Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[xmirrors]

Also announces plans to reroll warlock.

Smart. With the corruption legendary he could easily escape next time.

If I remember correctly, smoker's lung heals in roughly 7 years with 90% or so of the damage healed. Presumably healing continues even after that just at a slower rate.

That is my understanding, at least somewhere around that time frame. I'll...I'll stay inside, thanks.

[Forogil]

70 to 80 percent

Are you just fear-mongering or do have any source for that?

The first estimate I found was 8% had severe case of covid-lung (but it seems likely that even that is an over-estimate; since it seems possible that the study missed asymptomatic cases and they probably are less likely to develop ARDS):
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...g-term-effects

30% had lung problems for Sars and Mers https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3001

And the effect often seems to disappear after a few months "At the time the patients (who had been severely hit by Covid and in ICU) were discharged from the hospital, 88 percent had lung damage, but 12 weeks later, only 56 percent did." - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/h...-recovery.html

[Breccia]

The problem with rewriting the primary rules is that it only stops Trump from running in 2024 as a Republican. Throwing up the possibility of him running as a third party(*) and splitting the Republican vote. Conviction as a result of Impeachment takes him out of the equation entirely.

Yeah, McConnell should be thinking about a split vote, Republican/Party of Trump.

[gondrin]

Well, that just means the Trump Crumbling Wall will have to be named something else.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ce/ar-BB1cMVc6

Dems Plan Legislation To Prevent Anything From Being Named After Trump After He Leaves Office

In a true example of a penalty precisely tailored to enrage its recipient, California Democratic Congresswoman Linda T. Sánchez told reporters that she will be introducing legislation that would prohibit government property from being named after Donald Trump once he leaves office.

“I am working on a bill that would mean that nothing — not even a bench, no airport, no highway, no school — nothing – ever bear the name of this traitor,” Sánchez told People Magazine.

In a blog post, Sánchez recalled her thoughts the night before the January 6th attack on the Capitol building. ” [N]erves were on edge and all eyes were on Washington,” wrote Sánchez. While Congress convened to certified the votes of the election, things, “felt different,” she noted. “Thinking of my friend, Gabby Giffords, I called my husband Tuesday night and told him where my will could be found if the unimaginable happened.”

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In a true example of a penalty precisely tailored to enrage its recipient, California Democratic Congresswoman Linda T. Sánchez told reporters that she will be introducing legislation that would prohibit government property from being named after Donald Trump once he leaves office.

“I am working on a bill that would mean that nothing — not even a bench, no airport, no highway, no school — nothing – ever bear the name of this traitor,” Sánchez told People Magazine.

In a blog post, Sánchez recalled her thoughts the night before the January 6th attack on the Capitol building. ” [N]erves were on edge and all eyes were on Washington,” wrote Sánchez. While Congress convened to certified the votes of the election, things, “felt different,” she noted. “Thinking of my friend, Gabby Giffords, I called my husband Tuesday night and told him where my will could be found if the unimaginable happened.”

Sánchez, recalling the shocking events of January 6th, continued:

“This time was different, for sure. The President of the United States invited white supremacists, conspiracy theorist believers, militia members, and anti-government extremists to Washington, D.C.. The President incited an insurrection against not just the United States Capitol buildings, but against the very symbol of our democracy.”

It is because of Trump’s involvement and inciting insurrection, says Sánchez, that he should relinquish any and all benefits usually conferred upon former presidents.

Sánchez represents California’s 38th District. She is a California native, a lawyer, and the daughter of Mexican immigrants.

Texas Congressman Joaquin Castro, also a Democrat, has similarly announced plans to formalize a prohibition against naming things after Trump.

https://twitter.com/JoaquinCastrotx/...aves-office%2F

Castro warned that “Donald Trump should never become a future generation’s confederate symbol.”

Castro was named on January 12 as an impeachment manager for Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial.

The push to squash efforts to cement Trump’s legacy likely transcends mere sensationalism. In the past, Republican presidents have enjoyed naming rights on hundreds of projects, often thanks to advocacy groups who lobby for the honor. While former Democratic presidents have shared in name-saking to some degree, it has recently been to a lesser extent as compared with their Republican counterparts.

The suggestion that America might want to re-think its usual policy of naming everything from to libraries to submarines to lizards after past presidents in the context of Trump isn’t a new one. However, a prohibition against this kind of typical presidential tribute would have particular significance when it comes to this president. Trump, heir to his family’s real-estate development business, is unquestionably a titan in the world of self-branding; he has licensed his name for decades, often drawing criticism for displaying his name on structures that he neither owns nor built. Even before officially conceding the 2020 election, Trump was asking which things could be named after him upon his departure.

[Demolitia]

Well, that just means the Trump Crumbling Wall will have to be named something else.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ce/ar-BB1cMVc6

Does that mean there'll be a Drumpf tower?

[gondrin]

Does that mean there'll be a Drumpf tower?

Only pertains to government buildings I'm afraid. So this means there literally could not be a Trump Presidential Library.

[Demolitia]

Only pertains to government buildings I'm afraid. So this means there literally could not be a Trump Presidential Library.

I guess we'll have to wait for Deutsche Bank to call it as collateral when he can't pay the 300 millions back. I hope they have a sense of humor

[Edge-]

So this means there literally could not be a Trump Presidential Library.

