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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Maybe not that much, but certainly several thousand. But I decided not to artificially add to the total when the states fail to report because it tends to muddle things later when it gets corrected. I just note their absence.
    2182 for today's new case total here in NE. It's not a new high for us, but is the second highest day so far.

    The state's covid dashboard for reference

    Looks like Missouri came in at 4256 for today making the total for the US 142,012

    Also, Gov. Ricketts and his wife entered quarantine today after covid exposure this weekend. Trying hard to avoid statements concerning his refusal to allow cities or counties to implement indoor mask mandates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Maybe not that much, but certainly several thousand. But I decided not to artificially add to the total when the states fail to report because it tends to muddle things later when it gets corrected. I just note their absence.
    It probably would have been close to 5k between the 2 states, but really at this point it doesn’t matter. The fact that we broke a record on a Tuesday is a really bad sign for how things are accelerating. We’ve gone from Friday being the record setting day of the week, to potentially Tuesday through Friday all setting records. Given the delta between weeks, I think there is a real possibility for 170-180k this Friday, and we will likely be breaking into the 200k bracket next week already. I mean, even with my previous less pessimistic estimate of around a 30k increase per week we would have still reached 200k by Friday next week, but at this point, we should be smashing right through that barrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Deaths are a lagging indicator. Expect 2K within 2 weeks.
    ...I do. I have for some time. It's just a senseless loss of human life that could have been prevented.

    Trump wanted a good economy to help him get re-elected. It might have cost him the election. And, yes, an unimaginable number of civilians killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    ...I do. I have for some time. It's just a senseless loss of human life that could have been prevented.

    Trump wanted a good economy to help him get re-elected. It might have cost him the election. And, yes, an unimaginable number of civilians killed.
    A bit off topic sorry, but I been seeing this a lot now, but can't figure out what it means. Your sig says "46 and 2", now I know 46th president, but what is the 2 for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    A bit off topic sorry, but I been seeing this a lot now, but can't figure out what it means. Your sig says "46 and 2", now I know 46th president, but what is the 2 for?
    I'm assuming the 2 refers to Harris as being Biden's second in charge but the sig is a reference to a Tool song, 46 and 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waniou View Post
    I'm assuming the 2 refers to Harris as being Biden's second in charge but the sig is a reference to a Tool song, 46 and 2.
    Yes, and it happens to be my guild's name.

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    UPDATE: Pence cancels vacation. Will help with Georgia runoff instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
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    UPDATE: Pence cancels vacation. Will help with Georgia runoff instead.
    Of course he is, it’s not like he’s in charge of something that is affecting the entire country, that he’s ignoring to focus on runoff elections for one state. That would just be irresponsible to do such a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    135,574 new cases; about 41k more than last Tuesday. A new national record and the Tuesday record's been shattered.

    Top 20:

    Illinois: 12,623 new cases (new record); 82 deaths
    Texas: 12,212 new cases; 123 deaths
    California: 8,352 new cases; 65 deaths
    Wisconsin: 7,073 new cases (new record); 66 deaths (new record)
    Michigan: 6,944 new cases (new record); 84 deaths
    Ohio: 6,508 new cases (new record); 23 deaths
    Minnesota: 4,893 new cases; 23 deaths
    Indiana: 4,829 new cases; 67 deaths
    Fuck Florida.
    Pennsylvania: 4,322 new cases; 58 deaths
    Georgia: 4,319 new cases; 53 deaths
    New Jersey: 4,251 new cases; 22 deaths
    New York: 3,955 new cases; 26 deaths
    Iowa: 3,903 new cases; 23 deaths
    Colorado: 3,890 new cases (new record); 19 deaths
    Arizona: 3,434 new cases; 28 deaths
    North Carolina: 2,582 new cases; 45 deaths
    Utah: 2,517 new cases; 11 deaths
    Massachusetts: 2,154 new cases; 21 deaths
    Kentucky: 2,079 new cases; 14 deaths

    Nebraska continues to vex me by not reporting on time and Missouri's been doing the same a lot lately. So, since I can't report their numbers, I'll just link their Twitters and you can read the comments from the constituents of GOP Governors Mike Parson and Pete Ricketts. Enjoy.

    Special mention: Wyoming: 1,232 new cases (new record); 13 deaths (new record) First time for Wyoming in the 1k+ club.

    Texas and New Jersey have both hit numbers within their top 5 and both will likely be setting new records in short order. This isn't their first rodeo, but somehow I don't think even Texas is prepared for this one.

    36 states had over 1k new cases today. Honestly, if the delta keeps increasing like this 170k by the end of the week isn't out of the realm of possibility. We'll also likely see an extra bump in a few days from Election day given the 10-14 day incubation period. The US as a whole is failing this response by every measure and hundreds of thousands more are going to die or be left with lifelong complications as a result.

    1,345 deaths is over 150 more than last Tuesday and brings the total to 245,799. Texas continues topping the list but they're likely to have company in the 3-digit region soon enough.

