Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

This springs to mind.

Don Hertzfeldt is truly a gem. And a multiple Academy Award nominee for his short animated films!

I know this because I am a consumer whore.

(And how!)

[Poopymonster]

Nope, they better keep his gravesite private, because I am sure some people will gladly come and piss on it for him radicalizing their parents.

Nah. Go visit it, take flowers or some shit. Salt the grave thoroughly. If you're feeling froggy, make a design.

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Don Hertzfeldt is truly a gem. And a multiple Academy Award nominee for his short animated films!

I know this because I am a consumer whore.

(And how!)

I love his work. Rejected is my favorite.
Now with more sodium
(Sweet Jesus!)

[Benggaul]

Testing still appears to be down, but I'll go ahead with the full report anyway:

71,054 new cases, about 28k fewer than 2 weeks ago. I'm skipping last week as a frame of reference for obvious reasons. This number will go up as a handful of late reports come in.

Top 5:

Texas: 10,075 new cases; 258 deaths
New York: 6,841 new cases; 125 deaths
California: 6,376 new cases; 315 deaths
Fuck Florida.
Georgia: 3,780 new cases; 92 deaths

Texas is the only state above 10k cases today and it's unclear if this is because of corrections or because it's really that bad there. They still aren't testing at a normal level so it's possible that number is even higher. It's also pretty evident that, while new cases are decreasing, they're decreasing more slowly than they have been compared to weeks past. We're still shedding about 10k cases on average every week but 70k is still double the low after the last wave. Testing should increase again as states dig themselves out of the storm, but the US as a whole has been woefully inadequate in the testing department for the entire pandemic (California and New York being exceptions).

2,404 deaths is around 800 fewer than two weeks ago and brings the total to 514,996. A drop of 400 a week is about on par with what we were seeing in the weeks prior to the storm and it's great to see that trend continue. California is still topping that grim chart but given how quickly they've brought their case numbers down in the past month those numbers should be falling dramatically soon as well.

Related news:

Covid Death Outlook Improves as Drop in U.S. Exceeds Forecasts--I'm going to assume the experts have taken the faulty data of the past week or so into account and not that, like Stanley Tucci in "The Core", they've made a trivially stupid math error that's going to doom us all. This is some decent news.

Almost a third of people with 'mild' Covid-19 still battle symptoms months later, study finds--Annnnd crashing back to reality. The long-term effects of the virus are going to be with us for a long, long time.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

Fuck Florida.

Remember when this was a joke? (sighs)

Who gets vaccinated next? Florida’s the only state that doesn’t tell you.

Florida is the only state that hasn’t told its residents who will get shots next, when more doses are available, according to an analysis of state rollouts by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit focused on national health issues. Instead, Gov. Ron DeSantis has been laser-focused on vaccinating seniors, telling other groups to wait their turn.

Link to study.

“Most states are providing information,” said Jen Kates, Kaiser’s vice president. “Maybe they haven’t put it out for all phases, but at least for the next phase coming up. All but one state, and that’s Florida.”

The lack of clear messaging has left millions of essential workers confused about when they might have access to vaccines. Neither they nor other groups recommended as key for vaccination by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — like those younger than 65 who are medically vulnerable — have been told when their time will come.

The US has (during Trump's time at least) handled COVID arguably the worst of the first-world countries. Well, it's starting to look like Flordai:US::US:World.

[Benggaul]

Remember when this was a joke? (sighs)

Who was joking?

[Kaleredar]

Don Hertzfeldt is truly a gem. And a multiple Academy Award nominee for his short animated films!

I know this because I am a consumer whore.

(And how!)

Indeed. Just check the sig.

Remember when this was a joke? (sighs)

Who gets vaccinated next? Florida’s the only state that doesn’t tell you.



Link to study.



The US has (during Trump's time at least) handled COVID arguably the worst of the first-world countries. Well, it's starting to look like Flordai:US::US:World.

Perhaps DeSantis saw how alienating seniors by going with Trump's strategy of "if you die, you die" put Florida's swing state-status uncomfortably more blue than he'd like and he's trying to re-cinch up that demographic.

Because at this rate if calling Joe Biden a puppet of Bernie and AOC ever stops working, Florida is sunk for the GOP.

[Xarkan]

This springs to mind.

How.. christmassy?

[YUPPIE]

donald trump has proven he (or anyone similar really) can get away with anything with money and power.

these criminal allegations won't go anywhere in a world that increasingly advocates murder and intimidation as optimal solutions to your problems.

[zealo]

donald trump has proven he (or anyone similar really) can get away with anything with money and power.

these criminal allegations won't go anywhere in a world that increasingly advocates murder and intimidation as optimal solutions to your problems.

All he's proven is that Senate republicans are bootlickers that lack the spine to do the right thing.

He's not quite out of the woods yet when he gets put in an actual criminal court, instead of what's ostensibly a political process in the senate.

[postman1782]

donald trump has proven he (or anyone similar really) can get away with anything with money and power.

these criminal allegations won't go anywhere in a world that increasingly advocates murder and intimidation as optimal solutions to your problems.