Who wants to go read a bunch of printed out tweets, anyways? I mean, I don't think he's even picked out a location for it. Probably in part because he doesn't know what the fuck a library is.

[gondrin]

Who wants to go read a bunch of printed out tweets, anyways? I mean, I don't think he's even picked out a location for it. Probably in part because he doesn't know what the fuck a library is.

Well, to be fair, every President generally gets a chance at a library. Because it is filled with coloring books(with things not colored in the lines) and ragetweets doesn't make it any less of a library. It will just be a library for Trump's "Special people". Anyway, the tweets, I think, have to be saved in the National Archives anyway. Imagine that job.

[Demolitia]

Who wants to go read a bunch of printed out tweets, anyways? I mean, I don't think he's even picked out a location for it. Probably in part because he doesn't know what the fuck a library is.

Michael Cohen might publish them in paperback. "Donald's selected essays."

[gondrin]

Michael Cohen might publish them in paperback. "Donald's selected essays."

A new idea of Melania and coffee table books.

[Demolitia]

Well, to be fair, every President generally gets a chance at a library. Because it is filled with coloring books(with things not colored in the lines) and ragetweets doesn't make it any less of a library. It will just be a library for Trump's "Special people". Anyway, the tweets, I think, have to be saved in the National Archives anyway. Imagine that job.

I hope therapy is included in the congress librarian's healthcare plan

[Adam Jensen]

Well, to be fair, every President generally gets a chance at a library. Because it is filled with coloring books(with things not colored in the lines) and ragetweets doesn't make it any less of a library. It will just be a library for Trump's "Special people". Anyway, the tweets, I think, have to be saved in the National Archives anyway. Imagine that job.

It's kind of depressing that multiple all caps rage tweets are now Presidential history.

[Breccia]

Congratulations on Trump for breaking another record.

Lowest approval ever.

(for him)

Pew puts Trump's approval at 29%, just 3% higher than Nixon's before he was kicked.

Trump has also lost a record-breaking amount of Republican support. In August he had 77% which, yeah, was bad enough. Now he has 60%.

56% of Americans strongly disapprove.

56% say he should be removed from office.

52% say he has some/all of the responsibility for the murderous insurrection.

And only 29% of Americans, including only 57% of Republicans, want to see Trump as a political future.

Remember when Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his poll numbers wouldn't move?

Trump lied.

"Whoa whoa whoa you can't judge from just one poll! I thought you ilked aggregates!"

You know what, I do. So let's turn to 538--

"Oh, shit."

Trump's approval is in free fall. When he lost the election, he was just shy of 45%. Jan 1 he was about 42%. New polls have his aggregate down to 38%. Even Rasmussen has 52% disapproval.

[Demolitia]

It's kind of depressing that multiple all caps rage tweets are now Presidential history.

I'm sure someone will train an artificial stupidity bot that can tweet just like him.

[Adam Jensen]

Trump's approval is in free fall. When he lost the election, he was just shy of 45%. Jan 1 he was about 42%. New polls have his aggregate down to 38%. Even Rasmussen has 52% disapproval.

When even Rasmussen struggles to make the polls for Trump look good lol.

[draynay]

If you guys report all the Rasmussen results you're not leaving anything for ghostpanther to do.

[Edge-]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29J2O9

U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade war with China has caused a peak loss of 245,000 U.S. jobs, but a gradual scaling back of tariffs on both sides would boost growth and lead to an additional 145,000 jobs by 2025, a study commissioned by the U.S.-China Business Council (USCBC) shows.

The group, which represents major American companies doing business in China, said the study by Oxford Economics also includes an “escalation scenario” which estimates a significant decoupling of the world’s two largest economies could shrink U.S. GDP by $1.6 trillion over the next five years. This could result in 732,000 fewer U.S. jobs in 2022 and 320,000 fewer jobs by 2025, it said.

The study was released just days before President-elect Joe Biden is set to take office and begin a major analysis of U.S. trade policy, including consultations with democratic allies over punitive U.S. tariffs imposed by Trump. Biden has said he plans no immediate changes to Trump’s tariffs, but said he will work with allies to pressure China to change its trade behavior.

USCBC President Craig Allen, who has been supportive of Trump’s efforts to change China’s trade and technology transfer policies, said it was important that the group articulate the consequences of policy choices in the U.S.-China relationship.

“In the case of the tariffs, it’s very important that we understand the full economic cost of these choices,” Allen told a press briefing.

The study estimates that U.S. exports to China support 1.2 million American jobs and that Chinese multinational companies directly employ 197,000 Americans, while U.S. companies invested $105 billion in China in 2019.

“With China forecast to drive around one-third of global growth over the next decade, maintaining market access to China is increasingly essential for U.S. businesses’ global success,” the study said.

Are ya winning yet, son?

[TigTone]

If you guys report all the Rasmussen results you're not leaving anything for ghostpanther to do.

To be honest he probably was at the riots and is in hiding.

I wonder if other posters here are going to get arrested or have already been.

[draynay]

To be honest he probably was at the riots and is in hiding.

I wonder if other posters here are going to get arrested or have already been.

I have my suspicions, he's been gone since the 5th.