Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Benggaul]

Wearing anything is noticeable unless you’re numb.

Demonstrably false, but I forgot you're the guy who will die on any hill because reasons, so I'll drop it to keep this ridiculous derailment from going further.

[Paranoid Android]

44 Senators who voted that it is unconstitutional to impeach a former President are pieces of dung.

I know, I know. Technically it's not up to them, so vote is moot. We all get the picture here and again previously what Trump's lawyer tried to argue the 'slippery slope', would turn around in a nano second to get a Dem President.

[TigTone]

Weird. I feel when I am wearing anything. I guess I’m just a weirdo. Like the moron who’s boss told him not to wear the stupid hat and that his silly religious beliefs aren’t worth an extra day of his time... and then said sure thing boss!

Are you saying your body doesn’t go through sensory habituation?

https://dictionary.apa.org/habituation

1. in general, the process of growing accustomed to a situation or stimulus.

2. the diminished effectiveness of a stimulus in eliciting a response, following repeated exposure to the stimulus.

[Edge-]

CSPAN callers are fun. Democrats comin to git us, veterans who think their service alone, not the Constitution, is why we have a right to vote (doubly so for veterans who were sent to Korea and Vietnam, neither of which posed a domestic threat in the slightest), something about God and something else.

I was half listening, but man are they working overtime to make 100% certain we know they're all a bunch of ignorant nutters.

[TigTone]

CSPAN callers are fun. Democrats comin to git us, veterans who think their service alone, not the Constitution, is why we have a right to vote (doubly so for veterans who were sent to Korea and Vietnam, neither of which posed a domestic threat in the slightest), something about God and something else.

I was half listening, but man are they working overtime to make 100% certain we know they're all a bunch of ignorant nutters.

And proud of it.

[Benggaul]

Just to put this to bed so we can all move on, I went ahead and messaged one of my Jewish friends to ask what was up. His response:

"If Schoen's an Orthodox Jew then it's either reflexive because he's used to wearing a yarmulke or he's doing it because the head must be covered while eating or drinking and him covering it with his hand is a concession made because he's not wearing one. In both cases he's a bad Orthodox Jew because he's lying."

*insert The More You Know graphic*

[beanman12345]

CSPAN callers are fun. Democrats comin to git us, veterans who think their service alone, not the Constitution, is why we have a right to vote (doubly so for veterans who were sent to Korea and Vietnam, neither of which posed a domestic threat in the slightest), something about God and something else.

I was half listening, but man are they working overtime to make 100% certain we know they're all a bunch of ignorant nutters.

I have to imagine being a CSPAN host is really unfulfilling, just sitting there when half the people calling in are just nut jobs, and you have to sit there like a robot.

[Breccia]

Sen. Butch Cassidy [R-Sundance] and...

(checks notes)

Sen. Bill Cassidy [R-LA] explains his decision to vote that the trial is Constitutional and should proceed.

I said I'd be an impartial juror

No you're not.

Anyone listening to those arguments, the House managers were focused. They were organized. They relied upon both precedent, the constitution and legal scholars. They made a compelling reason. President Trump's team were disorganized.

They did everything they could but to talk about the question at hand. And when they talked about it, they kind of glided over it, almost as if they were embarrassed of their arguments. Now I'm an impartial juror, and one side is doing a great job. And the other side is doing a terrible job on the issue at hand. As an impartial juror, I'm going to vote for the side that did the good job

Hmm. Three "I'm an impartial juror" in thirty seconds. Well, time to dust off this one:

I'm not a Trump supporter, but isn't Trump just the best at literally everything and his dick tastes like Bud Light

Okay, while to be fair to someone who will vote to acquit, Cassidy did continue that Trump's lawyers were so all over the place, at one point Cassidy asked Cruz if Trump's lawyers knew the question at hand.

"What did Cruz say?"

Not now.

"But it's important!"

Cruz said "Not now". As in, "leave me alone, I want to hear this unrelated nonsense".

Well, Cassidy made a clear and (cough) "impartial" case based on the merits as discussed. I'm sure he'll at least--

LA GOP votes to rebuke Cassidy for his vote.

Ah. We can't have anyone using objective facts and evidence in the Republican Party, I see. It's all about the Trump cult.

Well you know the rules. All resident Trump supporters, you have 24 hours to speak to the matter of Cassidy's Republican Party rebuking him for his vote. Failure to do so means you agree with the party.

I am sorry

Are you sure about that?

Your opinions on the matter are specifically and directly being called for. Comment on the Republican Party (of his own state) rebuking Cassidy for siding with the party that made their case, over the one which did not.

[dextersmith]

If, for example, Deutsche Bank comes to reclaim the loan and Trump declares bankruptcy, the courts will decide who gets what share of Trump's owned businesses. If he tries to defraud a bank, Deutsche Bank will bring him up on charges, and still get their money from his family and businesses. People who give out loans aren't typically forgiving sorts that will say "Well, I guess we don't get that billion back, womp-womp" and shrug. They say "you owe us that billion, and if necessary, we'll get it from your grandchildren, now open wide we're going for those fillings".

How can they nail his family if they didn't co-sign though?

[Edge-]

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-...fective-2021-2

Well, the critic reviews are in.

The first movie, Castor, ran way, way too long and had entirely too much pointless dialogue in what can only be seen as an attempt to cover up the fact that there was no plot. It seems as if the shooting began before the script was even finished, as evidenced by the handwritten notes making up the script. Casting and especially costume were extremely lacking, and the absence of special or practical effects really made the whole thing land with a "thud". It appears Senators were too confused and bored to actually have a reaction, so by default this gets a half a thumb down.

