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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Allowing the clinical trials to proceed more quickly does indeed accelerate the process.
    Promising to buy their vaccine does not speed up trials... wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftowner View Post
    If Pence and Trump want any credit, they need to make sure that places that aren’t currently equipped to store the vaccine and then be able to administer the vaccine, are equipped to do it. If you read up on the vaccine, it has to be stored at -80 Celsius or -112 freedom units. I’m like 99% sure that most Walmart’s and CVS’s are not equipped for storing anything near -80C, and they do not like spending money on that kind of stuff.
    Logistics they should be working on, but Trump hasn’t even taken a national security meeting in several months. Pence’s covid team, has also not met in months. Taking credit, might be the first action of Pence team since summer.

    Edit: Just to point out what is happening... The people who made the vaccine are saying Trump admin had nothing to do with it... with people claiming they are lying, because politicians said so. Vaccine makers are liars, to give Trump credit... great confidence builder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Allowing the clinical trials to proceed more quickly does indeed accelerate the process.
    The CDC only affects the approval of the final product.

    Not clinical trials. You're currently 0/3, quit while you're ahe- well just quit.

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    So Lindsey Graham called McCabe to testify about the Russian investigation...again...

    We didn't open a case because we liked one candidate or didn't like the other one. We didn't open a case because we intended to stage a coup or overthrow the government. We didn't open a case because we thought it might be interesting or because we wanted to drag the FBI into a heated political contest. We opened a case to find out how the Russians might be undermining our elections. We opened a case because it was our obligation — our duty — to do so. We did our job
    Graham sure seems interested in changing the narrative. US Intel 100% agreed that Russia attacked the election, and if we're talking about election interference in 2016 again, isn't after the 2020 electio the worst time to discuss it?

    Also, how about that COVID relief bill? Anything in the GOP Senate on that? Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Flat Earthers and Creationists are now trying to take credit for the vaccine...
    What happened? Did they pray it into existence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Allowing the clinical trials to proceed more quickly does indeed accelerate the process.
    Regulatory approval is for the final product only, and has absolutely nothing to with any part of the development process, including clinical trials.

    Knowing that the approval process would be fast tracked and that the vaccine is guaranteed to sell obviously had an impact on the decision of the company to move forward ASAP with all of those things. But that is a far cry from being able to take credit for any of the work that's being done.

    But, that's a similar situation to having guaranteed employment after university provided you do it in X time and have Y grades. The employer doesn't get to take credit for the students university work just because they guaranteed that student employment if they meet the requirements. The student did that by themselves, they just had an incentive to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    Regulatory approval is for the final product only, and has absolutely nothing to with any part of the development process, including clinical trials.

    Knowing that the approval process would be fast tracked and that the vaccine is guaranteed to sell obviously had an impact on the decision of the company to move forward ASAP with all of those things. But that is a far cry from being able to take credit for any of the work that's being done.

    But, that's a similar situation to having guaranteed employment after university provided you do it in X time and have Y grades. The employer doesn't get to take credit for the students university work just because they guaranteed that student employment if they meet the requirements. The student did that by themselves, they just had an incentive to do it.
    I tried to preorder a PS5, do I get to take any credit in creating a PS5, for trying to preorder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Allowing the clinical trials to proceed more quickly does indeed accelerate the process.
    Three strikes.

    You're out.
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    User name DocSavageFan is available on Parler. Please go spout your nonsense into the deplorable echo chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Probably not a real thing. But now Trump fans are saying Trump should become a governor, and then they all move to that state...

    Maximun Copium

    I wondering, which state do you hate the most and wish for them to takeover?

    Me, I'm ready to completely write off Kentucky.
    No way you squeeze 70m people into Kentucky. Give 'em Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas. We can combine them all into one state.

    Bonus, he can even put his face on Mt. Rushmore like he wanted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadriker View Post
    That's basically a pre-order. I pre-ordered shadowlands. So I can claim responsibility for its success. that's how this works right?
    Hey, I preordered Shadowlands as well, if it fails I don't want that heat...

    Or are we only responsible if its a success?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    No way you squeeze 70m people into Kentucky. Give 'em Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas. We can combine them all into one state.

    Bonus, he can even put his face on Mt. Rushmore like he wanted.
    nuuuuu the Rockies, Yellowstone, Tetons, are really cool. I wanna keep those.

