "Hannity image." All of that was terrible, but nothing compared to watching the 2016 campaign season, as the ignorant masses jumped on board the Trump Train. There were people who tried to stop it, although very few in the GOP. They were quickly steamrolled, and either joined the cause, or watched their careers torn asunder.

If I were head of the GOP, I'd go the route of the Domino's Pizza CEO, and make a public effort to admit that the GOP has been putting out a terrible product, and vow to fix it. The GOP as a brand is garbage, and they have earned every single negative review.

[Breccia]

I don't expect a whole lot of GOP politicians and Trumpsters to admit they were wrong, and the Democrats and media were right all along.

Well, let's not go overboard. They don't need to say "Democrats were right" in general. But yeah, all the times anyone else said "Trump is incompetent on purpose and possibly insane" and Republicans say "oh he'll grow into the role, he'll MAGA, just you wait!" that time of waiting has expired. That mandates not just a "we were wrong" but also "and I'm sorry I helped".

[szechuan]

What I love the most with Trump and talking about the election, is that he seemingly forgets that people could also vote for his opponent.

Some of his supporters are still claiming he didn't incite a Riot even though he absolutely incited riots with his rhetoric hours before they stormed the Capitol.

[Levelfive]

There has been some talk of that. At this point, I am not going to assume that this will happen. And having this as a possibility could very well be used as a pretty big unspoken threat to use against McConnell.

However, if republicans go full out obstructionist, I would expect democrats to go down this route.

Schumer and McConnell have some tough negotiations ahead of them. I hope that Schumer is up to the task.

Joe Manchin already gave a clear thumbs down on that idea.

[Bodakane]

It was a bad assumption but I doubt anyone had storming the Capitol Building to stage an insurrection on their bingo card.

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.

[Levelfive]

This article is titled Republican senators now regret not doing more to contain Trump

Now, most of the article is stuff we already discussed. And the article's main source is a GOP Senator who asked his name withheld. Which is the same level of protection I get here, allowing me to be a completely vindicitive asshole. Which I freely admit. But yeah, they're still scared of Trump.

However.


-- the source

That's still a self-damning admission, anonymity or not. Whether they say it in their inside or outside voices, the GOP now knows how badly they fucked up in allowing, or becoming, the Party of Trump.

Too litle, too late. I hope the thought of personally taking a role that directly attacked democracy keeps them warm at night.

Meanwhile I'm convinced the rabid fanbase is still in the "Trump did nothing wrong" category. Nothing left there to salvage. Burn it down. Salt the earth.

That article actually made me laugh out loud this morning: Regret not doing more, while requesting anonymity.

[wunksta]

It was a bad assumption but I doubt anyone had storming the Capitol Building to stage an insurrection on their bingo card.

https://www.gq.com/story/man-predict...coup-interview

I find it hard to believe that the FBI et al did not have intel on this.

[Belize]

https://www.gq.com/story/man-predict...coup-interview

I find it hard to believe that the FBI et al did not have intel on this.

There's more and more talk that they did, but were hamstrung by Trump and his appointees.

It would explain why Biden also stopped receiving National Security briefings all of the sudden, if they knew MAGAts were brewing up plans of violence and didn't want anyone to stop them.

[Machismo]

https://www.gq.com/story/man-predict...coup-interview

I find it hard to believe that the FBI et al did not have intel on this.

Everyone had intel that this was coming. Tribes in the deep Amazon Basin knew the Nazis were going to pull something like this.

We'll see it again in 11 days. You can bet your ass that the Maryland and DC national guard will be on standby, regardless o what Trump does.

[Belize]

Everyone had intel that this was coming. Tribes in the deep Amazon Basin knew the Nazis were going to pull something like this.

We'll see it again in 11 days. You can bet your ass that the Maryland and DC national guard will be on standby, regardless o what Trump does.

IIRC D.C. Mayor has extended the state of emergency to Jan 21st, so I wouldn't be surprised if large portions of the NG simply stayed there between now and then.

[Machismo]

IIRC D.C. Mayor has extended the state of emergency to Jan 21st, so I wouldn't be surprised if large portions of the NG simply stayed there between now and then.

Meh, they will have an increased presence, but things are calm in DC right now. They will be until the 19th, most likely. Then, it's going to be another Nazi-perpetrated shitshow.

Expect more violence, expect a LOT more arrests on the 19th, and even the 20th.

[Breccia]

Once again it's time for Guess the Speaker!

I attended the rally yesterday as a supporter of the president and to be in our nation’s capital at the close of his presidency. I left before the violence began and was shocked and saddened to see it unfold on TV. I condemn the actions of those who unlawfully entered and damaged our hallowed institutions and threatened our public servants. Violence and destruction do not represent our country’s values, or the values of Rouses.

Though I am no longer involved in the day-to-day operations of Rouses, that’s my family’s name on the building and my actions reflect on my family, Rouses and this community I love so dearly. I’m horrified by the violence and destruction we saw yesterday and the pain it has caused so many. Our country desperately needs to come together to heal, and I will do everything I can to be a part of that process.

"Um...kind of gave it away with that second paragraph."

Indeed, it was Donald Trump Sr. who...sorry, Donald Rouse Sr, responding to calls of boycotts because he attended the rally with "millions" of "patriots" who then broke into the House/Senate and murdered a policeman.

[Machismo]

Once again it's time for Guess the Speaker!



"Um...kind of gave it away with that second paragraph."

Indeed, it was Donald Trump Sr. who...sorry, Donald Rouse Sr, responding to calls of boycotts because he attended the rally with "millions" of "patriots" who then broke into the House/Senate and murdered a policeman.

I hope his business goes under. Add it to the very long list of Trump-supporting businesses... boycott them all.

[Acidbaron]

The only reason he backed down was that someone explained to him, actions might get taken making it so he can never run again. Poor racists who will be there next champion if that happens!

[Breccia]

I hope his business goes under.

Alternative: I hope he's asked to leave so they can change the name. You know, like Trump's buildings?

[Ripster42]

Dominion Voting Systems is suing pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, asking for $1.3 billion in damages

life comes at you fast.

Imagine seeing that suit as a shitty lawyer. Like, bad at her job, suits full of filing errors and spelling errors amongst shitty legal reasoning bad. She has to hire a real lawyer now doesn't she? There's no way she's stupid enough to represent herself right?

[jonnysensible]

Imagine seeing that suit as a shitty lawyer. Like, bad at her job, suits full of filing errors and spelling errors amongst shitty legal reasoning bad. She has to hire a real lawyer now doesn't she? There's no way she's stupid enough to represent herself right?

be amazing if she hires lin wood and rudy gulliani

[Machismo]

Alternative: I hope he's asked to leave so they can change the name. You know, like Trump's buildings?

May the same happen to Goya, Oracle, UFC, WWE, Nathan's Hot Dogs, and all the others.