The second movie, Schoen, was much better. We can argue over the accuracy of the dialogue, but there's no ignoring that it was emotional and seemingly compelling. In using visual aids to highlight plot points it helped show, not just tell, viewers what the narrative of the movie was supposed to be. While it wasn't without its oddities and quirks, it at least commanded attention and felt like there was a script in-place before they started shooting. This receives a standing ovation from the Senate.

The MMOC Impeachment Film Review will return with more reviews following the next screening.

[Edge-]

Which is hilarious since he compromised by not wearing a head covering and won’t be observing Shabbat due to Trump’s wishes.

It's hard to completely avoid religious talk but like...maybe your convictions in something aren't as strong as you claim if you're willing to compromise them at the request of a known corrupt grifter.

[Benggaul]

95,542 new cases, about 21k fewer than last Tuesday.

Top 5:

Texas: 13,262 new cases; 303 deaths
California: 11,068 new cases; 520 deaths
New York: 8,319 new cases; 172 deaths
Fuck Florida.
Arizona: 4,381 new cases; 231 deaths

We're under 100k for the third day straight (and late numbers from Nebraska and such shouldn't change that) which is a good sign. The rate of decrease over last week was halved today which is less great, but it's still heading in the right direction and there's still room for it to go up over the next few days. Tuesdays are often slightly off thanks to corrections from Sundays and Mondays. The spike from Arizona is a tad worrying as it's double what they posted last Tuesday, but it might be a fluke/correction. We'll see what the next few days bring. Thanks to maskless dipshits in Florida on Sunday there will likely be mini-outbreaks around the country as they bring it to their home states.

3,265 deaths is about 450 fewer than last Tuesday and brings the total to 479,772. We still have 36 states reporting at least double digits and seven states with triple digits, but those are steadily coming down as expected as the new case count falls. California and Texas numbers in particular will likely remain grim for a while.

Related news:

Delta CEO blasts Biden proposal to require Covid tests for domestic travelers--*makes mental note never to fly Doesn't Even Leave The Airport*

Biden administration to begin shipping Covid vaccine doses to community health centers--Oh snap, is that Biden delivering on his campaign promise to get vaccines out to those poor areas that otherwise would have had trouble obtaining them? Man, competency in leadership feels so alien after the TRUMP SHITSHOW.

Stay safe, folks.

[D Luniz]

All the cameras were witnesses too. Along with the microphones...

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Here's a quick clip of the guy holding his "hair" in place as he drinks...

https://twitter.com/HimymCraig/statu...50147704639490

been removed, you got another?

[Breccia]

How can they nail his family if they didn't co-sign though?

Not directly, that's true. But they can take Trump's stake in any properties he partially owns. That's a plurality at least, possibly a majority in some cases. Since NY AGs and banks probably don't actually want the stock, they'ld likely sell...and Trump's family won't be able to afford it, and Trump can't because in his hypothetical he's bankrupt and broke. This would probalby lead to Trump's properties being taken from him, his name scrubbed from them, and his family fired.

[D Luniz]

I have to imagine being a CSPAN host is really unfulfilling, just sitting there when half the people calling in are just nut jobs, and you have to sit there like a robot.

I think John Oliver uses a montage of CSPAN crazy calls as a 1min filler every few eps on Last Week Tonight

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How can they nail his family if they didn't co-sign though?

what money does any of his blood related family have that isn't just a glorified allowance he gives them.

[Breccia]

With the second impeachment itself surviving the vote, when the Republican Party deciines to convict they will be saying Trump's actions are allowable.

Not that we need more evidence, but when that happens, all Trump supporters are immediately branded as supporters of murderous insurrection. Since that's what their party is defending.

They're free to specifically condemn it, but, um, have they?

[Xeones]

With the second impeachment itself surviving the vote, when the Republican Party deciines to convict they will be saying Trump's actions are allowable.

Not that we need more evidence, but when that happens, all Trump supporters are immediately branded as supporters of murderous insurrection. Since that's what their party is defending.

They're free to specifically condemn it, but, um, have they?

And it's going to be wild, because the only defense Trump has is either admitting he did it but it was justified because "fraud" or that it's unconstitutional which is just so laughably stupid even republicans had to admit his defense was trash.

[Breccia]

he did it but it was justified because "fraud" or that it's unconstitutional

"I am here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of gum".

So, yeah, the GOP is about to publicly declare that instigating a murderous insurrection is completely okay. Meanwhile the GOP is already trying to impeach Biden for...um...rooting for the Eagles, I guess.

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So expect more of this.

EPA scientists come out from hiding to say Trump overruled environmental protections to appease corporate backers.

Issuing documents, like the PFBS Toxicity Assessment, that include conclusions purporting to reflect science when in fact they are the product of biased political interference undermines the agency’s scientific integrity policy

"Why didn't they speak up before?"

Well some of them probably did, but, if they had Trump would have just fired them.

[Masark]

Hmm. Three "I'm an impartial juror" in thirty seconds. Well, time to dust off this one:

I'm not a Trump supporter, but isn't Trump just the best at literally everything and his dick tastes like Bud Light

Are you sure that last one isn't true?

[Shadowferal]

$15/hr full-time would be $30,000 -- before taxes, of course.

For a single person, that's about double the poverty level. and about half the average US income level.

Umm..the "Biden/Harris thread" is over there...somewhere.