    Just give em North Dakota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    nuuuuu the Rockies, Yellowstone, Tetons, are really cool. I wanna keep those.

    Just give em North Dakota.
    Considering that the whole world population can fit into Rhode Island, we can just have everyone on Puerto Rico move here and they can have that island. With all of that big wet water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Probably not a real thing. But now Trump fans are saying Trump should become a governor, and then they all move to that state...

    Maximun Copium

    I wondering, which state do you hate the most and wish for them to takeover?

    Me, I'm ready to completely write off Kentucky.
    Too close to North Carolina where I live.

    I fully support him doing that and all of them moving to a state, but given how many there seem to be, need something with a bigger landmass. there seem to be enough of them to beat the total population of California evidently. So let them have Texas. It would put them in more close proximity to each other so they will have to get used to that more which softens views many times as well as concentrating them to less be able to gerrymander other states due to them and then they only get 2 senate seats each.

    But then Wyoming would only have like 200,000 people left in it. But the fun part, when they try and cut off all the socialism within their borders, they will have to deal with the fallout themselves because too many of them relied on Socialism without even thinking about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Hey, remember how they lost it over Obama’s “you didn’t build that”......
    There's an even more recent example of Republicans completely ignoring context so they can manufacture outrage amongst stupid people.

    Joe Biden:

    we’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration — President Obama’s administration before this — we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics

    Sounds terrifying! Joe Biden openly admitted to voter fraud!

    Oh wait . . .

    Republicans are doing everything they can to make it harder for people to vote — particularly people of color — to vote. So go to IWILLVOTE.com. Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration — President Obama’s administration before this — we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. What the president is trying to do is discourage people from voting by implying that their vote won’t be counted, it can’t be counted, we’re going to challenge it and all these things. If enough people vote, it’s going to overwhelm the system. You see what’s happening now, you guys know it as well as I do, you see the long, long lines and early voting. You see the millions of people who have already cast a ballot. And so, don’t be intimidated.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-social-media/

    I really, truly, honestly wish that stupidity was physically painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Definitely Florida.
    Too small, would have gone for Alaska myself but their stance on global warming makes that too dangerous, so have to go Texas, only place big enough to handle that many people and warm enough for them to deal with the heat and have to deal with the hurricanes they are trying to cause ignoring science more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Pfizer benefitted from the streamlined regulatory process and the $1.95B deal made last July to purchase their vaccine...both of which were components of the Operation Warp Speed program.
    ...you have no idea how drug development works do you?

    Feel free to ask me as I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Allowing the clinical trials to proceed more quickly does indeed accelerate the process.
    Not how that works. Again if you are confused on how clinical trials work please ask. Happy to educate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Too small, would have gone for Alaska myself but their stance on global warming makes that too dangerous, so have to go Texas, only place big enough to handle that many people and warm enough for them to deal with the heat and have to deal with the hurricanes they are trying to cause ignoring science more.
    Isn’t Trump from Florida? And didn’t he register to vote from there?

    Edit: Looks like he changed his residency to Florida, and did vote in Palm Beach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    But now Trump fans are saying Trump should become a governor, and then they all move to that state...
    It's interesting that implicit in that is admission he lost. But let's be real for a second -- Trump's ego would never allow him to go from President to Governor. Especially not since that would put him in a subservient position to Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Isn’t Trump from Florida? And didn’t he register to vote from there?
    Yes, but for all of his supporters to move to where he is, it is too small, that is like 70 million+ of them, the landmass just isn't big enough. He would have to move to Texas and it be there. Only state that has the land mass to do it that isn't Alaska where they would be getting even more socialism and their activities messing with the global warming even more.

    Texas has the land mass, they aren't going to mess with the snow melting as much and they get to benefit from all the Hurricanes their denial of climate change is starting to increase.

    For them to remain in Florida would require massive Skyscrappers everywhere which would be fitting but would also make things much worse and potentially give them to justifiably complain about. They would complain anyways due to their policies being shit, but the last thing we want to do is to give them something they can justifiably complain about as not their fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Isn’t Trump from Florida? And didn’t he register to vote from there?

    Edit: Looks like he changed his residency to Florida, and did vote in Palm Beach.
    I'd vote for him if he runs against Desantis for governor just because ive had it with the stupidity of this state.

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