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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Listening to my landlord, right the fuck now, telling me all the reasons why the mask rule isn't "logical" and how he'll never get vaccinated, how all the doctor's he listens to have their anecdotal "evidence" as to why the vaccine won't work, why preventative measures keep you from getting COVID, and how "he isn't afraid" of the virus.
    This sort of nonsense just enrages me.

    1) Why not just wear the god damn mask? Even if you don't think it works...it might. And even if it's a 1% chance it'll help JUST WEAR THE FUCKING MASK. This whole anti-mask nonsense is the worst kind of stupid because it's taking a stupid stand against something that, at worst, is an incredibly minor annoyance. Unless you are one of the 0.00000000000001% of people who legitimately can't wear a mask for medical reasons.

    2) Why are you so chicken shit afraid of a shot? At this point millions upon millions of people have received it and how many people have died from the vaccine? Hmmm? Just take your damn shot and shut the hell up.

    He says preventative measure work fine...but is against the top two -- masks and vaccines. What a stupid stupid man. And unfortunately it seems that he's unlikely at this point to get it and learn a lesson about hubris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    This sort of nonsense just enrages me.

    1) Why not just wear the god damn mask? Even if you don't think it works...it might. And even if it's a 1% chance it'll help JUST WEAR THE FUCKING MASK. This whole anti-mask nonsense is the worst kind of stupid because it's taking a stupid stand against something that, at worst, is an incredibly minor annoyance. Unless you are one of the 0.00000000000001% of people who legitimately can't wear a mask for medical reasons.

    2) Why are you so chicken shit afraid of a shot? At this point millions upon millions of people have received it and how many people have died from the vaccine? Hmmm? Just take your damn shot and shut the hell up.

    He says preventative measure work fine...but is against the top two -- masks and vaccines. What a stupid stupid man. And unfortunately it seems that he's unlikely at this point to get it and learn a lesson about hubris.
    I felt the same way, doubly enraged because I couldn't argue back the way I would have liked to (he's my landlord, so not going to piss him off). These people are beyond reason - they view the world a certain way and look for "evidence" to literally confirm their echo chamber.

    There is literally no way to get these people to change their minds. With the litany of neo-con-fuckwit grifters out there peddling information for ad clicks to fill their bank accounts, anyone who wants to can find their "evidence".

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    There is literally no way to get these people to change their minds.
    There is, but it's ethically questionable. Manipulate them by playing into/preying on their own conspiracies and stupidity. All depends on if you think ends justify means or not : P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Tell him to ask his grandmother how fucking fun Polio was and why he didn't get it.
    The Trumpkins/fuckwits have an answer to everything - they are literally beyond reasonable conversation about facts and evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    There is, but it's ethically questionable. Manipulate them by playing into/preying on their own conspiracies and stupidity. All depends on if you think ends justify means or not : P
    I hear you, and I would love to do that sometime, but I need this guy on my "friends" list IRL, because he's both my landlord and someone I'm going to use later on when I become I rental property owner.

    But yeah - fighting conspiracies with conspiracies is a possible path to bringing these people out of their lunacy. Frankly, they're not worth my time. My focus is homeless kids.
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    https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1371199921500651521

    Can I just say how much I love Ted Cruz complaining about the military being "politicized" for...defending women serving in uniform from the sexist and misogynistic attacks of a bow-tie wearing dweeb who waxes poetic about how strong, masculine, and virile the Chinese military is.

    Who knew, "Stop the sexist attacks on service members." was a political stance. Glad to know Tucker and Cruz are on team, "Misogyny is my political position."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Sounds like a brutal experience. For the record, I am afraid of it, and all things it can do to a person. How did you come out of it? Ok overall or wait-and-see?

    I sometimes think that would be a good lesson, especially for some of those extremist grifters.


    .

    Lost a week of work for which I don't get paid

    over a month of side effects from diminished breathing and stamina to needing chest x-rays and steroids to prevent an infection from growing in my lungs.

    coughed continuously for close to a month after i got Covid to the point where the people downstairs were yelling "come on what the hell" at like 11pm one night.

    My asthma which used to be under major control to the point where i had almost 5 inhalers i did not open yet is much worse now. I am down to 1 inhaler from my backlog since i am using it way more then before covid.

    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post

    What's the list?

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    1. Trump
    2. Fake News
    3. Dementia / sleepy joe (related to Biden)
    4. Vaccination (cause its never positive)
    5. Liberals
    6. Immigrants/immigration
    7. Socialism
    8. Snowflake
    9. Woke/Cancel culture
    10. Free/Freedom of speech

    Most of these are on the list because i know the vast majority of people i work with just do not bother to actually educate themselves on the real meanings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Tell him to ask his grandmother how fucking fun Polio was and why he didn't get it.
    my father didn't want the vac at first then i reminded him about his childhood and polio.

    something clicked with him thankfully

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    The Trumpkins/fuckwits have an answer to everything - they are literally beyond reasonable conversation about facts and evidence.

    .
    few months ago i got into the round about....

    and someone came up behind us and said.

    "yo bro, didn't you spend last week doing blow.....but yo worried about the vaccine?"

    the dude looked so freaking dead inside after that it was amazing. Same dude smokes weed in the parking lot almost every night waiting for the trucks to arrive and in between truck schedule drops.

    Good old hill town employment.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    There is literally no way to get these people to change their minds.
    Unfortunately, that's not true.

