Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[For_The_Horde]

Remember when we didn't have to worry about the outgoing President trying to overthrow the government, or pardon all his (criminal) friends/self, or damage democracy in ways that might take years or decades to heal? I miss those days...



(and republicans were ALL IN on impeaching him)

[dextersmith]

Okay, technically yes, but the important thing with regards to Dexter's question is that it requires him to be convicted first, which he wasn't.

I don't think he will be this time either.

[Kaleredar]

Remember when we didn't have to worry about the outgoing President trying to overthrow the government, or pardon all his (criminal) friends/self, or damage democracy in ways that might take years or decades to heal? I miss those days...



(and republicans were ALL IN on impeaching him)

But but but remember, he cheated on his wife! We can't have a president who's disloyal to their spouse!

[Corvus]

But but but remember, he cheated on his wife! We can't have a president who's disloyal to their spouse!

Probably be hard to find a president who didn't cheat on his wife. With Clinton, wasn't it that he lied under oath about it (I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky) that saw him impeached, rather than the cheating?

[draynay]

Probably be hard to find a president who didn't cheat on his wife. With Clinton, wasn't it that he lied under oath about it (I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky) that saw him impeached, rather than the cheating?

I guess Kal needed to throw in a few more

[Breccia]

There are twenty-five federal terrorism charges stemming from Trump's murderous insurrection riot.

[zorkuus]

There are twenty-five federal terrorism charges stemming from Trump's murderous insurrection riot.

A joke. There were thousands of people. When stuff like BLM happens they arrest hundreds immediately.

[Toppy]

A joke. There were thousands of people. When stuff like BLM happens they arrest hundreds immediately.

Werent there dozens of arrests the very first night and then just a constant stream?

[Corvus]

A joke. There were thousands of people. When stuff like BLM happens they arrest hundreds immediately.

The FBI aren't buggering around. They had photos up of persons of interest bin less than 24 hours. I don't recall anything like that happening with the BLM protests.

[Flarelaine]

- Loses 200k pension for the rest of his life
- Loses his $1million/year travel allowance
- Loses lifetime full Secret Service detail
- Loses his ability to run again as President

- Loses the lifetime title of Mr. President.

How many of us think that would cut deeper than the rest?

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You know, I'm looking from Germany and wonder for the last 4 years how any other government could even do business with the USA seeing how her president lies when he opens his mouth.

Well. Your government does business with mine.

[Belize]

A joke. There were thousands of people. When stuff like BLM happens they arrest hundreds immediately.

Give them some time.
They're actively being hamstrung by Trump appointees. The ones they can't get to immediately are being put on no-fly lists in the meantime.

[Thepersona]

There are twenty-five federal terrorism charges stemming from Trump's murderous insurrection riot.

Some of those are terrorism charges made against law enforcement agents/army personnel, as far as i'm aware.

If that is the case, what are the army punishments for sedition? Because i can see someone being sat in a chair while 7 or 8 others are watching him. Armed.

[Breccia]

How many of us think that would cut deeper than the rest?

No.

The rabid fanbase will still call him President and higher terms. He won't even know the title is unofficial, even if you told him to his face.

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If that is the case, what are the army punishments for sedition?

The same as everyone else, plus very likely dishonorable discharge.

Treason, it's "here's your blindfold and cigarette"

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The outgoing Capital Police chief accused the House and Senate of hindering attempts to call the National Guard.

Their Sergeant-at-Arms, specifically. Oh, and the Pentagon, too.

This doesn't feel partisan so much as "ain't nobody wants this shit on their resume". Except Trump. Trump wants it on his resume.

[gondrin]

In other news related to Trump, Lindsey Graham can't decide whether or not to be a seditionist. Don't worry everyone, according to Lady G, Trump put out a statement and he won't do it again. Pinky swear.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=uxbndlbing

Lindsey Graham Urges Biden to Stop 2nd Trump Impeachment Push by Democratic Lawmakers

Lindsey Graham called on President-elect Joe Biden to immediately contact Democratic congressional leaders and "the Squad," requesting they cease any discussion of President Donald Trump being impeached for a second time in the aftermath of the Capitol assault.

The Republican senator from South Carolina appeared on Fox News Friday night and urged Biden to "pick up the phone" and tell House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats not to impeach Trump in the coming weeks.

Pelosi on Friday told House members "we must take action" to immediately remove Trump from office, a sentiment echoed by several top Republicans including Lisa Murkowski. The Alaska senator said the president simply "needs to get out."

But Graham, who said he "hated it to end this way," touted Trump's "helpful" speech Thursday following the deadly riot.