He can't stave off the current investigations anymore. He has no DoJ memo defending him from investigations from New York, and now the new administration. I guarantee Merrick Garland will be investigating him.

[YUPPIE]

He can't stave off the current investigations anymore. He has no DoJ memo defending him from investigations from New York, and now the new administration. I guarantee Merrick Garland will be investigating him.

well like a lot of people say, Donald Trump is not only a politician but a criminal mastermind with alleged neo-nazi power bases. And considering how the cartels or major underworld organizations can get away with so much, who is to say Trump can't? He's arguably more terrifying in the way he has weaved his way into political power ala Pablo Escobar.

In the real world, you can't do much to such a person/people for all the posturing. Most people stop at the first signs of intimidation tactics.

[postman1782]

well like a lot of people say, Donald Trump is not only a politician but a criminal mastermind with alleged neo-nazi power bases. And considering how the cartels or major underworld organizations can get away with so much, who is to say Trump can't? He's arguably more terrifying in the way he has weaved his way into political power ala Pablo Escobar.

In the real world, you can't do much to such a person/people for all the posturing. Most people stop at the first signs of intimidation tactics.

Yeah, don't think anyone is scared of that fat orange moron.

[gondrin]

well like a lot of people say, Donald Trump is not only a politician but a criminal mastermind with alleged neo-nazi power bases. And considering how the cartels or major underworld organizations can get away with so much, who is to say Trump can't? He's arguably more terrifying in the way he has weaved his way into political power ala Pablo Escobar.

In the real world, you can't do much to such a person/people for all the posturing. Most people stop at the first signs of intimidation tactics.

Well, we do have a real life example of this not being true. Remember Al Capone? The IRS sure did and got him when the FBI couldn't. Same will happen with Trump. One thing that I've learned over time is that you can get away with murder but you screw over the IRS(or any taxation authority), you're ass is going to jail. Think of this, the IRS doesn't give a damn if you got your money from getting paid from selling drugs, killing someone or any other major crime. All they want is their cut of it. And the thing is, multiple mob bosses have gone to jail over the years for the same thing. Not from ordering hits against anyone, not from selling drugs or robbing people. They all went to prison for tax evasion.

Remember kids, report ALL income to the IRS no matter where it comes from.

[rayvio]

well like a lot of people say, Donald Trump is not only a politician but a criminal mastermind

the only people who think he's any kind of a mastermind refuse to admit that he's a criminal

[Mekh]

Without going into too much detail, I am friends with a gay couple who want to fuck on it out of spite. HIGHLY doubt they go through with it because it's really out of character for at least one of them, but I get the impression it's a prevailing thought in their local circle of friends.

To quote a tweet I saw the other day: "If Rush Limbaugh hated unisex toilets so much, why is his gravesite going to be one?"

[Bodakane]

well like a lot of people say, Donald Trump is not only a politician but a criminal mastermind with alleged neo-nazi power bases. And considering how the cartels or major underworld organizations can get away with so much, who is to say Trump can't? He's arguably more terrifying in the way he has weaved his way into political power ala Pablo Escobar.

In the real world, you can't do much to such a person/people for all the posturing. Most people stop at the first signs of intimidation tactics.

What does the state of NY know about going after mobsters......

[Machismo]

well like a lot of people say, Donald Trump is not only a politician but a criminal mastermind with alleged neo-nazi power bases. And considering how the cartels or major underworld organizations can get away with so much, who is to say Trump can't? He's arguably more terrifying in the way he has weaved his way into political power ala Pablo Escobar.

In the real world, you can't do much to such a person/people for all the posturing. Most people stop at the first signs of intimidation tactics.

Why do you support all of that?

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donald trump has proven he (or anyone similar really) can get away with anything with money and power.

these criminal allegations won't go anywhere in a world that increasingly advocates murder and intimidation as optimal solutions to your problems.

Which is why I find it so ironic that you supported all of that corruption.

[solinari6]

Remember kids, report ALL income to the IRS no matter where it comes from.

Yeah, but don't tax crimes still need a jury trial? You are never going to get a jury without at least a couple Trump cultists in it. And they will never vote to convict.

[Breccia]

Yeah, but don't tax crimes still need a jury trial? You are never going to get a jury without at least a couple Trump cultists in it. And they will never vote to convict.

Jurors can be thrown out after trial starts if it's clear they are not impartial.

Obviously this is rarely done and difficult to apply, but if the jury foreman basically has proof that one/two jurors are just refusing all evidence, logic, and reason, then that juror cannot serve impartially.

I'm sure @cubby knows more about this, all I have is "this can happen".

[solinari6]

Jurors can be thrown out after trial starts if it's clear they are not impartial.

Obviously this is rarely done and difficult to apply, but if the jury foreman basically has proof that one/two jurors are just refusing all evidence, logic, and reason, then that juror cannot serve impartially.

I'm sure @cubby knows more about this, all I have is "this can happen".

I mean, maybe ... but I think the optics of having to throw out multiple trump supporting jurists, in order to get a conviction will be REALLY bad. I mean, trump and his followers think he's getting railroaded NOW. If that happens, they will never shut up about it.