    They could die because they didn't wear a mask. They'd change their mind...briefly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    They'd change their mind...briefly.
    Nurses seem to say otherwise.

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    You know what's been working to drive MagaHeads crazy?

    Calling the stimulus payments coming this week....


    Biden Bucks.


    the fucking whispers in game are tremendous.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    You know what's been working to drive MagaHeads crazy?
    If that’s the goal... just tell chat to tune in to CSPAN as soon as possible... Biden is holding a press conferences, declaring that America is great again... we did it!!!
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    https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electio...ction-results/

    A Superior Court judge in Maricopa County, Arizona on Monday ordered the Arizona Republican Party to pay more than $18,000 in attorneys’ fees which were incurred through the GOP’s lawsuits challenging the results of the 2020 election. The party filed a lawsuit against Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs (D) in November asking the court to perform a second hand-count audit of the county’s voting tabulations despite the fact that the initial hand-count audit showed no indication of any election irregularities or evidence of voter fraud.

    In a brutal 10-page ruling, Judge John Hannah excoriated the state GOP for filing a “groundless” claim that was “without substantial justification,” saying the “relief sought was not legally available from the parties that were sued at the time the suit was filed.”
    Man, imagine spending countless hours, countless amounts in your own attorneys fees, and then getting hit with another $18K bill on top of that all to try to virtue signal to a guy who lost a national election.

    This is like that time Republican star Chris Kobach literally got sent back to school for remedial law courses by a judge because his legal case was that awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    You know what's been working to drive MagaHeads crazy?

    Calling the stimulus payments coming this week....


    Biden Bucks.


    the fucking whispers in game are tremendous.
    Oh FUCK yes! Done and done.

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    Given that it's Monday and the numbers are going to be fucked anyway, I'll just do the quick report now rather than wait for the last few numbers to trickle in.

    45,045 new cases, roughly the same as last week's bullshit report. 785 deaths, also roughly the same. The total is now 548,013.

    Still recovering from what is almost certainly a really brutal attack of allergies/hayfever but in this timeline could also be impending doom, but I'll try to get my normal reports back up starting tomorrow if I can lift my arms without all of the muscles in my chest and shoulders screaming at me.

    Stay safe, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    So has Trump, what's left of him, really relegated himself to the position of greeter at Mar-a-lago or what? All I see are pics of the mess he's become, welcoming people.

    That and his hilariously impotent memos.
    The power of deplatforming in action. He can't reliably get his messages out anymore without Social Media, and I guess his speaking fees for Right Wing news spheres are too high for them to bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    That and his hilariously impotent memos.
    All the rabid fanbase has left is memes. I have some FB "friends" and family and...it's like, they've given up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    All the rabid fanbase has left is memes. I have some FB "friends" and family and...it's like, they've given up.
    Because all Trump could sell was an unjustified image of being a winner. That's why he holds (present) to the fraud narrative so hard he got in the edge of literal insurrection. I remember some years ago when he did a roast every subject was allowed but bankruptcies. Comedians could talk about whores about infidelity, about tax frauds, about dodging the draft,about the money he got from daddy....about everything but bankruptcies because it broke his winner narrative.

    It comes as no surprise this reverse Midas King that every-single-thing he touches turn to shit has put America into a near economical ,social and moral bankruptcy so now that the fact he is a LOSER is a virus slowly spreading into the fanbase there's nothing more to sell.

    Let's hope that virus has a high R0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    but I need this guy on my "friends" list IRL
    Yeah, welcome to the modern age of politics. You have to pick and choose your battles and who you fight them with. I've given up on any sort of attempts to correct my parents when it comes to political misinformation. They are too old and too ingrained in their views for it to be worth it or to even have any impact. I can, however, focus on the science stuff as my folks (thankfully) recognize my expertise in that area. So I was able to move them from "we'll never get vaccinated ever" to them getting their first shot a couple weeks ago.

    That fight was worth it. The rest? Nope. No reason to tear my family apart for no benefit to anyone.
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    “As a globally recognized #healthcare expert, we are fortunate to have Dr. Birx join our team,” said Joe Urso, CEO of #ActivePure Technologies. #infectionprevention #drbirx #deborahbirx #infectionprevention #ips #hais #leadership
    https://twitter.com/ActivePureMed/st...276419588?s=19

    As stated the Trump gaslighters are getting jobs. I'm sure a nice six figure job with benefits.

    Also Pence endorsed Sarah Huckabee for Governor of Arkansas. Although I have not seen anything she is running.

    Dr. Deborah Birx Opens Up About 'Extraordinarily Uncomfortable' Moment When Trump Proposed Injecting Disinfectant: 'I Still Think About it Every Day' https://t.co/TCaJ1QBGiP
    https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/...412728321?s=19

    This is hilarious. So she just joined a company and admits she folded or didn't speak up when needed. Good job on that hire Active Pure.
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    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    This is hilarious. So she just joined a company and admits she folded or didn't speak up when needed. Good job on that hire Active Pure.
    I can't really blame her. She tried to be diplomatic with someone because it might've got the job done and it utterly failed. She was very briefly lionized on right wing media and now everyone shits on her even though she has a long history as a capable infectious disease expert.

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    As much as I'd give Birx the hairy eyeball for putting her position before her career, it is the capitalist way to do such a thing. And she's now profiting from it.

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