"President Trump gave a statement last night that was helpful, it hit the mark, he wants to move on to a peaceful transfer of power, he wants this to end," Graham told Fox host Sean Hannity Friday evening. "I've been with him most of the day, he's going to focus on his agenda, his successes for the American people for the next few days."

Several House Democrats have expressed their support for a "lightning" impeachment of the president in order to remove him from office immediately.

"I'm calling on President-elect Biden to pick up the phone to call Nancy Pelosi and the Squad to end the second impeachment," Graham continued. "Joe Biden said it's up to Congress regarding impeachment, no President-elect Biden, it's up to you. Stand down, this will destroy the country even further. You have the power to do that, the question is, do you have the courage to do it?"

Graham's remark aimed toward "the Squad" makes reference to Congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley, who are all progressive, young women of color in the House.

Graham also told Hannity "we should move on" from attempting to overturn Biden's victory over Trump, as a dozen of his GOP Senate colleagues tried a last-minute stunt to block the Electoral College vote count.

If convicted in a potential second impeachment held after Biden takes office, Trump would not be able to run again for president in 2024. Additionally, he would lose his yearly pension and lifetime Secret Service protection.

On Friday afternoon, Graham was heckled and berated by Trump supporters at Reagan National Airport who called him a "traitor" for his failure to audit and overturn the November election results. "It's going to be like this wherever you go, for the rest of your life, you piece of s***," supporters of the president warned the South Carolina senator.

Newsweek reached out to Graham's office and the Biden transition team for additional remarks Saturday afternoon.

House Intelligence Committee chair Adam Schiff, who led the impeachment of Trump last year, told MSNBC Friday "we will move swiftly" to send draft impeachment articles against the president. He also said that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell he will "bear responsibility" for any future violence incited by Trump if he refuses to convict the president.

[Thepersona]

He truly is a traitor, to all sides.

I still think that any of his fuckbois should oust him, stupid and backwards thinking as it sounds like. Then the planet would be happy that said bastard lost all of his political power, just because he didnt want to come out of the closet, while enacting policies that actively hurt lgbtq people.

[DingDongKing]

He truly is a traitor, to all sides.

Lindsey Graham, aka Grima Wormtongue.

[Grapemask]

In other news related to Trump, Lindsey Graham can't decide whether or not to be a seditionist. Don't worry everyone, according to Lady G, Trump put out a statement and he won't do it again. Pinky swear.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=uxbndlbing

Oh silly democrats, Trump only incited rebellious riots against the government in the nation's capitol, what's wrong with that? Now, if he had received a blowjob from an intern, then it would be perfectly understandable to urgently cleanse the office.

[Gelannerai]

Oh silly democrats, Trump only incited rebellious riots against the government in the nation's capitol, what's wrong with that? Now, if he had received a blowjob from an intern, then it would be perfectly understandable to urgently cleanse the office.

But a beej from every male sex worker in Columbia is totes ok.

[Katchii]

Sorry Lindsey Graham, Trump doesn't get to say sorry and be absolved of the crimes he committed. He need to be held accountable.

Don't forget, two of the results of a successful impeachment (meaning if it goes through and is accepted by the Senate) is that he can be prevented from ever holding public office again and be prevented from receiving the lifetime benefits Presidents receive after leaving office.

Even if we don't get to remove him from office, I'm 10000% on board with making sure he doesn't reap the benefits of his shit job ever again and ever being able to try and get in power like this again.

[Thekri]

Some of those are terrorism charges made against law enforcement agents/army personnel, as far as i'm aware.

If that is the case, what are the army punishments for sedition? Because i can see someone being sat in a chair while 7 or 8 others are watching him. Armed.

I am only aware of one Active Duty Army member involved in this. And that is this POS. However, it is not really clear if she actually broke any laws. For one, she doesn't seem to have entered the capital, and simply protesting on the steps is completely legal. She wasn't in uniform, and thus not clearly breaching any general army policies unless she is actually charged with civil crimes (In which case she gets hit twice).

Now, she is a completely awful person, and she is already being thrown out of the Army for tearing down police barriers in North Carolina while protesting Covid restrictions. So she REALLY doesn't get the concept of a non-partisan military. If she wasn't already kicked out for that, she would definitely get kicked out for this, because even though she might not have broken any laws, the Military will throw you out for just being embarrassing. They don't actually need any legal reason to get rid of officers, they can just determine you aren't "suited in temperament or morals" and eject you. Which they already did. She appears to be on terminal leave right now, so it is unlikely they will call her back unless she committed some crime, there is currently an investigation to determine if she did.