    Related news:

    US sets new record for COVID-19 hospitalizations at more than 60,000--Another record, except this one will have more tangible consequences.

    Transition delay hampers Biden’s ramp-up of Covid-19 response--Even once Trump is out of office his slaughter through inaction will continue.

    28 Election Workers in Missouri's Second-Largest County Test Positive for COVID as State Reports Over 4,200 Cases--I think we're going to see a lot of these stories over the coming week.

    Stay safe, folks.

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    Texas is supposedly number 1 in covid infections. Tarrant county judge is blaming sport and their gatherings. Some schools are going back to virtual learning after their cases started going upwards (to the surprise of no one). Shutting down schools again would be a good idea. But the only way to control it is enforce masks and gatherings. While my life hasn't changed much being essential. However where in bit of a catch-22. Pandemic fatigue certainly has said in a lot of people are just not like if I get it I get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftowner View Post
    Of course he is, it’s not like he’s in charge of something that is affecting the entire country, that he’s ignoring to focus on runoff elections for one state. That would just be irresponsible to do such a thing.
    The entire GOP is placating trump's delusion that there is massive fraud and keeping hope alive in their base that we're on a knifes edge from trump's dream of authoritarianism, breaking policy, breaking all sorts of etiquette, just to win 2 senate seats. It's pretty disgusting, not surprising, but disgusting non the less. They give 0 shits about anyone but themselves. What's a few hundred thousand american lives, when they can get a few judges on the seat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Related news:
    Different sources get different numbers, for example Reuters said the death count was 1,450 which, Jesus.

    But they also pointed out that this was the seventh day in a row with 100,000 or more cases. As per usual, since hospitalizations and deaths are also mounting, this cannot be blamed on testing.

    Reuters claimed the number of people hospitalized was 61,000 and change -- the highest ever.

    Regardless of the source anyone uses, deaths are now higher than any point in October and any point in September. One source I found said the current seven-day average is 957 deaths, and the highest in August was 1,154. April was, of course, the fucking worst.

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    Also Axios reports but doesn't have a link for Texas having more than one million cases -- more than any other state.

    If Texas was a country, it'd be the 10th most infected country. More people have caught COVID in Texas than Italy.

    And Itally is strengthing COVID restrictions. Texas is not.

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    Split the country up. Blue states join Canada. Red states can form JesusLand.
    Blue Stater here. No fucking thank you.
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    Are these resisters actually contributing to our country and paying their taxes? Or are they freeloading?

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    CNN: 6 lawsuits Donald Trump is going to have to deal with when he leaves office
    President Donald Trump will return to just plain old Donald Trump in 71 days.

    And in case you forgot, there are at least a half dozen ongoing cases involving him -- and placing him in various levels of legal jeopardy -- still pending.

    Because there's been SO much legal turmoil around the President for his entire first term, I thought it might make sense to go over the pending litigation involving him and where it all stands at the moment.

    1) Manhattan district attorney's office looking into financial inner workings of the Trump Organization. This case, which is being overseen by Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr., grew out of questions regarding several hush money payments made in the run-up to the 2016 election by then-Trump fixer Michael Cohen to women alleging they had engaged in extramarital affairs with Trump. (Cohen told Congress, under oath, in 2019 that there was "no doubt" in his mind that Trump knew about the hush money payments.) The investigation is broader than just the hush money, however. As CNN's Kara Scannell and Erica Orden wrote last month:

    "Prosecutors have suggested in court filings that the investigation could examine whether the President and his company engaged in bank fraud, insurance fraud, criminal tax fraud and falsification of business records."

    Trump has repeatedly sought to block the DA's subpoena of eight years of his tax returns and financial records as part of the investigation.

    2) New York state attorney general examining how Trump valued his assets. In the wake of Cohen's testimony alleging that Trump, along with his family members, had repeatedly "inflated his total assets when it served his purposes, such as trying to be listed among the wealthiest people in Forbes, and deflated his assets to reduce his real estate taxes," New York AG Letitia James announced that she would investigate the claims to see if they elevate to the level of fraud. Just last month, Eric Trump was questioned under oath about whether he or the Trump organization sought to artificially inflate and deflate their assets.

    3) Attorneys general of Maryland and Washington, DC, suing over the emoluments clause. This suit was originally brought way back in 2017, alleging that Trump was violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution by profiting from foreign governments' spending in his Trump hotel in downtown Washington. (Much more on the emoluments clause here.) The case appeared dead until May, when the 4th Circuit overturned the ruling of a three-judge panel that said the plaintiffs lacked standing to bring the case. Trump has appealed the decision to the Supreme Court. (There is also a second emoluments case that is still pending -- this one brought by a group of restaurants and a hotel operator.)

    4) E. Jean Carroll's defamation lawsuit. Days before the 2020 election, a federal judge rejected an attempt by Trump, represented by Department of Justice lawyers, to effectively dismiss a case brought by Carroll alleging that Trump had raped her in the 1990s. He denied her allegation, saying, "She's not my type." The case is now proceeding through the federal court system.

    5) Summer Zervos' defamation lawsuit. Zervos, a former contestant on "The Apprentice," sued Trump back in 2017, arguing that in his denial of her allegation that he had sexually assaulted her in 2007, he had defamed her and subjected her to harassment. Trump lost a bid to dismiss the case in late 2019, but the proceedings -- including a possible subpoena for Trump to provide a deposition -- have been put on hold until he leaves office.

    6) Mary Trump's lawsuit. The niece of the President -- and the author of the scathing bestseller "Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man" -- sued Trump in September, alleging that he, his sister and his late brother had committed fraud to keep her from getting her fair share of the estate of Trump's father, Fred Sr.

    Aside from those half-dozen suits is the question of whether Trump could be charged with obstruction of justice for his attempts to impede and inhibit the investigation into the 2016 election and Russia's role in it by special counsel Robert Mueller. In a back-and-forth during congressional testimony in July 2019, Mueller, a former FBI director, suggested that he believed Trump could be charged once he left office.

    It's impossible to know whether any of these pending lawsuits will ever emerge as a genuine threat to Trump. Especially when you consider that Trump has, for decades, shown a willingness to exercise absolutely every legal avenue to protect himself, muddy the waters and slow the proceedings to a crawl.

    What is clear, however, is that Trump will have fewer airtight legal protections as a former president than he did as a sitting president. Far fewer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Different sources get different numbers, for example Reuters said the death count was 1,450 which, Jesus.
    Missouri yesterday reported a 100+ deaths from a backlog of unconfirmed cases, most happening in October, so that's probably why there are different numbers.

    I know Illinois and Texas look scary, but they both do a lot of testing so they're probably reporting nearly all the cases that they can. One state that's absolutely screwed is Iowa. Iowa's positivity rate is nearly 50% (Illinois and Texas are about 10%) which means their real numbers are probably 4-5 times as much as they report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Special mention: Wyoming: 1,232 new cases (new record); 13 deaths (new record) First time for Wyoming in the 1k+ club.
    Ugh, I know, I have some coworkers with friends on the inside and the hospitals are almost all full.

    It's embarrassing that we took forever to reach 1000 cases in total and now we've just fucked off to make it 1k/day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Different sources get different numbers, for example Reuters said the death count was 1,450 which, Jesus.

    But they also pointed out that this was the seventh day in a row with 100,000 or more cases. As per usual, since hospitalizations and deaths are also mounting, this cannot be blamed on testing.

    Reuters claimed the number of people hospitalized was 61,000 and change -- the highest ever.

    Regardless of the source anyone uses, deaths are now higher than any point in October and any point in September. One source I found said the current seven-day average is 957 deaths, and the highest in August was 1,154. April was, of course, the fucking worst.

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    Also Axios reports but doesn't have a link for Texas having more than one million cases -- more than any other state.

    If Texas was a country, it'd be the 10th most infected country. More people have caught COVID in Texas than Italy.

    And Itally is strengthing COVID restrictions. Texas is not.
    I have a sinking feeling that once Biden takes office he will find out that the numbers are actually much worse. We really don't know what machinations Trump loyalists have been doing on the topic of the virus behind the scenes. From corruption of operation wrap speed, contract granting and buying bullshit medicine like Remdesivir and Hydroxy all to prop up Trump cronies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    I have a sinking feeling that once Biden takes office he will find out that the numbers are actually much worse.
    I don't know, I thought the COVID numbers we were getting were reported directly by hospitals and states?

    We've already heard that the number of deaths this year is a lot higher than it was supposed to be, which would include "hidden" deaths ("He didn't die of COVID, he died of the symptoms COVID causes") and "fear" deaths ("I'm not going to the doctor, all the sick people are there"), and we heard that from Trump's own CDC.

    I don't think Trump could hide the information -- he clearly wants this hoax to go away in April. If he could hide it, he would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I don't know, I thought the COVID numbers we were getting were reported directly by hospitals and states?

    We've already heard that the number of deaths this year is a lot higher than it was supposed to be, which would include "hidden" deaths ("He didn't die of COVID, he died of the symptoms COVID causes") and "fear" deaths ("I'm not going to the doctor, all the sick people are there"), and we heard that from Trump's own CDC.

    I don't think Trump could hide the information -- he clearly wants this hoax to go away in April. If he could hide it, he would have.
    There was a time before the election where they took the data reporting away from the CDC and the swing states number magically got better. It has been reversed because they were too incompetent to even handle this cover up properly but the numbers are clearly under reported.

    As with everything after Trump there will need to be decisions made about whether Biden wants to cover it up in the name of peace or out Trump and his cronies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I don't know, I thought the COVID numbers we were getting were reported directly by hospitals and states?
    In most cases, this is correct. However: Fuck Florida.

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